Frames: Still Bad??

[DavidY]

Are the use of frames still considered a bad idea? From what I understood, the search engines had a hard time with them. Is that still the case (i.e. have the search engines figured out how to work with frames yet)? What are the other downsides to frames? Thanks.

[drhowarddrfine]

This is still true and it is difficult for users to bookmark pages.

[DavidY]

Bummer. Ok, thanks! :cool:

[ray326]

Framed sites are also more expensive to maintain.

[dataline]

David,

Sorry that I'm "borrowing" the discussion you started. Too lazy to start a new one .....

I'm learning and working on a site with 3 frames: top, left/menu and main. If I forego frames completely, how do the pros suggest I build the site if I always want the top (home, about us, contact us, etc.) to be on all pages, and the left menu to also be on all pages?

Thanks!

DL

[_Aerospace_Eng_]

Use server side includes. Also don't be lazy its not nice to hijack a thread.

[DavidY]

David,

Sorry that I'm "borrowing" the discussion you started. Too lazy to start a new one .....

I'm learning and working on a site with 3 frames: top, left/menu and main. If I forego frames completely, how do the pros suggest I build the site if I always want the top (home, about us, contact us, etc.) to be on all pages, and the left menu to also be on all pages?

Thanks!

DL

No problem. I'm learning too! :) My site is the same situation as yours, header frame on top, contents on left, and a main frame. I also like having the header and contents frames remain static. But it seems like it may just be better to forego frames altogether and keep it simple.

[DavidY]

I'm having a hard time trying to decide how to rework my website without using frames. :(

Does anyone have any opinions on whether I should just keep the same layout and remove the frames, or should I completely redesign the layout? Here's a link to it --> www.tbirefocus.com (http://www.tbirefocus.com).

Thanks for any suggestions.

[ray326]

You can keep the layout and use server side includes of some kind to assemble the pages with a consistent banner and global nav bar.