Firefox 2.0.0.12 OS10.5

[knowj]

Is anyone having any trouble with the build as mine keep crashing out when I am just generally browsing on basic HTML sites (webdeveloper being on of them)

[Jick]

Firefox works just fine for me. But I'm on Windows. So I couldn't really say for your OS. But, I would assume it should work just fine. They do extensive testing on many OS's before they release a new version so I doubt it could be Firefox. Perhaps you have a corrupted install... Have you tried reinstalling Firefox? Also, have you tried running Firefox in safe mode? If it works in safe mode then it could be the fault of an extension you have installed (provided you actually do have any extensions installed). Maybe you could also run a virus and adware scan. These are all things that could contribute to your problem.

[knowj]

Virus on a mac LOL thats very unlikely.

I have just been on the phone to one of my mates and apparently FF2 has memory issues on OSX which seems to have been fixed in FF3.

Cheers for the input anyway.

[Jick]

Virus on a mac LOL thats very unlikely.I find it funny that Mac users think they're invincible to viruses... That simply is incorrect... I'm not a Microsoft supporter, (In fact, if all the vital programs I use were available on Linux I would be using something like Ubuntu right now) but I think it shows a great deal of ignorance to think that Mac users cannot get viruses. But, in the interest of keeping this thread on-topic, I'll leave it at that.

[knowj]

I find it funny that Mac users think they're invincible to viruses... That simply is incorrect... I'm not a Microsoft supporter, (In fact, if all the vital programs I use were available on Linux I would be using something like Ubuntu right now) but I think it shows a great deal of ignorance to think that Mac users cannot get viruses. But, in the interest of keeping this thread on-topic, I'll leave it at that.

I know we can get viruses. But the chances are slim to none. Currently (correct me if im wrong) there is 1 virus that is a direct threat to OS10.5. This virus requires the user to type in the system password. Firstly you are downloading the wrong things if you get a virus onto your system, secondly you have to accept that you want to open the file (it tells you when and where you downloaded it from) then for it to be able to access any system files you need to type in the system password.

If you get a virus you deserve one.

It's pretty much the same with windows now. OSx is basically OpenBSD (if im correct) so it has the security features of Unix and more.

*back on topic
I found the main problem was actually phpbuilder.com (something to do with the javascript/ads) once i enabled adblocker plus it stopped crashing every time i clicked a page on it.

[webgovernor]

On Topic
Flash ads can cause crashes on Mac and Linux versions of FF2, even though it's only certain "versions", a swf compiled in F7 may, but not one in F5.

Off Topic
And you're generally correct about the less viruses for Macs, as Macs become more popular, the viruses will increase. But I'm personally not going to spend the hundreds of hours writing an ASM-PPC* virus just yet. It is in the cards however...

However, the hardware in Macs is currently the same, they're now beginning to use DDR3 and SATA, along with their Intel processors, now Mac users are just paying for Steve Job's art. Which is good, I still argue with die-hard mac users that claim "Rambus is soo much better then DDR3!" and "SCSI rocks SATAs world!"

Why not spend $400 on a comparable PC and put on Kubuntu or another "pretty picture" and "easy to use" version of Linux (for free, I might add)? Mac OSX is basically just stolen FreeBSD anyway.......... only made "easier" with pretty buttons and big lettering, "Finally, an OS for your household pet!"

But anyway, glad your issue was resolved, and keep on Mac'n!

*I know the architecture is the same as PCs, I'm just trying to sound suave.

[WebJoel]

I find it funny that Mac users think they're invincible to viruses... That simply is incorrect... I just read this:
http://www.tech2.com/india/news/software/macbook-air-hacked-in-under-2-minutes/32761/0
(not 'virus', but shows that they are vulnerable too)

Note this:

The first to go was of course the Macbook, followed by Windows Vista.
Ubuntu stood strong despite repeated attempts.

[Jick]

Good article there. ;)

Yeah, I tend to think the same way as one of the commenter's on that article. I think it's lack of interest that keeps the Mac from being so widely targeted for attack. I mean, it's just common sense. Hackers want to spend their time on code that will attack a large number of people. Which OS has the largest user base? That would be Windows. So, it's just common sense to spend your time on hacks for Windows. Just switch it up. Put Mac in Windows' place. Make Mac the huge leader. Then it would be Mac you hear all the exploits about constantly. Or pretty much any other OS for that matter...

</rant> :p

[drhowarddrfine]

While Mac's are not invulnerable, they are less likely targets because it is more difficult to cause serious damage. Unlike Windows, you can't get into the OS at all unless you are root. So even if you got a user's login name and password, the worst you could do is fiddle with his settings and delete some of his files, but you can't uninstall programs or much of anything else. Same is true of Linux/BSD/Unix which is what Macs are built on.

So becoming more popular will not likely increase any benefit to attempting to write virii/trojans/etc.