How ironic is this?

[bustya]

webdeveloper's validation results (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.webdeveloper.com%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&ss=1&group=0)

Here's a few other popular sites' results:

Yahoo (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahoo.com%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&ss=1&group=0)

Google (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&ss=1&group=0)

MySpace (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myspace.com%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&ss=1&group=0)

It would be REALLY ironic if this one failed:

w3.org (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fw3.org&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&ss=1&group=0)

[drhowarddrfine]

I questioned webdeveloper before and was told it's because they get this forum software from someone else. Google is trying to get better, and in many cases they have. Yahoo doesn't have much of an excuse. MySpace has been a joke from the first day.

Rarely will you catch w3.org with a validation error, and it's usually a typo they quickly fix.

[WebJoel]

w3.org still uses TABLE-based layout, transitional. I guess that they have such a legacy database going back a couple of decades now that to fully change to the standards that they propose, they'd be losing all their marbles. I guess that 'any new builds' should be built 'to the recommended standards'. Not necessarily 'take this 10 or 20-years old site and re-create it to 2007's standards'... I can just see old IBM's "UNIVAC" key-punch cards being re-created to be xhtml with css... (I can hear the 2001:A Space Odyssey computer H.A.L.'s voice saying "I can't do that, Dave"...)
"H.A.L." by the way, is one letter different each, from "I.B.M." That was an intentional jab at 'em..

[drhowarddrfine]

w3.org still uses TABLE-based layout, transitional.
They do not. They use tables appropriately but, if you look at their homepage, there is not a table in site. I just now clicked around a few other pages and still haven't found a table used.

They encourage xhtml usage, as well as semantically correct markup. In fact, they use xhtml 1.0 strict.