how much time it takes for post to appear in JS forum

[o0O0o.o0O0o]

how much time it takes for post to appear . Its only for new users or for all

[NogDog]

New users' posts are more likely to be flagged for moderation. How long it takes depends on whether any moderators are on at the time that you post if it is so flagged. (The most likely thing to flag a post is any URL in it.)

[o0O0o.o0O0o]

i think by the time the posts appear in the forum , the user already had found the solution from other resources :D

[LeeU]

Well, that's fine too. But they should also post the solution here so others can see it.

[o0O0o.o0O0o]

Usually every new user which comes to website want a solution to a problem which he could not find . I was using some other forum but there i could not find solution so i came here . But here new user has to wait , and this is the thing user least wanted.

new user wants quick response either right or somewaht near to it.
Like any business , the first principle is to attract customers or users and user should feel comfortable in using your product or website

By the time my post appear here , in prevous forum , some one answered my problem.

I haven't seen much forums where user has to wait . Many users aren't going to stay and wait even if there r good coders. There are so many vast resources on interent , user will find other forum.


I don't know what purpose this scanning solves .

[WebJoel]

As a measure to reduce spammers gaining immediate entry, a 'moderation queue' exists to 'field the request'. This employs a human element to read & validate legitimacy of the post. We're pretty lenient, but there ARE obvoious & dubious posts that you, the membership, will never see posted.

When the 'new member' whom posts legitimate, actual requests for help, acheives a 'trusted status' (an undisclosed number of valid posts) their posts will be shown immediately. I am not at liberty to disclose the number of posts this entails, but the posts have to be real, not merely acknowledgements of others' posts ("yeah, that is smart! I'll try that!"). This just inflates one's post-count and is illegitimate and will call attentions.

Just getting posted to the forum is no guarantee that they will receive an answer any faster. Just have a bit of patience. This is a very active forum... people practically trip-over each other trying to be the first to answer. :D

Your post sounds slightly hostile towards the free help you can receive here. Keep in mind that we have REAL jobs doing exactly this, for paying clients. Our time here is volunteer, pro~bono and often, after-hours.

[o0O0o.o0O0o]

Same rules are being followed in every forum . The thing is if there are useless posts or spam posts they can be deleted afterward they are posted.
It happens that way in forums which i use.

Although you are right . but serious users who sometimes want answer urgenly are un-necessarily sufferring . they have no fault. so why they should suffer just for spammers.

I agree that senior coder always wanted to be the first one to answer . It may be very small trick for senior coder but i can be very large thing for new coder to solve the problem. So if post appear immediately , someone can answer in split second . But waiting for user for the post to appear is very annoying.

So many forums are running this way , they can't be wrong. The thing is this forum is extra cautious about spammers. But just for that precaution , new users are sufferring . I felt that thing , and i think there will many like me who wanted to be here but can't stop them selves only due to scanning

As First impression is the last impression . i believe that few % of users might be leaving this forum due to this reason

[WebJoel]

I really doubt that new users are suffering disproportionantly versus the invisible benefits to everyone for not having to view ads for Viagara, FREE TIBET diatribes, MLM/pyramid schemes and the more vulgar porn stuff that tends to gravitate to forums. And once a new member such as yourself gets 'trusted status', things become much easier & faster at least as far as seeing your post on the forum.

[aj_nsc]

o0O0o.o0O0o, I'm sorry to have to jump in on this thread, but you are implying that the service this forum offers new coders (and senior coders as well) to be able to get some help with problems they are encountering is a right - it is not. It is a privilege and an excellent one at that.

This is a free forum and if your problem is so urgent that it needs to be answered in seconds, then perhaps you should pay for your support

[o0O0o.o0O0o]

I totally agree with you that this delaying thing is only for the extra benefit of the users .But today technology is going very high some other measures must also be there to check the spam at real time . I am a member of 6-7 different forums , and using them for few years. I haven't seen nay spam in their forums . I don't know how they do it but they are going on very well.

This was the first time i have seen that manual filtering of messages . so that why i felt it annoying for new user because i never had to wait in any forum to ask questions . and similar user like me must have felt the same thing.

There are numerous forums on the internet , user can easily switch between the forums .


Just get a report from this forum database and see how many of customers has only 1 post and never came back. Then you get an idea.

[WebJoel]

Well then you seem to have your finger on the pulse of what everyone else does or wants, seemingly negating the hard work of volunteers and the invisible filtering software employed here that has greatly reduced the number of obvious and dubious posts that used to clog the moderation queue (and sometimes landing upon the visible pages) that mods/admins, etc., have had to deal manually with in the past. I've been on some usenet forums... got tired of the personality conflicts, name-calling and general abusive behaviour that filtering software & human-staffed moderation queues can eliminate, leaving only the distilled pertianant posts.
So I guess then that if this forum isn't up to your expectations of what a ad-sponsored, free & public web developement forum should be we probably won't be seeing you post much here, huh? :o I mean, except to complain about how much better other forums are. At least CoffeeLoungue (and feedback forum) are set up for this very purpose. :)

[o0O0o.o0O0o]

I am not negating the hard work of volunteers . They are doing very good job for users. I was only concerned with the new users coming to forum . Now as i have trusted status , i can post any question , so my problem is solved. But i am thinking about only new users who came here and go .

Just put a poll in the forum and let new users decide how they feel.
Just when you display text about
"you info may not appear straightway"

make a poll button for the user whether they like it or not .
I bet 80% of users wil say no.

I am not saying what you are doing is wrong . But this thing annoys new users

[JPnyc]

Well you're the 1st to complain about it, and it's been a practice for a year. It may bother the odd user here and there but if we let spammers post through, we start losing more users and mods as well, because they get tired of trying to stem the tide.

[o0O0o.o0O0o]

I think that is good point , if the no. of users which are lost due to spams are more than the number of users lost due to filtering than thats ok.

But if system is working fine , thas ok .

I work on online shopping web site . I have to check ecah and every scenario that why the customer is not shopping or why customer is not coming back. My manager has told me that even if one customer has stopped ordering , who previously was , then we call him and ask him the problem and will try to rectify it.

Now my mentality has become that there should be nothing which user should find uncomfortable , even though that is for their good . so i try to point it out that thing .

All this thing is happening at your back , so you don't find it.
because there are already so many number of users on the site and for them this problem is gone , so no one cares. But as the administrator you have to look for those things as well . i know its free web site so no one has so much time to go into that much detail .

But you guys know better than me . but that was just a thought