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netbuddy
09-24-2006, 07:03 PM
have you ever wondered what goes into them?
I just found out and it will make you sick to know that they basically take all the chicken skin recovered from the carcase and add some offal to it and then put in a very tiny amount of the actual meat, so what you are getting when you go into your local Mc D's or BK is not chicken as we know it but a nugget of pulped skin.
When you consider that the current price of pure breast meat (about £1.99) is cheaper than a box of 6 nuggets (£3.49) from your nearest Mc D's you begin to see how these huge corporations have risen to massive proffits by giving us *hit for food and charging for it as if its the real thing.
The super & hyper markets are not to be dismissed as the very same nuggets from the freezer in your local grocery store is just as meatless.
KFC (including other independent and small chain stores) are not out the water either, that southern fried coated beauty is actually 'Pumped' meat which has a slurry of denatured protien which is laced in sugar injected into the meat, coated and frozen. The reason why it is so finger lickin good is the slurry is sweet, during the coolking process, the sugars carmalise in the meat and the meat tastes nicer. The amount of sugar is not enough to make the thing taste like a (candy) chocolate bar but just enough to make you crave for more! Thats WHAT the secret recipie is, SUGAR!
Also on the hit list are Sausages and Beef Burgers allong with 'Free Flow' Mince and other budget mince meats which are actually MRM (Mechanically Recovered Meat) which is either blasted off the carcase with high pressure air or forced through a special mesh that turns the carcase remains into a protien slurry (ready for KFC!).
On the whole, the food industry is pretty sick when you know what it does to your food.
My father recounted an incident at a place he worked, he was the companys lead representative for chemical company that dealt with Agro and food chemicals, he found a couple of guys really excited one day in the test kitchens as they were trying out their new invention.
The invention was a chemical, they took some Pork Medalions and injected the meat with a small amount of this chemical, put the medalion in the oven and then began to explain to my dad what they had just cooked up.
What they had cooked up was a chemical that caused the meat to swell up, it ended up the size of a small joint of pork.
Other experiments that he came across was with fish, the fish was made to tase like, the aditives also changed the texture of the fish so it appeared to be more dense but tender, this was all in effort to make the fish like.... Chicken!
Any of you guys got any food horror stories?
why2k
10-11-2006, 02:18 AM
I like pork. and KFC burgers and I don't really care what goes into it but it is good for all the people who get funny about food. If you look at all of these studies that have been done over the years and try to follow every single one you will end up eating nothing!
Eg: dont eat this coz this will happen and dont eat that coz this will happen..
My moto
Live hard, eat good, die young and have a good looking corpse..
LOL
SuPerNoVi
10-11-2006, 03:55 AM
Well I don't know about in america or the rest of the world but the problem of using crap in chicken nuggets was cracked down on in the UK. McDonalds now have healthy 100% proper chicken breast now. McDonalds in the UK went through a bit of a change due to a lot of health concerns and now has salads and no more super size drinks and food.
I love chicken nuggets so I am glad they made them healthier. I don't suppose they have any reason to in the US though.
netbuddy
10-11-2006, 08:27 AM
Chicken nuggets still remain the same method of making them all that they will have needed to do is to increase the content of the actual meat to more than 50% to be able to legally call them Chicken nuggets, you will find that chickemn skins are still being pumped into this mix with offal. The programme I refered to is only 9 months old as well so it is very current and it only goes to still prove that American companys like Mc D's cant be trusted.
So when was this crack down? Mc D's selling 100% pure chicken nuggets... never, it would be commercial suicide if they did that and those same nuggets would set you back atleast £12 a box of 12. If you really want to buy something like chicken, buy it from a butchers shop, at least then you will be getting what you pay for and not something thats bulked out with god knows what. If you made your own 100% chicken nuggets, coated them in a batter and deep fried them, you would instantly realize what an utter pile of crap that statement about Mc D's producing 100% chicken nuggets was.
You have to have some concern over what the food industry is doing to our food because it directly relates to your health, your only as healthy as the food you eat, if you eat these meals, you get fat, develop diabeties and heart problems, look at the average american blimp, if that isnt an advert to quit these burger joints, I dont know what is. If you want to eat the stuff that they churn out, thats your business and choice, I am simply bringing the issue to light again, a reminder once in a while doesnt hurt and changing your spending habbits towards buying organic foods (not from supermarkets) but from local green grocer & farm shops, you will be surprised at the difference and taste is better.
If you open your eyes to what is happening around you, you cant fail to see what is happening to the world around us, if you cant, your a sheep or as hackers refer to them... Cattle... Mooooooo.
Finally, one off at a tangent item, when people drop dead, the average corpse in the ground is taking several years to decompose because of the amount of preservatives that have built up in the body. A corpse should fully decompose within a year to 18 months and ont 5 or 6years or more. What does that tell you?
scragar
10-11-2006, 08:30 AM
can you point to the nugget on this picture of a chicken?
http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/economy/pictures/chicken.jpg
nope, didn't think so.
WebJoel
10-11-2006, 03:49 PM
I worked for 17 years in the dairy foods industry, as a cottage cheese maker, before leaving and going back to school and becoming a web page builder. We made decent products and won many gold & silver at the
State Fair competitions, but there were times that I witnessed 'corners being cut', in every department. And I am not impressed with "Kosher" quality products, not at all. -Some of the "Kosher" standards that are out there in use are extremely outdated. Things like containment vessels that are CLEAN but have not been used in a day or several days (or longer) under Kosher standards, only need be rinsed with 'the hottest water available'. -No soap, no chlorine, no sanitizer. Just 'rinse & fill'. -Doesn't matter if flies have been walking inside said vessel, -hot water rinse is okay. Ag&Mrkts and State require that a vessel to be used for food containment be washed with hot soapy chlorinated water at least once every 24 hours, -whether it's dirty or unused, -it MUST be re-washed prior to use.
And some so-called Kosher guidelines for over-the-road transporting (in refrigerated trucks) as I understand it, is that if the truck will be en~route more than 24 hours toit's destination and has to park somewhere overnight, it must park facing east so that the rising sun hits the 'tractor' part (the cab where the driver sits) first, and the 'reefer' part (refridgerated box that tractor pulls), last. Now I suppose that this meant something 500 or 1000 years ago, carrying a block of cheese or yogurt on a camel across the desert in the hot sun... I would prefer that the cheese be carried under the camel's belly, -protected from the blazing sun for as much as possible...
But yeah, -study food science for awhile and you'll want to throw your hands up in horror and disgust and go live like Tom Hanks character in "Castaway", eating raw coconut and whatever else you can grow for yourself on some deserted island unfilthified by human technoculturing... :(
And yes, I am supportive of the initiative to remove certain items from restaurant use (vis NYC of recent), things like hydrogenated oils used to cook foods in, etc.
MstrBob
10-11-2006, 04:17 PM
Thing is, a lot of the nasty part of processed foods these days are what makes them tasty and consistent. For companies to maximize their profit they send food through these processes, pumping them full of chemicals and what not to ensure uniform quality, often at the expense of natural flavor and nutrition. It's the way things are.
Of course you can avoid a large part of it all by, well, actually cooking your own meals. Generally speaking, it's a whole lot more natural to buy a chicken and roast it yourself than to buy some KFC. Though, honestly, some of the natural processes can seem rather nasty to.
Oh, and you know those products that proudly proclaim "100% Natural Flavors"? Yeah, well, they are the same damn chemicals, but they are obtained by "natural" means. Which includes genetically-modified bacteria producing them (which is starting to catch on now). Artificial or Natural, they are the same damn flavors.
Reli4nt
10-12-2006, 12:34 AM
Don't complain and feel all indignant. We make the choice to eat this crap every freaking day. All supermarkets sell chicken breast. No one is forcing you to buy the hellish crap McD's is trying to pass as food. All supermarkets sell organic produce, yet we breeze past it and by the cheaper pesticide, funcide, herbicide laden irradiate bioengeneered wax covered treated "produce" because organic food is too expensive. The trick is organic food isn't expensive, the treated food is very cheap and we're spoiled. By choosing to eat the cheap crap we put the real whole food companies out of business. We created the problem not the industries that profit from our laziness and cheapness. They are simply exploiting our own weaknesses.
I can't say that I blame them. If there is a dollar to be made because half the world is lazy and ignorant, why not?
MstrBob
10-12-2006, 03:13 PM
What's wrong with bioengineering? All it does is take the guess work and genetic dice roll out of what humans have been doing since the dawn of agriculture: selective breeding (With corn being a great example).
Reli4nt
10-12-2006, 03:37 PM
It's the same with almost everything else. Nothing is inherently wrong with it. Bioengineering foods to increase sugar amounts "improves" taste but also increases our sugar addiction and our propensity for obesity. It also adds a lot of vitamins to foods that many people would otherwise not have gotten.
Znupi
10-12-2006, 03:58 PM
Well, that's one reason why I'm happy to be living in Romania :D. Food here is, yes, injected with all sorts of chemicals, but not in the same proportion as in the US or other countries. Also, here you can buy chicken (and pork and any type of meat) from the people who actually grow them... And these have no chemicals whatsoever (Of course, Mc Donalds is here, too, but rarely people eat there...).
The same about vegetables and any type of food... Romania rocks :p
Waylander
10-12-2006, 09:09 PM
All I have to say is:
Eat raw fresh plant material and you will feel fantastic.
I cant understand how people like ****ty foods, when I eat things like spinach and lettuce from a real growers market, I can taste the goodness in the food.
That goodness tastes good to me. Ive learned that eating good food makes you feel good, so I associate that feeling with the flavour of the food. I am the master of my mind, my mind does not master me. I could never handle being a slave to a sugar addiction.
Waylandzor.
MstrBob
10-13-2006, 02:20 PM
*sips coffee*
PSST!
PSST! Waylander! You want a hit of this stuff?
:p
nshiell
10-13-2006, 02:48 PM
"McDonalds now have healthy 100% proper chicken breast now" = BS
I thought nuggets where oversized gaul bladders
Reli4nt
10-13-2006, 03:13 PM
*sips coffee*
PSST!
PSST! Waylander! You want a hit of this stuff?
:p
LOL
That was great.
Waylander
10-16-2006, 12:40 AM
hah I drink coffee every day. twice most days. I dont think coffee is bad for you, its made from seeds. Its never actually been proven to cause or prevent anything, its just good.
Coffee is awesome, but you have to be true, like me, and drink it black with no sugar.
Waylandzor.
nshiell
10-16-2006, 06:47 AM
Waylander I hope you enjoy you bean juce
it's OJ for me I think.
MstrBob
10-16-2006, 04:14 PM
You are all so terrible!
Won't anyone think of the plants? How do you think they feel about the constant mutilation and ruthless slaughter of their kind, just so that we can eat? What gives us the right to destroy plants so that we may live?!!
:p
Chemicals in fast food -- pshaw! Those are no different than what you'd get from your grocer's shelf. What you should be shocked at are the horrors associated with food preparation in the fast food industry. Now that's where you're going to get bacteria that will make you sick, or kill you!
BTW, MstrBob and Waylander, new studies say coffee with caffeine is good for you! :)
http://www.webmd.com/content/Article/80/96454.htm
Waylander
10-17-2006, 03:47 AM
OJ eww...
Coffee is a stimulant...
Regardless of its good qualities I know it has bad ones as well.
Yes KDLA whats in those packets on the grocers shelves are pretty bad arent they?
even then my green leafy vegetables are probably sprayed with pesticides, so I make sure to wash them when I get them home... but Im not really down with wasting drinking water on it so there still is the chlorine and flouride in the water...
theres no escape!!!
why2k
10-17-2006, 05:38 AM
Yeah no escape!!!!! I will take over the world!!! one letuce at a time! Come on people eat up............
I like coffee I normaly wake up after my 10th cup! The stuff is good for you!
EricG1793
07-18-2007, 04:01 PM
What is your source? How do you know that this is what Chicken Nuggets are made of?
What about Burger King's Chicken Fries? Are those OK?