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Dark Dragon
09-10-2003, 05:07 PM
I can't believe I didn't see this one earlier, I was reading through the DW book because I wanted to have my image links next to my iFrame so a user with a smaller screen doesn't have to scroll downwards..

Then I seen this thing about being able to draw Layout Tables or something..so I tried it and it turns out to be what I needed. I tried making a simple table and putting the iFrame in one cell but it didn't work..but this layout table did.

My Intelligence Meter just went up an eight of a point today! :D

PeOfEo
09-10-2003, 05:29 PM
You should have no problem putting an iframe in a table cell, but the draw table thing is kind of lame why cant you just raw code your tables or better yet ditch them and use css. Using a program like dreamweaver is good because you can learn proper code syntax and the intellitext is great but when you start using all that user graphical stuff you are not learning a darned thing and it isnt helping you at all.

Dark Dragon
09-10-2003, 05:49 PM
but the draw table thing is kind of lame why cant you just raw code your tables or better yet ditch them and use css.

Because I do not want to do all that coding by hand, that's why.

I like to have a readily available, graphical representation of my progress so I can see more readily where a problem is.

Does that make me stupid? I suppose so.
Not all of us can do all this hand coding stuff..I am pleased you can do it but don't put me down because of what I use, okay?

And another thing, just because I use Editors doesn't mean I am not learning anything...so please don't add another insult, thanks.

Besides, I used the Layout thing because I needed something specific and I didn't want to use a nested table either.

Dark Dragon
09-10-2003, 05:58 PM
:o

If I appeared harsh..that wasn't my intent. I realize you are trying to help however we all learn in different ways...some like to type away while some, like myself, like to have a graphical view of the progress so I can see upcomming problems.

However this in no way means one doesn't learn anything though.

I think I have learned a few things too but I still prefer using a graphic based web program like DreamWeaver.

PeOfEo
09-10-2003, 09:54 PM
I was not trying to insult you but tables are not hard to use, its just <tr><td></td></tr><tr><td></td></tr> Its very logical the way they are designed the drawback to using them is they are more work. I can see why someone would want to draw one if they had a large data table with like 50 entries, but I mean if you are using tables for layout stop right now and move to css, tables suck, I used to use them but now that i have started using css its a whole lot nicer. Trust me tables are the wrong thing to use.

Dark Dragon
09-11-2003, 10:44 AM
Well..what I needed was to have my iFrame on one side of the screen and have the menu for it right along side of it so that anyone with smaller screens don't have to scroll, and the only way I could do that was using a table.

And my table was going to be kinda odd...one side would have one big cell and the other half would have more cells...but I do agree that using a table for overall layout isn't all that great.

But yeah, I have already seen that HTML tables can be a bit limiting.