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Rick Bull
11-24-2002, 10:37 AM
You can have your HDDs formatted by using Internet Explorer :p http://www.extremetech.com/article2...3,717213,00.asp Maybe now you'll switch to a more standards compliant browser ;) There is a fix at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ I think.
Zach Elfers
11-24-2002, 06:05 PM
INTERNET EXPLORER IS THE BEST BROWSER!!!! BETTER THAN ANY OTHER!:D
Charles
11-25-2002, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by Zach Elfers
INTERNET EXPLORER IS THE BEST BROWSER!!!! BETTER THAN ANY OTHER!:D Mozilla kicks MSIE's buttocks and Opera is a far, far better browser that Mozilla. And Lynx is better than Netscape 4. And Umberto Eco is a much better writer than Tolkien.
Rick Bull
11-25-2002, 09:25 AM
A bit off-topic, but: have you tried the Opera 7 beta Charles? What do you think? Definately a big improvement over V6.
Charles
11-25-2002, 10:48 AM
I'm not a big Beta tester so no, I haven't previewed Opera 7. But I'm having trouble waiting for the real thing to come out. Does it support XML stylesheets?
Rick Bull
11-25-2002, 11:01 AM
Yes it seems to (just on a quick test page I wrote). I thought V6 did anway, but maybe not. Some of it's CSS support is actually a lot better than Mozilla, but there are still a few bugs. Hopefully they'll have most of them sorted before the final.
Charles
11-25-2002, 11:06 AM
How about all that funky CSS2 stuff, markers and page breaks ???

Perhaps I will try out the Beta.
Rick Bull
11-25-2002, 12:49 PM
Yep I think they all work. This example from the CSS 2 spec works (which I think does not in Mozilla):


<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>Creating a list with markers</TITLE>
<STYLE type="text/css">
LI:before {
display: marker;
content: counter(mycounter, lower-roman) ".";
counter-increment: mycounter;
}
</STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
<OL>
<LI> This is the first item.
<LI> This is the second item.
<LI> This is the third item.
</OL>
</BODY>
</HTML>


I think the page breaks work fine too. They have site navigation bars, alternate style sheets, and a bunch of other style implemented too now. I find it does crash from time to time, but it's really good apart from that.
Klyve1
11-27-2002, 06:21 PM
Is the beta 7 on general release? Do you know the url, I'd like to try it out.
Stefan
11-28-2002, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by Klyve1
Is the beta 7 on general release? Do you know the url, I'd like to try it out.

http://www.opera.com (Windows only AFAIK)
hambo
11-28-2002, 03:46 AM
"I find it does crash from time to time, but it's really good apart from that."

I think that says it all......


IE rules...
smurfy
11-28-2002, 04:43 AM
I find it does crash from time to time, but it's really good apart from that
I think that says it all......
No, in fact Opera 7 BETA is what actually says it all.
I haven't used the Beta but Opera 6 causes far fewer crashes on my systems that IE. I'd bet that even the Beta Opera is more stable and security bug free than a final release from M$

My preferences:
Opera 6
Mozilla 1.x
IE6
NS4.62
IE5.x
NS6

I do still use IE a lot (have to at work - no choice) and there are just so many FrontPage designed sites out there that just don't work properly in anything else :(
Rick Bull
11-28-2002, 06:50 AM
By the way there is an new Opera 7 beta, which just fixed that security problem where pages could access some files on your HDD.
Stefan
11-28-2002, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by Rick Bull
By the way there is an new Opera 7 beta, which just fixed that security problem where pages could access some files on your HDD.

The way MS handles that is by calling it a feature :D
Stefan
11-28-2002, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by smurfy

My preferences:
Opera 6
Mozilla 1.x


If you place Opera 6 before Mozilla you might want to try out K-Meleon and Phoenix. Slimmed down browser only versions of Mozilla.

Those 2 togheter with Opera 7 are by far the best browsers on Win currently IMO.

http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/
http://texturizer.net/phoenix/download.html
telconstar99
12-01-2002, 01:20 AM
Oh, just so you guys know, let me translate a bit of Microsoft terminology <grin>.

IE v6 really means IE V6 Alpha.

IE v6 sp1 really means IE V6 Beta.

IE v6 sp2 really means IE V6.

It always seems to take Microsoft two service packs to at least halfway get it right.
Zach Elfers
12-01-2002, 02:36 PM
Opera is okay. I like it better than Mozzilla. Mozilla supports good features and stuff, but I don't think that it is all that great. Although for a version 1.0 browser, Mozilla is the best I've ever seen.
Zach Elfers
12-01-2002, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Charles
Mozilla kicks MSIE's buttocks and Opera is a far, far better browser that Mozilla. And Lynx is better than Netscape 4. And Umberto Eco is a much better writer than Tolkien.

Have you even read Tolkien's writings?
telconstar99
12-01-2002, 06:22 PM
Oh, I love Tolkien's books! Well, I say that, I haven't read all of the Sil or UTs (only parts). However, I'm a HUGE fan of the series. I read them every year and am about to start "The Two Towers". I can't wait for the movie to come out!
Zach Elfers
12-01-2002, 08:38 PM
I read the Silm. It was very good. How was UT?
telconstar99
12-02-2002, 12:01 AM
I've only read bits and pieces of it, however, it seems very good. I believe I will start the Sil again soon (I tried when I was in the 6th grade and got lost.)