Re-writing attached javascript for Accessibility

[508]

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[scragar]

I wouldn't recommend using a no-right click script anyway, any n00b can disable javascript or edit the page using a simple editor like frontpage and steal your images from there.

[508]

I know. But it does not matter. Company management wants this script and in accessible format.

[A1ien51]

Disabling the right click is probably against 508!

There is no code that is going to be able to disable the right click without JavaScript so there is no way to have it in accessible format.

Tell your company if they do not want stuff taken, do not put it on the web!

Eric

[508]

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[A1ien51]

You do not have to change your font, I can read and oull out important information. I do read reqs. documents all the time!

Your company is asking you to do the impossible. You can not have script when script is disabled! So that means NOSCRIPT only shows TEXT. Hence why you see text.

So what would I tell my boss: "Um, it is impossible to do this on the web sir. The only way we could control our enviornmnet is to develop a client application instead. Since that is not our goal, and if you want the site to be 508 compliant, we should not have the right click on the page in the first place. If you are worried that images and text will be stolen, the files already reside on the user's computer since when we view a web page they are downloaded to our temp folder. So I can go there and view it with no problem. So to round this up, sorry we can not destroy the user's experience on our site if they have JavaScript disabled."

If you are trying to protect images, best you can do is this: http://www.thesitewizard.com/webdesign/imagetoolbar.shtml, but it is a waste of time.

If your boss still does not believe you, I would find a new job.

Eric

[felgall]

To set up a no right click script that meets accessibility guidelines. Here is the easiest way (all other ways are much harder).

Step one: catch three and a half flying pigs.
Step two: feed one of the flying pigs to a dragon.

The dragon will then tell you the rest of the process you need to follow in return for the other two and a half flying pigs.

If instead you are actually trying to protect images on the web page then the prosess is much easier.
1. Take a copy of the image to modify for use on the internet.
2. Reduce the image to the exact size you want to use on the web page.
3. Add a watermark into the image itself advising copright or domain name.
4. Reduce the quality of the image as far as you can so as to make the image unusable anywhere except on the web.
5. Substitute that version for the original.

Now you have copies of the images on the web that advertise which site they belong to and which are poor enough quality that any attempt to remove the watermark should make the quality too low even for web use.

[508]

1. I do not know anything about watermarking images.

2. Can either you give a resonable substitue issue that can meet our goals before I remove the script?

3. I have seen a javscript on several government websites and none of them have the text displayed or the gray text box displayed.

4. I do know that U.S. Government website are required by law to comply with 508. How are they using the script tag without displaying a gray text box or displaying the noscript tag/text?

[508]

How can the meta tag at http://www.thesitewizard.com/webdesign/imagetoolbar.shtml disallow "all" images on my website?

[A1ien51]

The noscript is no meant to put code in it. Not sure if you got that through your head. The noscript is meant to give a non JavaScript solution or you tell the user that features are not there without JavaScript.

Your site is not going to run any different without this script. If they do not want the images taken, do not put them online. Search google for watermarking images.

Eric

[abz]

The NOSCRIPT element allows authors to provide alternate content when a script is not executed. The content of a NOSCRIPT element should only be rendered by a script-aware user agent in the following cases:

* The user agent is configured not to evaluate scripts.
* The user agent doesn't support a scripting language invoked by a SCRIPT element earlier in the document.

User agents that do not support client-side scripts must render this element's contents.

http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/scripts.html#h-18.3.1

[508]

Before I start, I want to make an wise attempt at using the meta tag for non scripting images. The question I am asking is how can I use it do disable all images?

The template website you gave me indicated how to disable one image.

I have more than one image I want to at least try for this scenario

Sincerely,

508

[508]

I have a new question. What would happen if I used an empty noscript tag?

[A1ien51]

Same thing if you used an empty span tag or an empty body tag. Nothing would show up since there is nothing to display.

Eric

[508]

Would it satisfy section 508 and the company since there is a noscript tag, but nothing to show?

[felgall]

If there is nothing to go in a noscript tag then the tag is redundant and should be removed. The tag is only required when you need to put something in the page when javscript is not available. There are no actual clearcut tests for a lot of the assessibility requirements since the exact needs can vary between different pages. The basic objective is that the page be usable regardless of whether or not Javascript is available and regardless of what disabilities a particular visitor may have.

[508]

I want to know what A1ien51 thinks about the pros and cons about what I am saying.

508

[toicontien]

The accessibility of JavaScript actually has less to do with javascript and more to do with HTML. All links should have valid URLs in the href attribute. You can use javascript to intercept link clicks in order to do some action. All FORMs should have real working URLs for the action attribute. Basically, your site should still be usable without javascript enabled, but you can use javascript to intercept certain system events, like mouse clicks, movements of the mouse, the window being loaded or unloaded.

If any dynamic content is added or removed using Javascript, set focus to an <a> tag near the new content so screen readers can begin reading at the point where content changed. Pages should also not require the use of a mouse. It should be fully keyboard navigable.

If you satisfy those requirements, then your javascript is accessible, for the most part. Just remember to code the HTML so it works without javascript, then you can use JavaScript and the DOM to add functionality to an already functional page.

My philosophy on accessibility and where it fits into the web design process:

Web Design is a Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwhich (http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?p=377368#post377368)

[508]

The last respone I got from an outside source (not webdeveloper or jupitermedia) was that it could be accomplished through CSS. The source did not explain how. Turning a script to CSS is new to me.

Can it be done?

How?

[A1ien51]

No

[508]

I also read that client-side scripting is more acessible than server-side.

What input do you have to make the script client-side?

[Reli4nt]

I also read that client-side scripting is more acessible than server-side.
I really don't see how.
What input do you have to make the script client-side?
JavaScript is client side script so that is alreadyaccomplished

[toicontien]

Server Side scripting creates HTML. If the HTML is accessible, then technically the server side script is accessible. If your page is completely usable without JavaScript, then your client side script is mostly accessible.