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Dark Dragon
09-07-2003, 12:35 PM
Nuts and Rats!!! I uploaded my site after working on the coding and all..and when I tried to have it validated, a whole bleepin' list of things were found.
Anyways, I have CSS Rollover link in the text on my About Page which is supposed to link here, the same link appears on my page of links and that one works just fine but this one doesn't, anyone know why?
Here is the link..www.geocities.com/blackwaltz12
And yes I know my site appears "amateurish amd stupid but that is hardly the point right now. Thanks!
Oh..and why isn't my "main" page appearing in the main window like it is supposed to be???? :D
GavinPearce
09-07-2003, 02:38 PM
On the about page your linking to http://forum.webdeveloper.com. Missing the s off forums.
On the links page you have it right with http://forums.webdeveloper.com
Easy mistake, done it myself! :D
The main page bit looks fine to me. :confused:
AdamBrill
09-07-2003, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by gavinnet
The main page bit looks fine to me. :confused: Did you try validating it? It didn't look very "fine" to me when I sent it through the validator... ;) Anyway, most of your problems are coming from the fact that you didn't use CSS. You used the attributes in HTML instead, many of which are not HTML 4.01 compatable. Another thing is you didn't use a frameset doctype on your index page. Take a look at this: http://www.webdevfaqs.com/html.php
GavinPearce
09-07-2003, 02:48 PM
I meant to the eye it looked fine in IE 6. Nothing out of place.
Dark Dragon
09-07-2003, 03:06 PM
Oh..okay. Thanks
Did you try validating it? It didn't look very "fine" to me when I sent it through the validator.
Yes I did indeed run it through a validator and it came up with a whole slew of problems...I used HTML and the only CSS I used as for the Rollover effect..so I do not understand why the whole site needs to be done in CSS..considering I wanted it to be HTML valid...not CSS.
And many browsers do not interpret CSS so I wanted to reduce that pain....so I was unaware that CSS and HTML were the same thing...
AdamBrill
09-07-2003, 03:30 PM
HTML and CSS are not the same thing, but they work together. Since you are supposed to use CSS for all of those things, they depreciated the HTML way of doing it. Thus, when you validate your page, it tells you to get rid of all of those tags, since it should be done in CSS. The only way to make it validate is to get rid of all of those things and use the CSS alternative... I hope this helps to make you understand... :)
BTW, browser support for CSS really isn't that bad...
Dark Dragon
09-07-2003, 03:38 PM
Well, I don't understand all these tags...
I tried using the suggestions that I got from places like the O'Reilly site and such..I was really careful too but it appears that most sites are wrong on the tag thing...W3schools is totally bogus and just about every site I have visited has steered me completly wrong...Rats!
Most sites are still programmed like it is in the 90's... They need to get with the picture! Your best bet will be to just learn which tags/attributes are valid, and which are not, from http://www.w3.org/TR/html401. Also, as AdamBrill stated, the reason a large number of those attributes are deprecated is in favor of css (http://w3.org/TR/css2). HTML was never meant to be used to control the way the page looked, simply the way the page was marked up (<h1> means that that part is the main header on your page [and <h2>, <h3>, etc. are subheaders], not that it is large text, as so many use it for... Same with other tags...)
Dark Dragon
09-07-2003, 04:04 PM
Sighs...oh well..and I worked hard on that site too! Unfortunately I am not a programmer so when I looked at the explanation of the errors found..I just didn't get it!
The explanations made little sense...well, thanks everyone for your help...I guess I will just have to keep plugging away..maybe
spufi
09-07-2003, 05:22 PM
Well good luck in getting a Geocities site to validate anyway since Geocities doesn't know how to insert it's own code, and it's even invalid anyway. I would use a Tans. Doctype and make sure your pages are valid before you upload them. W3C's validator lets you check files on your PC.
Dark Dragon
09-07-2003, 06:01 PM
Well, Geocities is one of the few free places that has that File Manager thing where you can use a web based thing to upload.
I used to have Tripod but I quit because they are so slow and many parts of their site experience malfunctions..So I guess I should look for something better perhaps.