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[davadvice]

Hello,

I just thought i would say hi with my first post.

I am a VB devloper and i would like to start branching out to html PHP ASP and all the other lovely things Web dev offers.

Can any of you recomend a decent html Editor and not Notpad, I would like somthing i can get a preview with all though not totaly wysiwig.

I don't have a server set up on my local pc i have webspace set up with CGI and ASP addins.

any references to getting started would be great? i already know about htmlGoodies.

i have previous experiance doing htlm although it was a few years ago and forgot most of it.

thanks in advance

David

Edit:
Never Noticed the General section, Admin please move if in wrong Section, Sorry. David

[NogDog]

If you want to get into PHP and MySQL, you can get things up and running pretty quickly (and for free) with:
WAMP (http://www.wampserver.com/en/index.php)
Aptana Studio (http://www.aptana.com/studio) (Community Edition)
PHP 101 tutorial (http://devzone.zend.com/node/view/id/627)
PHP on-line manual (http://us.php.net/manual/en/index.php)
MySQL on-line manual (http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/index.html)

[Sunny G]

NogDog, WAMP makes children cry. XAMPP (http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html) is better.
A good editor for all things web is Notepad++ (http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/) (for windows systems).
Since you're looking for para-WYSIWYG, try KompoZer (http://www.kompozer.net/) (or anything in the family).

[NogDog]

NogDog, WAMP makes children cry. XAMPP (http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html) is better.
A good editor for all things web is Notepad++ (http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/) (for windows systems).
Since you're looking for para-WYSIWYG, try KompoZer (http://www.kompozer.net/) (or anything in the family).
Unless XAMPP has changed a lot in the last year or so, I much prefer the WAMP user interface for changing configurations and such. XAMPP is much better, however, if installing on any platform other than Windows. ;)

[Sunny G]

For the record, I do use XAMPP on a windows machine and completely respect your opinion.
At a PHP seminar a few months ago we used WAMP on the local machines. For the stuff we looked at, my portable USB XAMPP install worked, and worked better than their WAMP installs. But in any case, both programs are great. Variety is the spice of life.

[NogDog]

For the record, I do use XAMPP on a windows machine and completely respect your opinion.
At a PHP seminar a few months ago we used WAMP on the local machines. For the stuff we looked at, my portable USB XAMPP install worked, and worked better than their WAMP installs. But in any case, both programs are great. Variety is the spice of life.
Ultimately, the end result is each installs Apache, PHP, and MySQL, so the end result should (at least in theory) be the same assuming it's on the same platform, installs the same versions, and you configure each of the applications the same. There may be a difference in the defaults for some of the configuration options, so I would think that would be the most likely place for any "out of the box" differences (if all those other things are equal).

I actually always used XAMPP until a little less than 2 years ago, when I couldn't get it to install on my new PC; so I downloaded WAMP, it installed just fine, and I haven't tried anything else since then.

But like you say, either is fine, and even better in terms of learning things would be to download all of the pieces separately and manually install and configure them; but I'm too bleeping lazy for that and really not interested in becoming a web host system administrator anyway. :)

[Sunny G]

but I'm too bleeping lazy for that and really not interested in becoming a web host system administrator anyway.
Ditto & Amen. Hallelujah, praise the lord, and pass the chips.

[davadvice]

hi, think i've started somthing here:)

thanks for all the links.

No doubt i will be back asking more troubling questions in the future

Again many thanks

David

[Dok]

PSPad (http://www.pspad.com/) - my favorite editor. Syntax highlighting and intellisense for many languages (incl. PHP, ASP, XHTML, CSS, JavaScript, Perl, C). Bookmarking, HEX editing, Search/replace with regex, project managing....etc.

[Stephen Philbin]

Welcome to the forums, David. Hope you like the place. As you've already seen, most of the folks here are brimming with very helpful hints, tips and advice.

[NogDog]

Welcome to the forums, David. Hope you like the place. As you've already seen, most of the folks here are brimming with very helpful hints, tips and advice.
And if you get 10 developers together in one place, there's a 90% chance you'll have 10 different opinions on the best editor/IDE. ;)

PS: 23.5% of all statistics are made up.

[Yelgnidroc]

100% of me in the same place prefers pspad editor for the reason mentioned as well as easy ftp to server.

[Dok]

And if you get 10 developers together in one place, there's a 90% chance you'll have 10 different opinions on the best editor/IDE.Choice of editor is always a fun discussion - kind of like discussing geeky hardware specs like RAM CAS and latency.

Me: I just got these brand new PC2-9200 DDR2 RAM...man they rock...high FSB and all.
Friend: FSB ...Pffyy...what really matters is the CAS
Me: No way. I'm telling you high FSB is gonna blast your machine away
Friend: In what game?
Me: Game? I'm taking about programming
Friend: So you need these advanced RAM blocks for your pimped-up Notepad?
Me: Ehhh...I see your point.

Allthough so much have so many features which are never utililized it is still nice to know that they are there :)