SEO Tools?

[zenthoef]

Hi -

Are there any online tools or software packages that are good for determining what a person needs to do to optimize a site for search engines?

I'm not quite sure what I specifically want to measure, but I would like something that looks at my site and gives me a general idea of what I need to improve or change. I've read books on SEO, but I love software tools that can check over what I have done, because it is quite easy to miss some things.

Any suggestions on where I should look or what is good for this would be appreciated.

Thanks.

[gbonnet]

hi

The google webmaster tools will provide you with a lot of info.

Take also a look at the W3C validation tools to check that your website is fine : http://validator.w3.org

You can also take a look at the SEO for Firefox toolbar which is useful.

Then, it will be a long term monitoring of your results (ie: positions in SERP for your selected key expressions) and tweaking of your titles and content according to that.

[nick007]

i will suggest everyone that its good to do manual handwork instead of using seo tools.
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[Kimberlh]

[QUOTE=nick007;973699]i will suggest everyone that its good to do manual handwork instead of using seo tools.
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Once upon a time you could go to a search engine and search up related topic sites with indexes to add your sites your site. Now days it all rss feeds and blog and these type of index are not findable for at least me. Any suggestions on how you do the manual handwork, which I do prefer to do it myself, other than checking your page to make sure it search engine friendly etc...

I been looking at sites where you can list your rss feed but not sure if that is the right direction to go.

Thank you
Kimberly

[Charles]

Step one is making sure your page works well with Lynx. They way your page looks on Lynx is the way your page looks to a search engine, proximally and for the most part as Heidegger would say.

[Kimberlh]

Step one is making sure your page works well with Lynx. They way your page looks on Lynx is the way your page looks to a search engine, proximally and for the most part as Heidegger would say.

I am sure you mean well but honestly, this is "No longer my world" and my women webmaster have all talked about how we simple did not grow-up on in this computer world so it better to go back to basic stuff. You might as well be talking Greek to me. I use managed hosting so I can just upload and go on. I love my frontpage.

Plus I was making hundreds of dollars a day at adsense when I did standard old fashion pages and when I tried to learn new stuff, it went way down on all the sites I updates to new tech. The more I go back in time the way I design the more my google money goes up. So I pretty set in my ways.

I have do what is making money and use meta tags & old fashion stuff seem to be helping and getting my traffic back up.

[Charles]

You'll find, however, that things work even better if the search engines can actuall read your page. And yes, use the META data, just don't get caught using them incorrectly. You may be using them correctly, in which case you are doing well. But if you are cheating then you are like the man having slipped off the roof and fallen successfully 18 stories thinks that things are gioing to go smoothly forever.

And while you are conducting your expirements, do keep in mind that you have uncontrolled variables. Search engines pay a lot of attention to who is linking to you. Your efforts may be having little or no effect and the uptick is simply coincedental.

But then, as David Hume observerd you can never establish causation. All you can observerve is constant conjunction.

[Kimberlh]

You'll find, however, that things work even better if the search engines can actuall read your page. And yes, use the META data, just don't get caught using them incorrectly. You may be using them correctly, in which case you are doing well. But if you are cheating then you are like the man having slipped off the roof and fallen successfully 18 stories thinks that things are gioing to go smoothly forever.

And while you are conducting your expirements, do keep in mind that you have uncontrolled variables. Search engines pay a lot of attention to who is linking to you. Your efforts may be having little or no effect and the uptick is simply coincedental.

But then, as David Hume observerd you can never establish causation. All you can observerve is constant conjunction.


This site as many of my sites are way way too niche to get people linking to it so I have to think outside the box which at this point is finding way to clean, clear and direct about what the web page (not site) is about for it to get picked up by people looking for what I offer so ranking does not mean that much to me. I look at the daily cost effective of hours worked via dollar earned by the corporation of sites. Sure it nice this sites main .com still has it's number 1 & number 3 ranking most days on google depending how you do the one or two word search but they still have to niche search to find it. I want pages "inside my the site" found more on even more niche searches which is how the site use to make the most money. On very exact searches.

Deal with each page as it own person make me more money.

Not everyone has a web site that fit neatly into the dmoz format (or type of) directory. Ranking is not everything to everyone.

>>>But if you are cheating then you are like the man having slipped off the roof and fallen successfully 18 stories thinks that things are going to go smoothly forever.
<<< - - - - and the fact you even felt the need to say that is what is wrong with the world today and why it is "not my world" any longer and why I am taking another look at this so called needed stuff.

So far the meta tags are getting me the niche searches again for pages within my site which is what I wanted so I standing by doing them and using the same format meta tags style I had back in six years ago and it seem to be working.

[vit]

I am repeating this reply since it did go through yesterday.
Hi -

Are there any online tools or software packages that are good for determining what a person needs to do to optimize a site for search engines?

I'm not quite sure what I specifically want to measure, but I would like something that looks at my site and gives me a general idea of what I need to improve or change. I've read books on SEO, but I love software tools that can check over what I have done, because it is quite easy to miss some things.

Any suggestions on where I should look or what is good for this would be appreciated.

Thanks.

There is a tool which is really important for site developers, especially if they are going to promote them in Google and other search engines.
We all depend on how Google determines that the content is of "high quality". It scores content by some mathematical algorithms and they are not ideal, they are not human. Even if website is interesting and of high quality it may take forever to convince Google algorithms that it is really so, by numerous attempts to create backlinks, exposing it in forums, articles, etc.
If you from the very beginning tweak your textual web content towards consistency it may take much less efforts to promote it.
People's impression of your website and Goggle's impression do not coincide, simply because Google is a math model based on (I am simplifying a little bit here) word statistics and content association through words. Therefore you need to use some math tool based on similar concept to make sure that you web content is consistent.

[Charles]

Therefore you need to use some math tool based on similar concept to make sure that you web content is consistent.On wee problem, those algorithems are secret and changing. It has been suggested that one can stumble upon the secret of success by trial and error but there is another wee problem with that, one that I've mentioned above. If what you are doing is dishonest and Google catches you... If you from the very beginning tweak your textual web content towards consistency it may take much less efforts to promote it.Exactly. The first step is to make sure that Google can actually read your page and you do that by making sure that it makes sense in Lynx. After that it's a matter of having content that draws people and links from "quality" sites. Google tends to do a pretty good job weeding out the junk sites. But if what you have is a junk site that you are trying to promote then you're on your own.

[vit]

I am sorry I probably forgot to mention the tool which I think is very useful for this purpose. It is Classification Engine (www.ClassEngine.com)

[vmackey]

You can use the google keyword tool. It is made specially for Google Adword advertisers but it could be used too to have a little idea of what keywords are the most actives.

[xjessie007]

I think there is no perfect tool that will tell you what you need to do to SE optimize. The reason is that SEO is not the same for all web sites. SEO depends on the content of your site, your layout, etc. Many things. Take a look at for example the following guide called Make money with AdSense (http://www.maxi-pedia.com/make+money+with+adsense) (actually, it starts here Make money with Google AdSense (http://www.maxi-pedia.com/make+money+with+google+adsense)). You will see that this guide includes 36 tips and tricks on how to make money, and I have to tell you that every one of them involves many many things to consider. The point is that you would need a tool that would check for many many many things which "depend" on your situation. Plus, even though this guide is pretty comprehensive and includes 36 tips & tricks, it is not complete, there is more to SEO.

In addition to that, remember that there are two kinds of SEO: a) on site and b) off site. You need to pay attention to both with having in mind that off-seo is more important and as such no tool exists to tell you what you need to do in this respect.

[Webitseo]

This site is helpful: http://www.websitegrader.com

[gbonnet]

This site is helpful: http://www.websitegrader.com

That's a nice tool indeed ! Thanks

[andr105]

I don't use any SEO tool. I prefer work manually.