How to broadcast/streaming using Windows Media 9 Service over the internet [Archive]

xdefconx

04-19-2006, 04:18 AM

Dear everyone,

I would like to ask how to broadcast/streaming using Windows Media 9
Service over the internet . I'm running on Windows 2003 Server box +
IIS 6.0 Services + Windows Media 9 Service. I'm host my web site on my
own server mean i'm using static IP. Ok right now i would like to try
broadcast/streaming video content over the internet using Windows Media
9 Service. I already add role on my box for Windows Media 9 Service &
also try to stream/broadcast with ***.wmv video file. Everything is
working fine n smooth over the LAN to stream/broadcast that content
however i failed to stream over the internet. Is that anyone know which
web site have a tutorial step by step to make this done?

My question about this problem:

1-Let's say my IP from my ISP is 202.203.95.45 so i have to put this
url --> mms://202.203.95.45/video_folder on my web syntax? I already
try it but failed. Is that i miss a step?

2-How to manage subdomain that will point automatically to
mms://202.203.95.45/video_folder??

Thanxs.

Denn

04-19-2006, 12:02 PM

First of all, use mms://202.203.95.45:8080/
Second: You need to have your broadcast in Microsoft Media Encoder. (which is free) This will allow you to let the stream be pulled from the encoder on port 8080. If you need more details let me know. I stream my TV Stations Channel over the internet. Its wkfk.com. You can click on the link from the first page. There are a couple of ways to do this. The way I do it is to embed Microsoft Media player into the html.

jiamin

04-27-2006, 09:39 AM

I am also putting up video files on my webpage.
May I know how do I upload wmv file as "mms://70.70.229.313:8080/"?
Do I have to use a new subdomain?

Denn

04-27-2006, 09:26 PM

I am also putting up video files on my webpage.
May I know how do I upload wmv file as "mms://70.70.229.313:8080/"?
Do I have to use a new subdomain?

1 -Use the MS Media Encoder to change any avi or mpeg files to wmv files. This will make them MUCH smaller without any visible loss of quality.

2 - Create a subfolder on your website to keep an .htm file for each video.

3 - Use the example I'm posting below for your .htm video files.

4 - You won't need to use the mms://70.70.229.313:8080/. Instead, you will use the htm files you will create for each .wmv video.

5 - Have a page with links for your videos. The link will be to the .htm files you will create from the example below.

6 - Notice the line in blue in the example. This is where you will place the embeded video on your .htm page and adjust it's size. (start out by leaving it as I have it and once you get it to work, then you can play around with moving it and changing it's size.

7 - The values in red are the only thing you'll need to change.

8 - (a) Cut and paste everything below the word EXAMPLE:
(b) Name it Video1.htm
(c) Put Name1.wmv inside the sub folder and point your link to the name of the .htm page. The .htm page will pull up the video inside the embeded media player.

9 - Let me know if you need any more help.

EXAMPLE:

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>The Name Of Your Video</title>
</head>

<body>

<body>

<OBJECT id="VIDEO"
style="position:absolute; left:19;top:19;width:480px; height:360px"
CLASSID="CLSID:6BF52A52-394A-11d3-B153-00C04F79FAA6"
type="application/x-oleobject">

<PARAM NAME="URL" VALUE="http://yourdomain.com/a sub folder/NameOfVideo.wmv" ref>
<PARAM NAME="AutoStart" VALUE="-1">
<PARAM name="uiMode" value="mini">
<PARAM name="PlayCount" value="1">
<param name="rate" value="1">
<param name="balance" value="0">
<param name="currentPosition" value="0">
<param name="defaultFrame" value>
<param name="currentMarker" value="0">
<param name="invokeURLs" value="-1">
<param name="baseURL" value>
<param name="volume" value="80">
<param name="mute" value="0">
<param name="stretchToFit" value="1">
<param name="windowlessVideo" value="0">
<param name="enabled" value="-1">
<param name="enableContextMenu" value="-1">
<param name="fullScreen" value="0">
<param name="SAMIStyle" value>
<param name="SAMILang" value>
<param name="SAMIFilename" value>
<param name="captioningID" value>
<param name="enableErrorDialogs" value="0">
</OBJECT>

<table border="0" id="table1">
<tr>
<td><img border="0" src="Ads/Spacer.jpg" width="493" height="5"></td>

</tr>
</table>

</body>

</html>

jiamin

04-27-2006, 09:50 PM

Denn,
Thank you so much for your detailed explanation.
As some of the wmv files that I am putting up on my site are big (more than 10MB), the buffering/downloading time is long. I thought of streaming it using "mms://". Would appreciate if you could explain on how I could do so.

Denn

04-27-2006, 10:12 PM

Denn,
Thank you so much for your detailed explanation.
As some of the wmv files that I am putting up on my site are big (more than 10MB), the buffering/downloading time is long. I thought of streaming it using "mms://". Would appreciate if you could explain on how I could do so.
jiamin,

I'll be glad to answer this tomorrow. It's late and I must get my beauty sleep. I'll go into it like I did with the explanation of embeding video files.

Denn...

Denn

04-28-2006, 09:18 PM

Denn,
Thank you so much for your detailed explanation.
As some of the wmv files that I am putting up on my site are big (more than 10MB), the buffering/downloading time is long. I thought of streaming it using "mms://". Would appreciate if you could explain on how I could do so.

To steam a video you with “Windows Media Encoder” follow these instructions:

– Open up WME then click on “Properties”.
– Click on the tab “Sources”
– Beside “Source from” click file.
– Beside “file name” browse to the file you wish to stream. (your video file)
– Tick both Video and Audio

Click “Output” tab and check/tick the box “pull from encoder. The Port number is usually 8080

Under the “Compression” tab
- Destination: Windows Media server (streaming)
- Video: Multiple bit rates video (CBR)
- Audio: Multiple bit rates audio (CBR)
- Bit rates: (The higher the bit rate the better it will look and the slower it will go) Your choice. I use 548 kbps at the TV station where I work.

You will need to have a static IP for your computer. Give out the URL as mms:// the static IP address with :8080/ at the end of the address. This tells the person who is entering it to go to that address and pull from port 8080.

You can also have a link using the address so that anyone clicking on the link will not have to put in the address.

And of course, by using the mms:// in front of the IP address, it will automatically open the users Windows media player, that is, unless you want to embed the media player in an html page.

It’s not anymore complicated than that. Just remember that bandwidth plays an important roll on both ends. Even if you’re streaming, it will still stop and buffer if there is not enough bandwidth.

jiamin

04-29-2006, 03:30 AM

Hi Denn,
Thank you so much for your time and effort in providing a step by step instructions.
A salute to you. Cheers.

With appreciation,
Jia Min

Denn

04-29-2006, 10:08 AM

Hi Denn,
Thank you so much for your time and effort in providing a step by step instructions.
A salute to you. Cheers.

With appreciation,
Jia Min
You're most welcome Jia Min. I hope it helped.

jiamin

04-29-2006, 10:48 AM

Hi Denn,
It definitely helps.
After taking the steps as given by you, the "wmv" file type changed to "wme". May I know if "wme" is the one to use?
So sad, I have just realised that the server that I host my site "do not support streaming media (aka the MMS protocol) "
When asked if the company consider to provide support to streaming media, the reply was
"Unfortunately as there are thousands of users on our servers this will not be possible as the load of the machines will be very high because of this activity."

Look like I have to look for another host that provide such a support even though I have been very satisfied with the current one and the contract only expires in Oct 2006.

Denn

04-29-2006, 11:07 AM

Hi Denn,
It definitely helps.
After taking the steps as given by you, the "wmv" file type changed to "wme". May I know if "wme" is the one to use?
So sad, I have just realised that the server that I host my site "do not support streaming media (aka the MMS protocol) "
When asked if the company consider to provide support to streaming media, the reply was
"Unfortunately as there are thousands of users on our servers this will not be possible as the load of the machines will be very high because of this activity."

Look like I have to look for another host that provide such a support even though I have been very satisfied with the current one and the contract only expires in Oct 2006.
I have no idea why it changed the file name. The "wmv" stands for Windows Media Video, and the "wme" stands for Windows Media Encoder... I do believe. As for now, I see that your only choice is to embed windows media as I showed above, and let people load the file to their computer rather than streaming it. Apparently, your host doesn't want to spend a little more money for bandwidth. I load two shows on our server at the TV station every day (wkfk.com). One is community calendar, which I create, and the other is the local weather. I have fast access (high speed cable) at home, and it takes about 20 seconds to load either file. Both are usually 5 to 6 meg each, so that seems reasonable. A 10 meg file, as you mentioned earlier, should not take more than a minute to load for someone who has fast access. For those who don’t have fast access, they need to get it if they are serious about the internet because there is going to be more and more for people to download in the future. Having slow access to the internet is like having a black and white TV, or someone still using records rather than CDs. The only thing that slow access is good for is if you’re doing nothing but text e-mail.

Good Luck
Denn…

jiamin

04-29-2006, 05:22 PM

Hi Denn,
Thanks once again for your kind advice.
Nice and informative site you have created.
Best regards,
Jiamin

Wench

06-10-2007, 07:04 PM

omg, help!!

Denn are you here?
http://cvma-pa.net/Backup%20folders/A6-9-07.html

What did I do wrong here?
What a mess.

Can you help me , please,,,, pretty please??

mrbowling300

08-30-2007, 11:26 PM

Hello there,
I'm attempting to do a live streaming broadcast using WME. It works fine, i'm able to load the video/audio. This is my html link w/ the embedded player: http://www.mrbowling300.com/tvbowling.htm

I have a great video/audio capture device (conopus). When it's encoding, and streaming, and I go to the above url on the same computer, it works fine. I'm able to see the video and hear the audio. When I have friends load the same link while i'm streaming, nothing comes up on their screen. The player says connecting to media for about 15 seconds, then eventually goes back to ready.

At this point, I don't know why it's not working. Is there simply not enough bandwidth to accomplish what I want to do?

Any help or suggestions at all would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!

mrbowling

Denn

09-01-2007, 10:03 AM

omg, help!!

Denn are you here?
http://cvma-pa.net/Backup%20folders/A6-9-07.html

What did I do wrong here?
What a mess.

Can you help me , please,,,, pretty please??

Wench,
Do you have Microsoft Frontpage? If not, you need to get it and then use it to create a table with two cells. Put the video in one cell and your writing in the other. This will separate the two and you won't have the overlap.

Denn

Denn

09-01-2007, 10:22 AM

Hello there,
I'm attempting to do a live streaming broadcast using WME. It works fine, i'm able to load the video/audio. This is my html link w/ the embedded player: http://www.mrbowling300.com/tvbowling.htm

I have a great video/audio capture device (conopus). When it's encoding, and streaming, and I go to the above url on the same computer, it works fine. I'm able to see the video and hear the audio. When I have friends load the same link while i'm streaming, nothing comes up on their screen. The player says connecting to media for about 15 seconds, then eventually goes back to ready.

At this point, I don't know why it's not working. Is there simply not enough bandwidth to accomplish what I want to do?

Any help or suggestions at all would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!

mrbowling

Mr. Bowling,

It could be several things and not knowing your skill levels I need to ask a few questions.

Have you uploaded the video to the internet and are you pointing to the video? Also, the way I use a path is like this...

http://wkfk.tv/Commercials/Angies-0441-01.wmv

I am pointing to the video giving a FULL path. This is fine for showing a video over the internet. However, if you're streaming (a live event or a VERY LONG video, you have to do it differently substituting mms for http, and have a static IP. You'll find that you'll have trouble getting your IP provider to let you stream and use their bandwidth. If you have a static IP you can stream straight off you home computer.

Play around with this and see if it works. If it doesn’t, then give me some more info and we'll go from there. Also, go back and read what I've already written in this thread about "how to" very close.

Denn

09-01-2007, 10:22 AM

Hello there,
I'm attempting to do a live streaming broadcast using WME. It works fine, i'm able to load the video/audio. This is my html link w/ the embedded player: http://www.mrbowling300.com/tvbowling.htm

I have a great video/audio capture device (conopus). When it's encoding, and streaming, and I go to the above url on the same computer, it works fine. I'm able to see the video and hear the audio. When I have friends load the same link while i'm streaming, nothing comes up on their screen. The player says connecting to media for about 15 seconds, then eventually goes back to ready.

At this point, I don't know why it's not working. Is there simply not enough bandwidth to accomplish what I want to do?

Any help or suggestions at all would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!

mrbowling

Mr. Bowling,

It could be several things and not knowing your skill levels I need to ask a few questions.

Have you uploaded the video to the internet and are you pointing to the video? Also, the way I use a path is like this...

http://wkfk.tv/Commercials/Angies-0441-01.wmv

I am pointing to the video giving a FULL path. This is fine for showing a video over the internet. However, if you're streaming (a live event or a VERY LONG video, you have to do it differently substituting mms for http, and have a static IP. You'll find that you'll have trouble getting your IP provider to let you stream and use their bandwidth. If you have a static IP you can stream straight off you home computer.

Play around with this and see if it works. If it doesn’t, then give me some more info and we'll go from there. Also, go back and read what I've already written in this thread about "how to" very close.