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webHeretic
07-27-2003, 08:12 PM
My partner and I have figured out a way to develop true Windows applications that look and feel and perform as if they were developed for the desktop using Java but run in a browser. We just finished developing an application for a client and they are amazed. We tied into the clients .Net and SQL Server architecture but can just as easily tie into Java or any other architecture.
We are considering creating a development suite based on this technology and are wondering if there is interest and what price and features you would want.
TIA,
Steve Norris
President
Norrisoft
Nevermore
07-28-2003, 09:05 AM
No offense but that technology has been around for a while - most of it is inate in Swing and the awt class files.
I don't really see there being much interest because creating a GUI in an Applet isn't very hard - if I had the SDK on this computer I would knock one up in 5 minutes to show you. The only way that you would sell the product is by making it use wizars for absolutely everything so that you can appeal to people who know no Java and dont have a fortnight to learn enough to make it.
If you can make something that user-friendly, then yes, you might find demand, but anytihng to appeal to more experienced developers (the people who would pay more than $50), you would need to have an incredibly fast, versatile package with many thousands of wizards and templates and some more complex functionality.
edit: A question: Why would you want Java applications running as applets when it will just make them slower and less capable??
Compguy Pete
07-28-2003, 09:52 AM
Well would this be offered as an ASP from you?
I guess here is my problem... What you have developed sounds interesting if someone or someplace had a need to run an app online that you could make a Java version of it.
The problem is marketing! How would you get the bug implanted into enough developers to make it worth trying to market?
webHeretic
07-28-2003, 11:00 AM
Sorry cijori, also no offense, but this technology has not been around for awhile. I'm not talking Java at all. Current Java technology has too big a client footprint and is a pig. Trust me, IBM tried Java Swing on a client site recently and gave up.
We're talking about the ability to create large-scale transaction-processing applications (specifically the GUI for such applications) that large organizations use. Traditionally these applications were developed using PowerBuilder or Forte, or Java or VisualFoxpro, etc. We have a technology that is similar to Java Swing but not Java Swing. My CTO is a Java Swing Guru. We're talking full windows functionality delivered via a browser. We're not talking applets, we're talking full-blown apps.
What we're talking about is what Sun was trying to do - kill the desktop and deliver everything over the web. We don't won't to kill the desktop and we're not attacking MS but we found a way to do deliver where Java has failed.
Compguy Pete, we're going to have to hit the trade shows and get our demo on our site. Once you see it, you won't believe it.
webHeretic
07-28-2003, 11:18 AM
don't want - not don't won't - where did that come from? Misfiring neurons before breakfast. Sorry.
webHeretic
07-28-2003, 11:22 AM
cijori,
Sorry for the confusion. I just read my original post again and it sounded like we developed this in Java. We're not using Java. I meant it "looked like we used Java to develop it."
Nevermore
07-28-2003, 01:19 PM
OK. It does sound like an interesting idea.
Khalid Ali
07-28-2003, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by webHeretic
we're going to have to hit the trade shows and get our demo on our site. Once you see it, you won't believe it.
I'll be looking forward to see what you have to offer,it will be nice if you post a link to the site that has the promo or at least some graphical interface where people like me at least can spend some time and feel what is this app all about..