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sutabi
10-11-2006, 07:47 PM
Something I started working on... Free solution of course. Its just an alternative to an internal search engines. Currently the search/crawler is developed in python with a php interface. No you cannot signup yet, just wondered if anyone would be interest in this.

http://www.shabb.com/

dotancohen
10-12-2006, 09:17 PM
For one thing, the site looks like a blog gone wrong. For another, it's not clear as to whether it's an end-user search engine (like google) or a search-our-site engine.

It's for crawling protected content? Why would a website want to have it's non-public information crawled?

sutabi
10-13-2006, 01:04 AM
dotancohen,

The crawlered results are private and only accessable from the sites its obtained from. They retain all right to their content and at any time have the rights to remove their crawled content, as stated in the policy I only intend to use the results for further development not public searches.

Basicly its to act as an Internal search engine. Reason why I even cam up with this is because the company I work for has a few content sites and a method they use to make the site see "big" is have large amounts of links for navigation. This is overwhelming for a user and most of the time, the user already knows what they want, they just need to find it.

And yes I am anti-internetExplorer, as why its disformated in IE.

dotancohen
10-13-2006, 04:02 AM
Then why password-protect it?

sutabi
10-13-2006, 04:28 AM
dotancohen

Eh, I guess an ill fated soul your like yourself would not read what I wrote.

Now you write:
> Then why password-protect it?

The crawled data is ONLY accessable from the site its obtained from... meaning only the customers of that site (the one that shabb crawled) gets to use the search engine. Its not usable from any other standing point, so its not like all their wholesome content is spoiled, because its never released publicly.

Ask yourself this:
> Ever programmed an internal search engine?

You have to custom fit to internal search engine to the template system you use then on top of that if its SQL driven you have to run queries. Its not too much troble. Plus features like tracking queries ran, which links are click or even a rating system takes additional time. My selling point (which im not selling anything here is) that you can have all those features with close to no effort. You also avoid your server's job to handle those searches.

SuPerNoVi
10-13-2006, 04:47 AM
A simpler way of exaplining it, if I am understanding this right is.. You know a lot of sites add a google bar to their site to act as a search function well this does the same thing without the google brand or the linking to other search results on the web.

I probably have it wrong, in which case your explanation sucks and you need to simplify it so people know what you are actually doing here. That is not an insult just a sugestion.

sutabi
10-13-2006, 05:17 AM
SuPerNoVi

By all standards I am not teacher, I speak in code not english. Only way I explain stuff is by example.

But yes you are correct, like Google Ajax Search w/o logo or ads. Plus search protected content while keeping it protected.

SuPerNoVi
10-13-2006, 05:26 AM
Fact is dude, you have a product wether it is a profitable product or not is irrelivent. If you want people to use your product (which I imagine you do) then you need to dumb it down and make it at least seem simpler and more appealing.

Oh and the header of your site is very unclear, im using Firefox anda 1280x1024 resolution and I can't really read it.

dotancohen
10-13-2006, 06:58 AM
You are taking this conversation way too personal, Sutabi. You asked if anybody would be interested. I'm trying to understand to what crowd to are appealing. The viability of your methods or ideas are not my responsibility to judge. Rather, the potential for interest I am trying to establish. As there is no clear definition or explanation as to what you are attempting, I have nothing on which to base that potential.

Well, actually, I do. I can say that your inability to communicate your ideas will likely be a barrier to interest being generated in your product. I say that with the intention of helping you, of course, not with the intention of insulting you. After all, that's why we're both here, no? To help each other.

sutabi
10-13-2006, 02:34 PM
[QUOTE=dotancohen]You are taking this conversation way too personal, Sutabi.QUOTE]

SuPerNoVi made a very liable suggestion, I in no way took it personal. I did ask for personal thoughts, and received more confusion then expected.

dotancohen
10-14-2006, 06:20 AM
Alright, just making sure that we're all still friends. :)