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Jonathan
07-08-2003, 10:46 PM
How can I make a background with paint shop pro v. 5.01 somehting?

pyro
07-08-2003, 11:08 PM
That's what you would call a broad question. What exactly are you looking for? Any image can be used as a background, so... :confused:

Jonathan
07-08-2003, 11:11 PM
hehe, I just want a clean background, one without any rigid edges, like the one here...

www.htmlgoodies.com

That has a clean edge, but that is not my background...

Jonathan
07-08-2003, 11:13 PM
I guess I should ask what type of extension should I use, .gif .jpg etc

pyro
07-08-2003, 11:20 PM
I have PSP7, so I'm not sure if this will apply.

Use the line tool, and choose Bezier Curve. Set up the width and click Antialias. Now, just draw a curved line, that can be tiled (ie, the top and the bottom will match up). You can save as a .png, .gif, or a .jpg (lossy compression).

Jonathan
07-09-2003, 10:04 AM
so how wouold I align all of my stuff... like micrsoft.com?

pyro
07-09-2003, 10:15 AM
Umm... what exactly do you mean?

Jonathan
07-09-2003, 10:21 AM
See where it says "Microsoft". well I need to align my links and my stuff like they have their links in that black part and the links at the very bottom

DaveSW
07-09-2003, 10:35 AM
What are you using for layout?

Is your site crosspoint.org?

EDIT: dumb question when it's in your sig!! LOL

spufi
07-09-2003, 10:36 AM
<div class="menu">
<a href="link.html">Home</a> |
<a href="link2.html">Link 2</a> |
<a href="link3.html">Link 3</a>
</div>

You can define things like where the links go in the menu class and define the attributes for the links like this.

.menu a { definitions... }

Jonathan
07-09-2003, 10:38 AM
so you are saying I should use somthing like this?

A.menu
{
top : 2px;
left : 130px;
}

spufi
07-09-2003, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by Jonathan
so you are saying I should use somthing like this?

A.menu
{
top : 2px;
left : 130px;
}

I may be incorrect in this, but I think doing it your way would define thngs as any <a> tag that has a menu class, which in my code is incorrect. What mine is saying, is any <a> tag within another tag that has the menu class.

For validation sake, you need to have a meta tag that says something like this.

<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">

Jonathan
07-09-2003, 10:51 AM
I am not sure if I know what you are saying or not

DaveSW
07-09-2003, 11:18 AM
1)

In your style sheet, after all your normal A:hover etc, you add a new set of declarations as you posted.

A.menu:link{color....}
A.menu:visited{color...}
A.menu:hover{...}
A.menu:active{...}

These will only apply to the link with class menu.

e.g. <a href="" class="menu"...>


Spufi's method was to have a div enclosing all the menu that you want to change, and set the div class to menu.

2)

<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">

is an extra bit of html to go in the head section, and specifies the character set for the keyboard.

Jonathan
07-09-2003, 11:30 AM
so how would that help me postiion my links?

I would just put the top: and the left:

spufi
07-09-2003, 11:41 AM
.menu { position:absolute; top:2px; left:130px; }

That positions the div tag which has the links inside of it. If you wish to define things to the links themselves, do something like this.

.menu a { text-decoration:none; color:#000; }

.menu a:hover { color:#FFF; }

Jonathan
07-09-2003, 12:25 PM
arg, the bg is showing up "full page" size

DaveSW
07-09-2003, 01:24 PM
Do you mean it's tiling?

normally the image is made 1600px wide and you only use the first 50 or so for your background.

or try using css instead:
<body style="background-image: url('back.gif'); background-position: left; background-repeat: repeat-y;">

I think that condenses to background: url('back.gif') left repeat-y

Jonathan
07-09-2003, 01:46 PM
aight... I will take your first advise

DaveSW
07-09-2003, 02:00 PM
They're both ok - the first method is the norm. I prefer the second because it's a smaller file size.

Jonathan
07-09-2003, 02:01 PM
doesn't the second one make it repeat a bunch of times?

DaveSW
07-09-2003, 02:44 PM
you choose.
repeat-y repeats it downwards.
repeat-x repeats it across
no-repeat doesn't repeat it.
repeat repeats it down and across.

I use repeat-y on the body tag so if the page contents don't fill the screen the border goes right to the bottom.

I used it here:
http://www.tollgatesecurity.co.uk

Jonathan
07-09-2003, 02:50 PM
noted... but how do I make one streched?

DaveSW
07-09-2003, 02:51 PM
stretched in what way?

Jonathan
07-09-2003, 03:29 PM
so that it fits the page, I heard you shrink the image so that it is detailed then you set it as a bg... but that doesn't work for me

DaveSW
07-09-2003, 04:12 PM
can you upload somewhere? I'm still not sure what you mean.

Jonathan
07-10-2003, 11:59 AM
Its ok, I figured out, thanks