Macromedia Studio MX 2004

[Compguy Pete]

Well it's that time of the year... Macromedia has come out with a new versions of our favorite programs.

http://www.macromedia.com/software/studio/

[Jona]

w00t!!! Too cool. :D I like the way the redesigned their site, too. Looks better now, not so hard on my eyes. :eek: Flash MX 2004 looks promising. :cool:

[J]ona

[Aronya1]

I just read a review of Dreamweaver MX 2004. Much-improved CSS support. Sounds REALLY good.

[Dark Dragon]

Hmm..I hope it is better..I like DW but I found some of the tools confusing...never could get the CSS Stylesheets to work though so I would just copy and paste or type it in.

I'd get Flash MX but I really use it mainly for drawing still images....I like the Auto-Smooth feature because I have shaky hands and it wreaks havok on my images so Auto Smooth is a life saver....maybe I will look into it.....

[Aronya1]

DW MX 2004 upgrade: $199.

Full version: $399.

The memories you'll create: Priceless...

Somebody stop me!

[Dark Dragon]

The memories you'll create: Priceless...

Ugh! I think I will be sick now...(pukes and dies)

[Sux0rZh@jc0rz]

Thank god for friends with licenses. and for those programs that are missing, keygens and P2P.

[pyro]

Just downloaded the Dreamweaver MX 2004 demo, and am going to play around with it. One thing that I noticed right of the get-go is that it no longer uses the horrid <font> tag. It now favors the <span> tag with stylesheets. Rock on! Hope to get more time to see if it will generate valid code (at least for the most part) out of the box...

[Jona]

Originally posted by pyro
Just downloaded the Dreamweaver MX 2004 demo, and am going to play around with it. One thing that I noticed right of the get-go is that it no longer uses the horrid <font> tag. It now favors the <span> tag with stylesheets. Rock on! Hope to get more time to see if it will generate valid code (at least for the most part) out of the box...

YES! w00t!! So cool, I am going to download free trial and purchase Flash! lol

[J]ona

[Sux0rZh@jc0rz]

pleh at peeps paying money's. just wait a few days and the crack for 2004 version will be done. (convert trail to pro)

[pyro]

Perhaps you don't care about the moral and ethical issues involved with stealing software, but some of us pay the price, and have fully legal copys to work with. We can also sleep at night.

[Sux0rZh@jc0rz]

thats not funny.. I'm an insomniac and I don't sleep at night.... or any time for that matter.

[pyro]

It wasn't supposed to be funny. It was supposed to make you think...

[Robert Wellock]

There are already simple ways to alter trial MX 2004 products but really its best not to discuss such unethical ideas as it goes against the forum rules.

Yes you should buy the product if you like it enough rather than trying to get an illegitimate product.

[Dark Dragon]

...to see if it will generate valid code (at least for the most part) out of the box...

Ah-Ha!!..This is what I am after..valid code. I don't mind typing in a couple of lines here and there but not an entire page full.

Maybe I will try out the trial version..sounds good.

How about Flash..was there any noticible differences between it and its predecessor?

[pyro]

I don't use Flash enough to think I'd notice the differences, so I didn't download the demo of that. Also, the Dreamweaver MX 2004 code is still going to take tweaking (probably less with a transitional doctype. I was using strict) but it is definitly an improvement over MX.

[Dark Dragon]

but it is definitly an improvement over MX.

Umm..I am confused now..didn't you just say MX was better than than its predecessor?

Or is there already a new versionof MX coming out?

[pyro]

Yes, look at the link in Pete's original post. It is Dreamweaver MX 2004, the newest version, that is better.

[Dark Dragon]

*Laughs evilly*...Oh..okay! Thanks Pyro!

[pyro]

lol... No problem... :)

[spykemitchell]

Cold fusion? never really caught on did it?

[Sux0rZh@jc0rz]

Flash MX and the Flash MX professional have both become ALOT better. you now have automated text effects, like blurs and fades, plus on images you have fades, and TONS of other things to make your designing MUCH faster. only been out for like a week so I haven't seen it all yet. but thats the best thing i saw so far, the premade effects(tons of them.) Also: it is supposedly 2.5X faster meaning it will now take 1 milisecond to load as upposed to the earlier 2.5miliseconds...
(win98 733Mhz computer with cable connection and flash is hella fast for me. even faster on newer computers so i don't see what the deal is unless u are using it like www.stickdeath.com)

[MotherNatrsSon]

Eric Meyer did all the style templates for DW MX 2004. I went to a demo a few weeks back and it apears to have improved on the CSS a great deal over MX which really sux the big one on CSS. I think it will always need to have the code tweaked to some degree. Give it up and go hard core with BBEdit. I got the latest version of that and dumped DW MX off of my MAC.

MNS

[Jona]

Originally posted by MotherNatrsSon
Eric Meyer did all the style templates for DW MX 2004. I went to a demo a few weeks back and it apears to have improved on the CSS a great deal over MX which really sux the big one on CSS. I think it will always need to have the code tweaked to some degree. Give it up and go hard core with BBEdit. I got the latest version of that and dumped DW MX off of my MAC.

I don't have a Macintosh, I have Windows. But...

Rock on, Notepad!!!

Hehe, yes. I actually use Windows Notepad (text-editor) to do all of my Web designing, lol. I don't know if that's good or bad, but I can type really fast after a year of all that... <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd>...... You get the point. lol. :p

[J]ona

[iniquity101]

Originally posted by Sux0rZh@jc0rz
pleh at peeps paying money's. just wait a few days and the crack for 2004 version will be done. (convert trail to pro)

The last cracked version of Dreamweaver had stuff missing, or not working.

[spykemitchell]

I used to use notepad for everything until it all became too difficult.

I then downloaded Evrsofts Miracle, 1st Page 2000 which is brilliant for raw html code creation...

I don't like wysiwyg programs, they confuse me.

I can also see why some people get the illegal cracked versions of these, $400? it's not exactly your paper and a bottle milk price is it?

Spyke.

[pyro]

If you don't like WYSIWYG's you might like HTML-kit from http://www.chami.com.

Also, if you don't like the $400 price tag, the solution is to not buy the software, not to get a illegal cracked version. :rolleyes:

[spykemitchell]

Did i say i don't pay for software, i steal it?

I don't think so...

I'm just saying, why is it $400??????

[iniquity101]

no, but it was mentioned earlier by someone

[pyro]

Because it is a top of the line, professional HTML editor. The WYSIWYG editor is only one aspect of it. I personally use the code view nearly 100% of the time, and love the code hints for PHP. In my opinion, Dreamweaver is the best WYSIWYG out there, and as such, is a bit pricy. Why does Photoshop cost $600? Because it is the best of the best -- a standard in graphics editing...

[spykemitchell]

If you can get what youwant cheaper, why buy the more expensive one?

Spyke.

[pyro]

It made sense, I just happen to disagree with it. If a free app does what you need/want, by all mean, go for it. Especially if it is open source. But, when you want to be on the bleeding edge, you're going to have to resign yourself to the fact that you might have to shell out a few dollars. I've only used 1st page 2000 once, to demo it, so I'm not sure if it has any of this, but does it have site management tools? With Dreamweaver, you can manage your entire site(s) including FTPing the info to the server, and testing it on a local server by just previewing the page. How about valid code? While Dreamweaver isn't perfect, it's by far the best I've seen, in this newest version. Or how about PHP, ASP, JSP, and CF support -- and I'm talking code hints, syntax highlighting, etc. (at least for some of them, probably all). It is definitly far and above you free WYSIWYG editore...

[spykemitchell]

Guh..... Wha.... But...... Um......

SHUTUP!

(whispering: now how do i order dream weaver?)

I admit defeat.... :eek:

[spykemitchell]

What's Net Objects Fusion 7 Like if anyone has tried it???

[MotherNatrsSon]

BBEdit on a MAC kicks DW all over the place. The validation and formatting are better. It CORRECTLY sytaxes code, never adds any or changes formatting, can ftp and mange locall or remotely, can preview simultaneously on every browser you have on your machine plus versions that come with it. Supports CSS completly and will write CORRECT styles for you by clicking on a few choices....

If your stuck on a PC, I suppose DW might work but there are other editors for PC similar to BBEdit.

$179

DW 2004 is slightly better than MX from what I saw at the demo but it still has a long way to go. If you don't have, I would suggest strongly not buying it...

MNS

[spykemitchell]

So you suggest not buying the $400 DW

and buying the $2000 E-mac and $179 of BBedit software to go with it?

[pyro]

BBEdit isn't a WYSIWYG... :rolleyes:

[neil]

i use DW MX at work

but I don't think its stable enough still and it seems to take forever to connect to the server and disconnects quite quickly after not uploading files for 5 minutes.

Is there a way to stop it from disconnecting during periods of not uploading files?

i think it prides itself to much as being a "professional" product although in a commercial context it is worth what you pay i guess, but then if your just a hobbyist coding your own non-commercial site and you want to use a wysiwyg editor you might aswell download some freeware off tucows.com

MM bring out a new version every five minutes though, hang on a minute, isn't it 2003 still? :confused:

Expect MM DW MX 2006 to be in the shops by this christmas. :rolleyes:

[spykemitchell]

Yeah...

Who said bbedit was a WYSIWYG?

What is net objects fusion 7 like?

How does it compare to dreamweaver???

[pyro]

No one said BBEdit was a WYSIWYG, but if you are compairing a text editor to a WYSIWYG, guess which one is normally going to win?