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Rianna

03-30-2006, 11:14 PM

bathurst_guy

03-31-2006, 02:54 AM

blank website? Sorry I don't really understand your question (s?)

Yes, your probably better off learning HTML, CSS, JavaScript and PHP (In that order) before creating a website. Then, once you have learnt these skills, purchase Dreamweaver (NOT FRONTPAGE, never use it!) and build your sites with it - I (meaning me and myself, other people may have different opinions) believe that this is the best way to learn to be a web developer, as then if something isn't quite working the way you want in Dreamweaver, you will have the skills to switch to code view and modify it.

I hope this has answered your question, if not please reply with more explaination of your dilemma.

Rianna

03-31-2006, 03:06 AM

Thank you very much and I'm honored, I got the moderator no less. What I mean by a blank website is if I am going to have all this code I need a place to put it--aka a website. I didn't know how I could create a place to put it as the other guy suggested with notepad. Regarding dreamweaver thanks for the tip over front page but ouch it is out of my budget. Anyway around this problem such as super nice geeks who lets us download their free, donations asked, or inexpensive programs? Geeks doesn't give them credit, more like specially gifted computer geniuses because that is what they are. Let me know please and thanks a lot for the help. Rianna

bathurst_guy

03-31-2006, 03:17 AM

Yes, if you don't like using notepad there are similar FREE programs out there that colour code your tags aswell, which makes debugging that much easier.

I'll just dig up some links to previous posts on them...

http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89134
http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76969
http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75149
http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70455
http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71673
http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68740
http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66469
http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59786
http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59394

Rianna

03-31-2006, 03:24 AM

Great scott, thanks for the links. Colorcode your tags? Will you please translate that for a newbie coder like me? Thanks a lot! Rianna

bathurst_guy

03-31-2006, 03:30 AM

So rather than it looking like this:<html>
<head>
<title>title</title>
<script type="text/javascript">
stuff
</script>
</head>
<body>
<h1>heading</h1>
<p>paragraph</p>
</body>
</html>it looks like this<html>
<head>
<title>title</title>
<script type="text/javascript">
stuff
</script>
</head>
<body>
<h1>heading</h1>
<p>paragraph</p>
</body>
</html>

Rianna

03-31-2006, 03:42 AM

Hmmm. Is that so that when it shows on the web page some of the text will be in different fonts and font colors? Or am I missing something...................................

TiGGi

03-31-2006, 09:59 AM

notepad is just plain text editor. You'll have hard time widh it if you dont know you HTML so I recomend using real html editor like Dreamweaver. I am sure some of these guys know of decent free html editor also!

Rianna

03-31-2006, 07:20 PM

Heya Bathurst Mr. super moderator guy, if you run into any directions on how to upload webpages from notepad or other inexpensive code editors to the host, please throw em my way. Thank you very much for your help and thank you Tiggi. Rianna

bathurst_guy

03-31-2006, 08:14 PM

You will have to use another program to do the uploading. An ftp client. I use coreFTP (http://www.coreftp.com).

Nedals

03-31-2006, 08:19 PM

.... if you run into any directions on how to upload webpages from notepad or other inexpensive code editors to the hostYou don't actually upload from notepad. You create a page with a '.htm' or '.html' suffix, the latter being prefered.

Your 'host' will likely provide you with an 'FTP' program (file transfer) that you will then use to upload the .html page to the server. If your host does not provide one there are many you can download for free. (ws_ftp95 or a later version)

Talith

03-31-2006, 08:37 PM

Hello, someone told me elsewhere on this forum that in order to have a good website I can do the code myself without having to purchase front page and dreamweaver but by using notepad instead.

If this is true, where do I find the blank websites that will accept all these different kinds of code, like html, java script, and php? Just want to make sure I am not being steered wrong.

Let me know please, thanks very much for your help. Rianna
Hey Rianna,

If I understand your question right, then the blank website is actually provided by your browser ( IE or whatever you use). Using notepad (not a very good way to go, I personally use Crimson editor right now it's a free download at www.crimsoneditor.com and it's basically a text editor that color codes the tags for various languages like XHTML, CSS, Javascript, etc.) you write out your webpage using your language of choice, and the browser interprets what you wrote and diplays it in a web page. You don't actually have to go out and buy a "blank" web page.

Maxdad

03-31-2006, 10:25 PM

Hey Rianna,
I personally use TSW's WebCoder 5. It is a free program. and it has all of the attributes that you are looking for. Go to www.tsware.net and download the program for free. I find it better than frontpage in which you build the web page by code. It has CSS, PHP, Javascript, HTML and much more. You can even view the page while you are working on it...I find it much cleaner as you control the the script..

Rianna

03-31-2006, 11:54 PM

I can't thank you all enough. It looks like you all have your own way of doing things. I am logging them all. Rianna

Rianna

04-01-2006, 04:40 AM

Great leads. I also have downloaded Bluevoda and working on Mambo and they are free and allow codes and help you build the web pages. Any others like this, allow several codes, help build the pages, are inexpensive or free, please send my way, these types may be what I need! Thanks a lot. Rianna

nitrexoxide

04-01-2006, 04:57 AM

Hi.
My opionion is this:

Download a Dreamweaver free lookalike (of dreamweaver trial)

Get a hosting account, (you are a newbie no offence) so I recomend getting a free one. (there is no shame in this- I use one!)
for this I reccomend www.awardspace.com
This host has everything!
It has a file manager, FTP support, PHP and Database support and a graphical interface. AND IT HAS NO ADS!!

i.e. It has all the basic stuff a newbie would want, but with loads of advanced features. You can host all your simple web pages off it fine. But I have a forum on it and are soon to have a domain name!

Rianna

04-01-2006, 03:28 PM

Thanks for the lead. I admit it, I'm a newbie but a free account won't do. The only thing I have is a free account now through MSN but this is the first time with a real website. I know that I need to be able to use several codes on my pages though after trying to use many codes on my free website and not being able to use them. It was very limited and I don't want these pages to be limited. I'll check it out! Rianna

pottersdt2k

04-05-2006, 05:36 PM

I find it's always best to do a search through google for the type of hosting I want, and at the moment whilst my design skills are pretty poor, I'm always looking for free accounts...
So if (like my last search) I wanted one with PHP and MySQL hosting, I just searched for "Free hosting"+php+mysql....

Word of warning though, if you want a php forum for example, make sure it has php and and mySQL mentioned when you're signing up - it's always worth planning in advance what it is you actually want. I made the mistake of signing up to a host that had PHP, but not MySQL... I think actually that that was Tripod (or Lycos), but can't be certain...