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luke0
08-29-2003, 11:39 AM
im looking for free web space
my old site crazy russells falling apart
do you known a web site that dose free web space (20-?? mb)
but i want to use Web Publishing Wizard on my pc
thankx again
im going to cry now
:( :( :(
p.s. not ANGELFIRE OR LYCOS
Depends on what you are looking for. I'm guessing that Web Publishing Wizard will be able to transfer to most hosts (as long as it uses a standard protocol, such as FTP). Anyway, try looking around http://www.webhostdir.com/
luke0
08-29-2003, 11:52 AM
sorry but you have to pay about $7.95/mo
im looking for free 20mb web space
I'm not big on free hosting, so I don't know of any specific sites, but search google (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=free+hosting) or look at http://www.free-php-hosting.com
luke0
08-29-2003, 01:10 PM
i did not help me
I don't know what to tell you then. There are pleny of choices at http://www.free-php-hosting.com that fit what you said you were looking for (free, and 20mb of space), and many that are much better than that...
Damien
08-29-2003, 01:19 PM
It depends what you class as free, for instance if you don't hand over cash, then you end up posting a banner on your site, which makes the site look crap.
Have a look at www.freehost.ie the domain name is at a price but the hosting seems good.
luke0
08-29-2003, 01:25 PM
you have to pay €36 a year
Damien
08-29-2003, 01:28 PM
you have to pay $99
no €35 a year
luke0
08-29-2003, 01:31 PM
i want a FREE WEB SITE DUDE
spufi
08-29-2003, 01:33 PM
As stated before, it depends on what you are looking for in a host. Do you need a host with ASP? PHP? A database? Just a site to put your stuff up and nothing fancy? I like Netfirms as a free host. You will need to download a FTP tool and I can't recommend WS_FTP LE enough.
luke0
08-29-2003, 01:35 PM
Just a site to put your stuff up and nothing fancy
spufi
08-29-2003, 01:38 PM
Then use Netfirms like I said.
luke0
08-29-2003, 01:39 PM
Netfirms .com .co.uk .ie .org wot
spufi
08-29-2003, 01:51 PM
netfirms.com. When in doubt, Google it.
ColdSteel
08-29-2003, 08:38 PM
Try out FreeWebz (http://www.FreeWebs.com) ....No Banner ads and no Pop-up ads...don't think they charge anything...hence the name of their site....hope this helps...
PeOfEo
08-29-2003, 09:54 PM
freewebz also only alows 16.6 meg of b-width per day. The only actual good free hosting I have ever found is at http://europe.webmatrixhosting.net they are an asp.net host only but look at this list
http://europe.webmatrixhosting.net/text.aspx?tmpl=about
its microsoft sponsored thats how they can provide it all for free.
PeOfEo
08-29-2003, 09:56 PM
If your heart is set on php or cgi go to www.flatface.net they are pretty good but they are a small host and its very hard to get onto their servers, like you need a good reason for having this site and have to be completly serious.
Jupac
08-29-2003, 11:54 PM
hey PeOfEo i saw this in the toS in http://europe.webmatrixhosting.net/default.aspx?s=signup
Geographical limitations
In order to use this service you should be living in Europe, Middle East or Africa. If you submitted incorrect information about your country of residence at the time of registration, your account may be terminated without notice.
can u live in USA?
PeOfEo
08-30-2003, 01:21 AM
Yes, it says you should be living in euope, not you 'must' be living in europe or asia etc. It says users that live in the united states can still use it, but submitting incorrect information will result in a deleted account. Just dont lie about living in the us and you wont have a problem. They really dont care that much, microsoft still pays parking (the host) a fat check no matter where the users live.
Jupac
08-30-2003, 01:29 AM
thanks im going to use webmatics/flatface:D :D Tahnks MAn
luke0
08-30-2003, 05:52 AM
i live in the uk
GavinPearce
08-30-2003, 11:18 AM
What you after? 20mb.
I'm 14, and a little while ago i knew excatly what it was like trying to find a host.
If you want it I got 50mb space, 500mb bandwidth and Cpanel 7.4.2. CGI, PHP, ASP and Culdfusion supported.
See the list at: http://www.hardyhosting.com/hosting.php
Only thing is you'll need a domain name, I can set it up without but you won't get the use of cpanel, and some of teh other extra features.
You can get a .co.uk domain from 123 reg for £6 for two years. Worth it. Goto http://www.gavinnet.com/ws/modules.php?op=modload&name=Web_Links&file=index&req=visit&lid=9
Do you use messenger?
Add me javagavin@hotmail.com and I'll try and sort something out.
luke0
08-30-2003, 11:51 AM
im looking for 20mb of web space
how do i start with ntl
GavinPearce
08-30-2003, 12:01 PM
I just offered you 50 and u turned it down because it was to much???
Email me:
contact@gavnet.com
or add me to msn messenger:
javagavin@hotmail.com
or send me a PM (hit the button below)
or just reply hear.
and i'll sort out hosting for you lol.
for gods sake
:p
luke0
08-30-2003, 12:09 PM
I just offered you 50 and u turned it down because it was to much???
i want 50 please please
luke0
08-30-2003, 12:10 PM
wots the site wots the site i need it i need it:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
GavinPearce
08-30-2003, 12:17 PM
I'd have to set it up for you. Add me to messenger and I can sort out some of the details.
PeOfEo
08-30-2003, 09:00 PM
Ok what is 500 by 30. 16.6. Thats how much bandwidth you are allowed to use daily. That is not much at all, you are going to use that right up.Unless you are running a download site you wont need that 50 meg and if you were running a download site chances are you will run out of daily bandwidth before the download is through. That host sucks.
GavinPearce
08-31-2003, 05:04 AM
16mb is more than enough for his needs per day. And 500mb is just a guide. People are allowed over that.
If you wanted some high powered site I wouldn't offer the free hosting, you'd have to buy. Clients are fine on hardyhosting. I have business with custom plans of 250mb transfer a month who rearely go over, so so much for you little attack at me.
And now your moaning about him having 50mb. Would you choose 50mb or 20mb! ?
I don't know how you write your sites, but say 5kb for a page, 5 pages (25kb) about 30kbs of images. Thats about 55kb per user for the site. 50kb into 16.6mb is, well work it out. 16.6mb is more than enough for what he needs at the moment. Some people can code tidier than other :D
Sux0rZh@jc0rz
08-31-2003, 09:10 AM
Your my new best friend. Make peofeo look like an idiot a few more times, please please please?!?!? (hehehehe):D ;)
GavinPearce
08-31-2003, 11:14 AM
lol. I'm not trying to get at anybody personally (actually i was).
He could have easily said, 500mb doesn't sound a lot, and I agree, for some sites it isn't. My sites gets over 5000 hits and day, and I can sometimes transfer upto 10gb a month due to downloads hosted there as well. With lots of flash, shockwave and image content.
Now I wouldn't have minded that, its a fair point, but adding the 'That host sucks' bit made it personal, uneeded comment. hardyHosting does not suck. I have put a lot of hard work into that site, and I do not take kindly to people just blabbing off the site. Especially when they have not even seen the quailty of what we do here.
PeOfEo I am normally very open minded, and I would happily take compliments, or complaints, so long as they are valid. Hey I wouldn't have even minded if you said. That package sucks, thats your view, and you can comment on that because you've seen it, but to get at the host itself is unacceptable.
I'm 14 yer, and not to long ago I was looking for a host for the same reasons as luke0, i was lucky to bump into a friend in my search, and I made a bit of money, now I'm using my own servers. At the time though 500mb a month would have been much more than enough for my site which was about 20 pages, and a few games inculded to. Now OK it wouldn't be, but only because I was lucky, I got the right market at the right time, and am now making money to cover my costs. If luke0 does well, he can make some money out of it, and upgrade the hosting or something.
Come on, get real!
Oh yer, no offence meant at all to the person whos company I'm about to talk about, I'm sure your a very good host, but someone who uses this site offers 2mb of space, an address of http://www.theirdomain.com/~user, Perl, PHP for $7.95 a month or $74.95 a year. And they have clients I believe. SOrry again user, I won;t say who you are because I dondnt want to get you invovled, I just had to make a point.
PeOfEo
08-31-2003, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by gavinnet
16mb is more than enough for his needs per day. And 500mb is just a guide. People are allowed over that.
16 meg is absolutly not enough! When I was running on brinkster with that bandwidth my site would go down for the day at 50 hits. Also my site had very little java script on it and had very little graphix, you obviously dont have a very good concept of how many users you can get with a set amount of bandwidth.
PeOfEo
08-31-2003, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by Sux0rZh@jc0rz
Your my new best friend. Make peofeo look like an idiot a few more times, please please please?!?!? (hehehehe):D ;) How exactly did he make me look like an idiot?
PeOfEo
08-31-2003, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by gavinnet
PeOfEo I am normally very open minded, and I would happily take compliments, or complaints, so long as they are valid. Hey I wouldn't have even minded if you said. That package sucks, thats your view, and you can comment on that because you've seen it, but to get at the host itself is unacceptable. What the heck are you talking about? 'to get at the host itself is unnacceptable' If i criticize a host its because its policies suck, I have tried out and looked at many host faq sheets in my day before settling on the one I have not, I can tell when a host is going to screw me, after that I pass judgement on it as beeing sucky or not. If I said a host sucks its because it does.
Jupac
08-31-2003, 06:24 PM
PeOfEo is not an idiot!!!
PeOfEo
08-31-2003, 06:28 PM
Lol, I know that and you know that but I want to know why Sux0rZh@jc0rz thinks I was made to look like one.
Jupac
08-31-2003, 06:36 PM
cause he not a knight mayb lol
PeOfEo
08-31-2003, 06:38 PM
Lol...
Jupac
08-31-2003, 08:46 PM
Hey p can i have an account on ur site? im me k:D or icq
PeOfEo
08-31-2003, 09:22 PM
Its a battle net clan but the demo account is
login: sample account
password: 1234
GavinPearce
09-01-2003, 06:27 AM
If u judge a host by their free hosting account,
If i criticize a host its because its policies suck,
EXCATLY!
A free hosting account is not a policy.
PeOfEo
09-01-2003, 10:50 AM
Yes but you were talking about the free hosting, thats what you described, 50 meg of space 500mb per month transfer, that policy, which is the free hosting policy, sucks. It is a policy if they offer it.
GavinPearce
09-01-2003, 10:56 AM
policy would be how we handle customers, our terms and condtions, anjy requirements that sites must have to be hosted with us. nothing to do with the packages we offer. May i add you still said the host sucks, not the package sucks, or even the policy for that matter.
Anyway, lets tone this down a litte, we shouldn't be arguging like this on the forum anyway :p
PeOfEo
09-01-2003, 11:08 AM
My host is awesome look at their faq sheet, if you looked their you would see they are great, they are personal hosting not e-commerce, and look at what you get for the price. Fine then that hosts free hosting 'package' sucks, their free hosting policy sucks then. 16.6 meg of bandwidth daily will probably cut off at around 50 hits
GavinPearce
09-01-2003, 11:15 AM
I think luke0 currently has a bit fewer hits than that. ANd it was just an offer I felt like making. i don't normally offer free, and I don't think I will again now after this lol.
His site is very small, and very few hits. Don't think it would have run over. Yes I agree, like I did a while ago, 500mb isn't much, but it was a custom package designed to suit the person I was offering it to.
PeOfEo
09-01-2003, 11:17 AM
Ahhhhh, ok I see. It was a custum package.
GavinPearce
09-01-2003, 11:21 AM
lol no hard feelings? :p
soz, I just don't like people making remarks about stuff I do.
my fault that that got out of hand.
luke0
09-01-2003, 12:13 PM
hay is the site ready yet?:confused: :confused:
my page is about trains
blake
09-01-2003, 04:20 PM
you can use www.web1000.com
it's a free webhosting without any ads or pop-ups
blake
09-01-2003, 04:24 PM
I forgot to say that they have UNLIMITED bandwidth
GavinPearce
09-01-2003, 04:24 PM
luke your accounts setup.
all sent by email, done it ages ago, but as you still havn't replied, thought I'd post here and try. Not going to post your password though, but its the one you asked for.
GavinPearce
09-01-2003, 04:28 PM
while I'm not saying that its a bad host. ANy free host is worth the money, but never pay for unlimited bandwidth. Ask anyone at WHT. (www.webhostingtalk.com). Nobody can offer unlimited bandwidth, as they have to pay for the bandwidth themselves. But as it's free you can't ever moan..
PeOfEo
09-01-2003, 04:31 PM
Well one thing hosts can do is they can say unlimited bandwidth and not cap the bandwidth but then they can limit file sizes and types to keep you from using big grapix or running a download site, it stops them from having to cap all functions after a certain limit has been reached but keeps you from running the mp3 download emporium.
GavinPearce
09-01-2003, 04:34 PM
:)
luke0
09-02-2003, 04:09 AM
is it ready:D :D :D :D :D
luke0
09-02-2003, 04:11 AM
how do i update my site:confused:
GavinPearce
09-03-2003, 04:53 PM
I'm sorry but I'm removing your hosting account.
right I set him up with a free account, something i don't normally do, just because he's my age and I know what it can be like. I gave him ftp access and unmetered space and bandwidth practically because it wasn't going to lock anywhere.
He just couldn't unstand teh concept of FTP. I kept telling him to download various FTP clients and he kept going, I went to teh ftp and couldn't find anything and it said anoymous and blah de blah lol.
So I had enough of him bugging me about that, because he was to lazy to find out about ftp, so I gave him cpanel access. How many hosts can offer u free cpanel? Lol, I thought at last some peace. But then he said it still wasn't going, so I checked, and of course it was going, so it must have been something he done. Actually at one point he was using the wrong password.
However the final straw was an e-mail I recieved just a minute ago.
im giving you one more chance
i did not work i need a site that works
im giving you 2 day thats friday
there was some angry pictures in that as well lol. Sorry but as he hadn't already uploaded anything I just decided to give up all together. How dare someone I'm doing a huge favor for, something that I wouldn't normally undertake threaten me lol.
2 more days lol, as if I care if I lose a free customer. His loss not mine.
Now if this was a paying customer, of course different views would be in hand, but his attitude really pissed me off. Lots of things do.
BTW no more free hosting lol.
Jupac
09-03-2003, 07:34 PM
Your my new best friend. Make peofeo look like an idiot a few more times, please please please?!?!? (hehehehe)
I guses ur not his best friend any more and i told u guys PeOfEo wasnt an Idiot
luke0
09-04-2003, 04:51 AM
i did not work:mad: :mad: :mad:
i need a site
:mad: :mad: :mad:
lol ha ha
GavinPearce
09-04-2003, 10:59 AM
I didnt agree with him saying I was his best friend.
You'd get a lot further luke if you said could I have hosting, rather than i NEED hosting.
Anyway, it works just fine, I know for certain it does.
You just couldn't be bothered to learn about FTP, and when I gave you cpanel, one of the most powerful hosting tools ever you couldn't be bothered to try and learn it. All the information was there if you needed it.
Lol, I didn't say PeOfEo was an idiot, we just disagreed on a few points.
:D
Anywayz, all's well that ends well. :p
PeOfEo
09-04-2003, 05:59 PM
Sux0rZh@jc0rz said you made me look like an idiot or something. Luke0 ftp is increadably easy to use man, all you have to do is type the url of your ftp folder into ie6 or a windows xp folder address bar, then it will prompt you for the pass and you login and then its just like useing a normal folder, whats there to not know?
Jupac
09-04-2003, 06:29 PM
lol ok:D :D :D
Sux0rZh@jc0rz
09-04-2003, 11:00 PM
that doesnt work with windows 98. i have latest IE browser so don't say its cause of that.
Sux0rZh@jc0rz
09-04-2003, 11:06 PM
Luke is a kid who doesn't want to spend time learning the stuff. he wants results. Im kinda like that but with way more patience. (I haven't mastered anything yet. to lazy to learn.)
But I have learned a lot about what im doing/trying to do. but of course im 14 and hes 12 so theres a difference there.
PeOfEo
09-04-2003, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Sux0rZh@jc0rz
Luke is a kid who doesn't want to spend time learning the stuff. he wants results. Im kinda like that but with way more patience. (I haven't mastered anything yet. to lazy to learn.)
But I have learned a lot about what im doing/trying to do. but of course im 14 and hes 12 so theres a difference there. FTP is not hard to use, I was useing it when I was 14 so there is really no excuse, it is much more conveniant then using an interface in the longrun and he did not even want to learn that. Also, I can do the ftp with windows 98 through a folder with ie 5.3 I do it at school all the time (well I used to ftp headers were recently blocked) so either your comp is messed up or you are doing it wrong because I have done it on 98 before.
Sux0rZh@jc0rz
09-04-2003, 11:40 PM
beats me. I did a system wipe with win98 reinstall cause i got a trojan that replicated itself all over my HD and none of my antivirus softwares could get rid of it cause it would reinstall itself once it was activated in any way(which included deleteing it) It was a nasty virus.
Anyways mayby I missed a download or something that does the ftp.
PeOfEo
09-04-2003, 11:43 PM
A trojan is a back doo that lets a hacker onto your computer and allows him to have access to your files. If you have one in the future I would go to www.astalavista.com they had a good trojan scanner / quarantiner there.
Sux0rZh@jc0rz
09-04-2003, 11:46 PM
Yes well spybot is the same. I just didnt have it when i had the virus... i had norton and the trojan copied itself into nortons file(which is automatically exempted from the scan) I actually have the trojan now saved for a later time should I meet someone who likes to hack other people. (its not active on my system. its zip'd and binded to a server package)
Sux0rZh@jc0rz
09-04-2003, 11:47 PM
Also: I know what a trojan is, thank you;)
PeOfEo
09-04-2003, 11:55 PM
You obviously dont know what a trojan is. A trojan has two parts, a client and a server end. You send the server to someone you dont like and then in the client end you type their ip (which you probably got by directly connecting to them and useing the dos keyword netstat) and it will pickup the signle of the server end and you can access their files. You can send them the server end to someone later sure but you cannot use it without knowing their ip and having the client end of the trojan on your comp. Also a trojan does not copy its self or do anything of that nature, it simply lets a hacker onto your comp. What you had was a seed virus, there is a big difference.
Sux0rZh@jc0rz
09-05-2003, 12:05 AM
well i was shaking my head until the line of the seed virus. I know all that about trojans but i didnt know that one is called a seed-virus trojan and one a typical trojan. The rest, I knew. check out http://www.areyoufearless.com/index.php for some good learning/downloads. Thats where I get my info. I just didnt know the part about them being 2 different classes of trojan.
PeOfEo
09-05-2003, 12:07 AM
A seed virus is not a trojan at all, its a virus. A trojan is simply a backdoor onto your computer. A virus is a program that can harm your computer.
Sux0rZh@jc0rz
09-05-2003, 12:12 AM
well damnit it was a trojan that was self-replicating because norton classified it as a trojan and http://www.broadbandreports.com/secureme_go said I had an open port while I had the trojan and once I reinstalled windows the port was closed. So HAZA!
PeOfEo
09-05-2003, 12:17 AM
Maybe someone sent you a trojan and sent a virus through the back door... humm?
Sux0rZh@jc0rz
09-05-2003, 12:19 AM
the trojan would have been deleted then and the backdoor would no longer have been there when i tested it. (I tested b4 and after doing nortons cleanup
PeOfEo
09-05-2003, 12:21 AM
If they have a trojan / backdoor on your comp its like direct connect, how are you going to detect it? Also if they sent you a seed virus chancer are its going to get norton fast in a simple little file and spread to your restore (xp and me only) and then screw up any browsers you have. I had the w32klez virus, it was just like that, took me 3 hours to get rid of, had to download norton ie and mozilla all over again after that ordeal was over because tey were just about complely screwed up.
Sux0rZh@jc0rz
09-05-2003, 12:36 AM
I already mentioned a way to detect it in a previous post. My IE may have been affected but it wasn't nuked. so the applet that searches for open ports still worked.
Angelochar
09-05-2003, 02:03 AM
If you are looking for free web space, check out 100megsfree5.com. I use them and they are pretty good if you don't mind a static banner at top of page.
Don't get this confused with 100megsfree Remember to add the '5' at the end of free. :-)
GavinPearce
09-05-2003, 01:39 PM
Luke is a kid who doesn't want to spend time learning the stuff. he wants results. Im kinda like that but with way more patience. (I haven't mastered anything yet. to lazy to learn.)
But I have learned a lot about what im doing/trying to do. but of course im 14 and hes 12 so theres a difference there.
I was using FTP at 11. I don't remember my first hosting account, over 5 years ago now, but it was an online file manager, but straight after that we went on Freeserver so I used there hosting, only ftp access was allowed at the time lol. Lol freeserve, seems so long ago, and so rubbish, i thought it was grat at the time :p
I'm 14 now anyway so age is no problem with anything, it can never be used as an excuse.
Things like
I'm only 14 can you help me with....
Does it matter that your only 14? Learn. I did. I ain't no boff either. I spend more time up town than anything else lol. I do DJin as a hobby, music tech instrests me loads.
Just LEARN people for gods sake. Read, read, read, search google, look stuff up, there IS something out there, you just gotta get over being lazy. You can't be successful being lazy!
I know run a hosting company ok, so in the space of 4 years, from hosting my site on freeserve, to running my own hosting company. You just got to put in the effort, it doesn't need a lot of time. I just check my emails a few times daily, thats about it online now days. Post on here if I do ever get some free time, but I'm nearly always out with ma mates somewhere. Terrorising tourists lol. To many tourists in my town, think they own da place. But I'm going off topic. Luke if you wanted free hosting that was good, u could have easy found out about FTP. Download an FTP client if it doesn't work in IE, incredibly easy to use and learn. I use WS FTP but Cute FTP, Terrapin FTP are fine. WS FTP is good because it's free though.
patience is a very good thing to have also aggreeing with Sux0rZh.
I've posted some long posts on this topic :D something i obvouusly have a lot of point on lol ;)
Anyway, thats my pennys worth.
Anyone my age though (who can be bothered that is lol) add me to messenger: javagavin@hotmail.com i'm thinking of creating a site made my everyone under 16, and make it hit big time, I have a good advertising deal in a paper here in the UK, so might be able to do something good I hope.
:)
PeOfEo
09-05-2003, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Sux0rZh@jc0rz
I already mentioned a way to detect it in a previous post. My IE may have been affected but it wasn't nuked. so the applet that searches for open ports still worked. A trojan its self does not harm your computer, its the hacker that uses the trojan. A trojan is used so a hacker can access your files and send you files. Trojans are not designed to duplicate themselves and destroy files, that would be a worm or a virus. There is a posibility that you got a trojan and the hacker sent you a virus throught the open port though.
luke0
09-06-2003, 02:14 AM
yo you dudes of mine how is it going
aoeguy
09-06-2003, 04:46 AM
http://tiscali.ch
Free hosting, 20MB with FTP access and NO ADS and you can get free email
GavinPearce
09-06-2003, 04:58 AM
Dont offer him ftp, he can't be bothered. :rolleyes:
PeOfEo
09-06-2003, 12:50 PM
that site is all in german... Its hard to read.
neil9999
09-06-2003, 01:27 PM
aoeguy - there's a new translator now for Alta vista Babel Fish, which translates into more languages. PeOfEo - to translate a webpage go to
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr.
Neil
luke0
09-06-2003, 02:35 PM
no ftp site thank you
GavinPearce
09-06-2003, 03:07 PM
lol
PeOfEo
09-06-2003, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by neil9999
aoeguy - there's a new translator now for Alta vista Babel Fish, which translates into more languages. PeOfEo - to translate a webpage go to
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr.
Neil I know what babel fish is, and because of it my grades in spanish sucked, it translated something from spanish to english and it was like the man get a tapeworm from his hamburger in englich but the spanis said he works in a hanburger factory, nothing about tapeworms, my teacher read it and was like what the crap
Sux0rZh@jc0rz
09-06-2003, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by PeOfEo
A trojan its self does not harm your computer, its the hacker that uses the trojan. A trojan is used so a hacker can access your files and send you files. Trojans are not designed to duplicate themselves and destroy files, that would be a worm or a virus. There is a posibility that you got a trojan and the hacker sent you a virus throught the open port though.
grrrr....My computer didnt get harmed. All that happened was the trojan replicated itself to use up my resources and to keep itself on my system long enough for the hacker to try and get whatever info he was searching for(I played asheronscall when this was going on so he MIGHT have known me and was trying to get my account password, or he was just looking for billing info that might have been on my computer.)
Ergo: it didnt do harm. just replicated itself. Not a worm/virus. Trojan. Get it? Trojan. Stop saying its not a trojan.
Sux0rZh@jc0rz
09-07-2003, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by luke0
no ftp site thank you
So....what you want is a hosting page with a telepathic uploader of the files... right? WHAT THE HELL YOU GONNA USE BESIDES FTP??!?!?! Geocities or something? eh? eh? built in page editors or something? they dont exist! well, not on free sites with no ads and unlimited bandwidth.
Also: FTP isnt something you learn. you just open the program and put ur web addy, username, password, connect, and move files from your computer to the host! that edits the webpages. what you mean is you can't be bothered to learn html and javascript so that you can make the pages that will be uploaded to the web.
PeOfEo
09-07-2003, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by Sux0rZh@jc0rz
Ergo: it didnt do harm. just replicated itself. Not a worm/virus. Trojan. Get it? Trojan. Stop saying its not a trojan. Trojans do not replicate themselves, they do not need to, if your anti virus can pick up the trojan as it enters then why the heck would it need to replicate. The people that code these things look for a small size so that antivirus systems wont catch them, they dont add fancy little replication scripts that would probably just cause errors anyway. I have never seen or read anything about trojans doing this so I am very doubtful that they would, how do you know it was only a trojan, trojans do not damage your stuff hackers that use them do, but like I said a hacker cna use one to put a virus on your comp which can replicate its self.
Sux0rZh@jc0rz
09-07-2003, 01:36 AM
If I download something, my scanner isnt going to find it until i do a scan.(my scanners anyway) so it replicated itself into the exclude list and when i did a scan and picked it up i deleted it but then it kept coming back until i did the windows reinstall. my guess is the reason it replicates itself is to draw attention from the fact that it was actually in my exclude list. Trojans are made by humans and some humans are born without the gift of intelligence some of us are blessed with. so they create a stupid trojan that does crap it doesnt even need to. Its just stupid, like the blaster virus, ****ty design just made to annoy. not really doing any major damage.
PeOfEo
09-07-2003, 01:44 AM
I think the blaster did what it was designed to do perfectly. Waste the time of those who dont know anything about comps and point out a huge security flaw on windows xp me and w2k3 server. I am glad my host who uses w2k3 server did not get the virus thought, that coulda been some downtime. They have a pretty good firewall and real time anti virus thought and get the definitions right away and the patch as soon as it was available.
Sux0rZh@jc0rz
09-07-2003, 01:53 AM
so they create a stupid trojan that does crap it doesnt even need to. Its just stupid, like the blaster virus, ****ty design just made to annoy. not really doing any major damage.
Its just stupid, like the blaster virus, ****ty design just made to annoy. not really doing any major damage.
Its just stupid ... Made to annoy ... not really major damage
Made to annoy ... not really major damage
Made to annoy
READ!!!
PeOfEo
09-07-2003, 02:00 AM
It didnt just annoy it pointed out security problems with ms, and besides annoying it wasted tons of time and tons of money, especially when it got into corperate networks, it started delaying css trains because it get on all the csxt computers. Thats a lot of money wasted. Ever think the affects could be felt outside of the computer that has it. Think outside of the box █
Sux0rZh@jc0rz
09-07-2003, 02:05 AM
Sure. trains stop moving 1-4 days out of 365 days in a year. thats a 0.010958904_ profit loss, which is only if all the people from that day canceled. most probly just rescheduled.
and i know it did cause some damage. IT JUIST WASNT MAJOR. 911: thats major. Blackouts: thats major. Suicide bombers: thats major. losing the remote: thats major. but the blaster incident was just annoying. nothing MAJOR happened. major compared to the small sh!t that goes on mayby but still it wasnt MAJOR if you look at the big picture.
PeOfEo
09-07-2003, 02:08 AM
You think that my school getting it and us not being able to use our comps all day becuase a person from the county had to come and fix them because the people in the office did not know what they were doing and did not let us fix it when we could have done it in 5 min is not major? We were learning off of an overhead in ap comp sci for 2 days, that is extremly annoying. Also if css cant move trains they dont just loose money the people who need products are loosing money, their trains ship a large volume of coal if that doesn't get shiped will your power plant run? If your grocery store has food on a train and its sitting there will you be able to see it by the sell by date? There are many other scenarios.
Sux0rZh@jc0rz
09-07-2003, 02:21 AM
I don't care. Tired of argueing with you. I'll say it. I DONT GIVE A COW'S LEFT NUT! you just LOVE to argue with me! STOP IT!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Sux0rZh@jc0rz
09-07-2003, 02:25 AM
I'm mature for my age but you have pushed me to the limit. leave me alone and stop argueing with me. I care about all those people I do, but you just over-elaborate everything. all that doesnt matter in the overall experience of life. it just annoys us. you have twisted what i said so that its a big deal off topic of what we started out with in the first place. I said, IT ANNOYS. you said: well what if you dont get your milk and cookies?(not included the coal part cause power plants are smart enough to keep reserve supplies. you should think before you post.) well I say, ITS ANNOYING! WHAA! I DONT HAVE MY MILK AND COOKIES! ITS ANNOYING. now cease to exist. stop posting in this thread. (you can post else-where, you just piss me off on this one=P )
luke0
09-07-2003, 04:15 AM
a bit like angelfire
if you want a the pass and user please messenger me
only people i known ok
:o :o :o :o
lukes_trains@hotmail.com
PeOfEo
09-07-2003, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by Sux0rZh@jc0rz
I'm mature for my age but you have pushed me to the limit. Lol, I beg to differ about the mature part. The reason I debate with you (I would not call it argueing because I have not said anything about your mom yet :)) Is because I like to present different ideas and different viewpoints.
GavinPearce
09-07-2003, 08:33 AM
lol people lets keep this toned down a bit.
Deep breaths again.
Originally posted by luke0
a bit like angelfire
if you want a the pass and user please messenger me
only people i known ok
:o :o :o :o
lukes_trains@hotmail.com
Now what is Luke on about?
luke0
09-07-2003, 08:56 AM
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that works dude
GavinPearce
09-07-2003, 09:00 AM
NOOOO!! AHH!! SCREAM!!! ANYTHING!! PLEASE GOD JUST LET ME HIT HIM!!!! ONCE!!!!
Ok calm down me.
Can u ban some1 from here for being to stupid?
AdamBrill
09-07-2003, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by gavinnet
Can u ban some1 from here for being to stupid? You want to get banned? Or were you trying to be extremely rude and call someone else stupid?
luke0, try http://www.free-host.com/ They have Web Based File Management, so you don't have to worry about using FTP. However, if you don't want to learn anything, then I highly doubt that you are going to be able to figure out the Web Based File Management, either. I would suggest that you wait to make a site until you are willing to learn whatever it takes to create your site...
GavinPearce
09-07-2003, 10:37 AM
Hey calm down lol.
I was calling myself stupid for being wound up so easy. And no I don't want to get banned lol, I was jus saying.
PeOfEo
09-07-2003, 12:27 PM
Debating something peacfully and having a disaggreement and talking it out is one thing, but when ppl start insulting others then it is argueing and it needs to stop, thats where the boundry is for future reference.
luke0
09-08-2003, 03:23 AM
thanks adam i will try that :D