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johnrd53
03-07-2008, 07:58 PM
Hi everyone. guess i need to know quickest way to build traffic if sending emails from a list broker is ok, if enough people will even open them? or is google ads and search engine placement better? thanks in advance

marketraise
03-08-2008, 02:07 AM
There are numerous ways to build traffic and increase the amount of visitors to your website.What really matters is the amount of time that these visitors spend on your website.For that to happen you should have excellent content that is completely fresh and original.All in all the quality of the website is important.

edit by admin: stop link dropping.

tobiaseichner
03-09-2008, 09:41 AM
As marketraise pointed out: Content is everything.

It is more important to provide attractive contents to a handful of visitors than bringing thousands of people to your site for nothing.

sending emails from a list broker is ok

Please don't use such marketing methods. UCE (spam) is a poor effort and every cent you pay to such list brokers or mailing services is better spent at Google AdWords or similar advertising networks.

A good method to bind people to your website and business is to run an own affiliate program and sending newsletters out to people really want to get them from your company (use a mailing list manager for your website to collect e-mail addresses, for example). But you must see this on the long run, there is no easy way to bring your website under the top-10 visited places (if this is your goal ;-)

CoderGuru
03-27-2008, 03:14 AM
But you must see this on the long run, there is no easy way to bring your website under the top-10 visited places (if this is your goal ;-)

I wouldn't quite say that... Simply research the history of how myspace.com started. From their parent companies countless lawsuits for spywar, including one that cost them several million dollars to admit no wrong doing to their original campaigns that included mailing to millions of users on lists gathered from other sites.

Not saying it is a smart move, nor do I even suggest marketing to paid email lists, but it sure can have benefits. If not, we wouldn't all get so much spam.
If you go that route *make sure* to follow CAN-SPAM and research other local laws. Not a best business practice to start by breaking FTC laws.

As for AdSense, it is an amazing tool, just make sure you do you're research. You can easily see your investment deplete if you don't watch your ROI or run software to stop click fraud.

As for other ways, it all really depends on your market. AdSense surely isn't the best way if your starting, say a social market with little start up funds. If your going after a specific product such as sponge candy in buffalo ny, targeting "Sponge Candy Buffalo" wouldn't be such a bad idea.

Theirs a lot of books out there that will help you learn more about SEO and buying paid keyword placement. I can suggest some to you in the AM cause my books are in the other room, but like I said it all comes down to what you are actually marketing and making sure you watch your return on invest.

If you would like to talk about other possible options or I forget to post the books, you can always IM me on my AIM CoderGuruInc. I am always willing to help others, though I just signed up here today so might not read it alot.

Have a great night =]

root123
04-05-2008, 12:37 AM
If it's only traffic you are looking for in shortest possible time then you can go for PPC advertising (http://root123.blogspot.com/2008/01/cpa-vs-cpc-cpm.html).....

SEO_guru
05-02-2008, 10:36 AM
The Can Spam act, as well as the rules for spam from all of the major email service providers specifically say that your mailing list should be made up of people who have previously chosen to receive your email. SO where did the list come from? How can they guarantee that everyone on the list asked in advance, to recieve information you are sending them?

List brokers are a blight on business marketing - I don't care how much junk ultimately generates money for business owners - it's a terrible service that society needs to banish.

Ogranic search engine optimization, Google AdWords, Writing articles for legitimate related web sites (not for article web sites designed to get you links), submitting press releases through services like PRWeb.com, getting links back to the site from well established legitimate web sites and directories (not link farms!) - these are the best approaches, and less likely to do you harm.



There's smart marketing then there's brute force questionable ethics marketing.

I have no respect for list brokers.

honestman
05-02-2008, 12:14 PM
I do not have much experience in this area but would be careful about making the right choices

dursh871
06-10-2008, 11:42 PM
if you're going to do email marketing, I would suggest to use one of the big marketing companies like Viralytics Media or Dopel Direct who specialize in opt-in marketing.

omega113
06-11-2008, 02:43 AM
Johnrd53:

Traffic building techniques varies with the type of website you wanna promote.

If you could post your website link it would be useful for us to answer you.

tobiaseichner
06-11-2008, 07:39 AM
Content is everything to attract visitors :-) If you consider this advise, you did the half way to success.

If you buy address lists from a secure source that really does opt-in only, you are on the safe side as well. In addition, you may start your own newsletter subscription services on your website. Collecting addresses this way, is much more targeted than buying them in bulk (but of course, takes some time).

donatello
06-19-2008, 06:42 PM
I wouldn't quite say that... Simply research the history of how myspace.com started. From their parent companies countless lawsuits for spywar, including one that cost them several million dollars to admit no wrong doing to their original campaigns that included mailing to millions of users on lists gathered from other sites.

Not saying it is a smart move, nor do I even suggest marketing to paid email lists, but it sure can have benefits. If not, we wouldn't all get so much spam.
If you go that route *make sure* to follow CAN-SPAM and research other local laws. Not a best business practice to start by breaking FTC laws.

As for AdSense, it is an amazing tool, just make sure you do you're research. You can easily see your investment deplete if you don't watch your ROI or run software to stop click fraud.

As for other ways, it all really depends on your market. AdSense surely isn't the best way if your starting, say a social market with little start up funds. If your going after a specific product such as sponge candy in buffalo ny, targeting "Sponge Candy Buffalo" wouldn't be such a bad idea.

Theirs a lot of books out there that will help you learn more about SEO and buying paid keyword placement. I can suggest some to you in the AM cause my books are in the other room, but like I said it all comes down to what you are actually marketing and making sure you watch your return on invest.

If you would like to talk about other possible options or I forget to post the books, you can always IM me on my AIM CoderGuruInc. I am always willing to help others, though I just signed up here today so might not read it alot.

Have a great night =]

You mentioned Click-Fraud software? Can you name some names?

LeeU
06-20-2008, 04:50 PM
You mentioned Click-Fraud software? Can you name some names?
Don't highjack the thread. Please open a new one.

donatello
06-21-2008, 07:52 AM
Don't highjack the thread. Please open a new one.
Sorry.
I did start a new thread.
My bad. :(

bluestartech
06-21-2008, 02:12 PM
PPC is certainly best way to generate immediate volumes of traffic...but natural seo is by far better in the long run and a lot cheaper but takes a lot more time

WebJoel
06-27-2008, 08:17 AM
....from a list broker ARRgh!! Avoid! These people buy-up expired or abandoned domains, take them over and fill them with thousands and thousands of indexable, non-sensical keywords ranging from medical science, movies, actors, nature, language, studies, college, sports, hobbies, computers, hardware, gardening, blogging, etc... nothing is sacrosanct. Not sentences, nothing is structured meaningful, these are just WORDS seperated by commas and a few 'Header tags' for good measure. Then, they privledge to insert 'paid member's URLs' randomly into the content. As an "inline link", this is of higher value to Googlebot etc., and a searcher that happens to be searching a 'word' or 'term' that is close to that site's placement of the URL for you, the visitor might get shown or taken (redirected) to your site.... a 'hit'. You MAY get "...thousand of Google hits per month" as one major offender claims, -but if you studied the analytics on how long the average 'stay' is, you would discover that it is "UNDER ONE MINUTE" meaning that these hapless people landed there by mistake, and they IMMEDIATELY backed-out, not interested in your site whatsoever. You don't want to waste your $30 or $40.oo that many list-brokers ask for, on this kind of 'traffic building' scheme. You want visitors whom are LOOKING for you/your site/your product, etc.

Avoid list brokers. They mostly scam.

donatello
06-28-2008, 04:36 AM
ARRgh!! Avoid! These people buy-up expired or abandoned domains, take them over and fill them with thousands and thousands of indexable, non-sensical keywords ranging from medical science, movies, actors, nature, language, studies, college, sports, hobbies, computers, hardware, gardening, blogging, etc... nothing is sacrosanct. Not sentences, nothing is structured meaningful, these are just WORDS seperated by commas and a few 'Header tags' for good measure. Then, they privledge to insert 'paid member's URLs' randomly into the content. As an "inline link", this is of higher value to Googlebot etc., and a searcher that happens to be searching a 'word' or 'term' that is close to that site's placement of the URL for you, the visitor might get shown or taken (redirected) to your site.... a 'hit'. You MAY get "...thousand of Google hits per month" as one major offender claims, -but if you studied the analytics on how long the average 'stay' is, you would discover that it is "UNDER ONE MINUTE" meaning that these hapless people landed there by mistake, and they IMMEDIATELY backed-out, not interested in your site whatsoever. You don't want to waste your $30 or $40.oo that many list-brokers ask for, on this kind of 'traffic building' scheme. You want visitors whom are LOOKING for you/your site/your product, etc.

Avoid list brokers. They mostly scam.

Thanks for that. I was wondering how they did that.

I once saw an ad (dozens of them actually) on Google for "blazing traffic" or somesuch. They only charged something like $15.00 for 10,000 hits, so I figured I would buy it to find out how they did it.

The traffic started coming, slowly at first and began to build - just as promised. I went into my analytics and it showed these hits coming from servers all over Russia. They stayed 0 seconds on the page and immediately left.

At first, I thought that a service like this might use popunders - which would be useless enough with Russians (most of whom do not speak English). But in a further analysis, these could not have been anything but bot-generated 'hits'.

So in effect, I had paid for a slow-rolling, building "DNS Attack" disguised as traffic.

I wrote these crooks a nasty letter demanding an immediate refund, and wrote PayPal the same letter. Within about 2 hours (really!) my money was refunded and this 'traffic' stopped.

franklinn
01-18-2012, 01:01 AM
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You can increase by doing the article submission, directory submission, adding keywords etc.,
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Clarkjackson
01-18-2012, 03:27 AM
If you looking for a hug amount of traffic from search engiens there is only two way tot it.


Paid advertisement
Organic Ranking


What is your budget ?

deepakg
01-19-2012, 07:02 AM
If you really want your product to reach targeted audience then I would advice you to go for SEO instead of doing PPC because SEO help in achieving long term goals. With SEO drive you can bring traffic to your website in a regular, natural and affordable manner on the other hand if you choose PPC then you have to pay huge amount.

alanpoly
01-19-2012, 10:54 AM
Getting traffic is one of the most important tasks for any web master. What is more, you can't get traffic once and then just reap the benefits. Getting traffic is an ongoing task and you must be constantly doing it, if you want to get traffic and keep it

laarnihughes
01-20-2012, 12:57 AM
Go to social sites, join and participate in there. You can share your favorite links, opinions and more just be nice to people.

neon84
01-21-2012, 01:12 AM
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allen112
01-21-2012, 02:26 PM
You need to be search engine optimized. You will have to decide what keywords that you want to go after. You will then need to get a domain. It will be best if you can name your domain with the keyword that you are wanting to go after. Once you do this, promote your domain, and stop directly promoting your affiliate site.