Why twitter haters are wrong....

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Its not the first incident that twatter has been the root cause of ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1215209/Retired-couples-home-trashed-150-yobs-gatecrash-granddaughters-party-advertised-Twitter.html?ITO=1490

Real reasons why social networking sites are a danger to your personal safety and your property. People who use these sites and advertising all their movements IMHO really do deserve everything thats coming to them, including devastation to a home because your granddaughter had a couple of friends and found themselves in trouble because of twatter.

I sincerely hope that twatter gets hit with a law suit over this and the other incidents that have cropped up in the past few months.

Reasons to hate twatter, 1... 2... 3...

[Sunny G]

Tweetlejuice (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1918969)
I freak out in a clever quip, every single time they tweet it.

[andr105]

Thanks for the warning! I could never imagine that Twitter can be so dangerous... Now I will be more careful.

[JunkMale]

Yes, if gives criminals an edge.

Like on-line home viewing is an advert for "Come Rob Me."

People do not consider other aspects of a service, while it might seem cool or fun thing to do, the reality can be the opposite.

I have to agree, you have to be a twit to use it...

[skilled1]

this isn't twitters fault, it is the people that misuse it. same goes for gun control. gun's aren't dangerous, the people that use them are.

the kids are at fault, not twitter.

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It is pretty sad when you have to tell people exactly what your doing and IMHO it is irresponsible of twatter because they are the service that encourages people to publicize their activities and continue to encourage people to post messages and in doing so they are encouraging people to expose themselves to dangers that are not at first apparent.

Had people stopped to think about the implications of using the service and how it can compromise the personal safety of themselves and their own or others property... Incidents like the one in the media would not have happened.

It is not the first time that a mob have turned up to a party and destroyed a house. It is easy to blame the end user of these services but the real culprit is the service provider and if they did not exist then incidents like these wouldn't happen.

It is however sad to know that after a recent article in the media highlighted that 79% of all messages are tat.

IMHO, lame service like all social networking sites of that ilk.

I would like to say something about google and how dangerous a couple of their services are and how they invade your privacy but that would expose the issue that currently no one seems aware of. The danger again being personal safety and other issues like it can be used as a tool for a terrorists weapon. But thats another kettle of fish yet to be cooked and served up. The only people at present that are aware of it are myself and Privacy International who also share my concerns.

What I feel that people need to do is to get educated in areas of personal safety and I do not mean going down to the dojo twice a week to get some self defense classes, I am talking about being aware of the implications of using such social networking and blogging. Criminals can easily see users, gleam information from posts over time, even in forums.

I recently advised a forum board owner that he shouldn't post that he is going on holiday as the forum is public and he failed to see the danger until I sent him his home address and an aerial picture of his home and his phone number. Think the guy crapped himself because he then sat up and took my advise and took appropriate action.

People are too open, the world is a big place and forgive me for saying but theirs more s*** bags in the world than decent people.

So in the greater scheme of things, the service provider is the one to blame for not warning people of the hazards of using the service and how the personal information they have can be seen by all who join up to it and the group(s) you belong to.

[thelight]

omg thats crazy. thanks for the news update. actually i was waiting for something to help out of twitter.

[Alive]

Blaming Twitter for this (or anything, really) is like blaming a riot on the megaphone. Posting something on twitter is like running around a public park screaming it through a megaphone. If the girl had yelled "party at XXX address" and posted signs everywhere, would we blame Kinko's for printing the signs? No, because that's stupid. The girl threw* a party, and it got out of control. Sounds pretty normal to me.

[skilled1]

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you really have no idea what you are talking about. period.

you are blaming twitter for misuse of a user. there is a terms of service that everyone agrees to when they sign up, just like this website. the kids misused twitter.

just because you don't understand something, or how it is used, does not make it bad. it is people like you, that want things banned, or closed down, because you do not understand it.

so in the greater scheme of things, you should probably go read their terms of service before you jump to conclusions. http://twitter.com/tos they talk about being careful about what you disclose multiple times.

which once again points to how dump the kids were about posting it. as soon as things got out of control the kids should have called the cops to help regulate or shut it down.

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So I don't know what I am talking about when issues of personal safety are the significant factor in cases like these arise over a service that may have been used in a legitamate way. So why can people tweet your tweets then? THAT is a significant breach of personal security.

It is easy for people to turn around and say that its the person who sent the original message but that person has no control over what the recipient does, ergo, fault of twatter.

The last incident that was a high profile incident was brought to you by sit on my facebook.

Simply put, the controls needed in these services are non-existent and had should be.

Any competant legal professional would be aqble to punch holes in twaters TOS because TOS is not the law.

What you say on Twitter may be viewed all around the world instantly. You are what you Tweet!

Which is what the problem is, if anyone can see what you post then theirs no privacy.

The part that witters on about privacy and privacy policy shows that they have no concept of what privacy is about. Privacy encompasses more than just what they say you get from them.

I think that twatter need to go and get some solid legal advise on their TOS as it is tos.

You agree that this license includes the right for Twitter to make such Content available to other companies, ...

WRONG! That alone completely flouts the right to privacy and control of your content.


TBH I think that people who use these social networking tools need to get a good grounding in what they as an individual are legally entitled to when it comes to privacy and that these company / vendors of tools show stop undermining your rights with convoluted and twisted terms of service. The LAW is the LAW and a TOS is not a legal document. The TOS is nothing more than an attempt to claw their way out of a legal hole so that when the manure hits the fan, they have a life jacket. Unfortunately, people fail to understand that TOS is not bullet proof.

Like 99.999% of all forum software that is available, they have TOS that are not worth the time and effort that these companies have invested in them. I have yet to see any web based software that respects your rights as an individual.

Hopefully in the very near future, the web will have a regulator that enforces and has the power to suspend immediately and remove if needed services that do not comply with your rights.

You wouldn't buy a life insurance policy that wouldn't pay on your death would you? So why agree to a set of terms to gain access to a service that flouts your rights as an individual?

In this case of the party, sure, she may have invited people over but what was to stop people resending that message to other friends to say where they were going?

Any privacy or privacy controls are now broken.

The service is seriously flawed and you'd be right if you said it should be shut down, it should be untill people who produce this stuff wake up and recognise the fgacts that the end user has rights that can not be simply brushed away with a set of terms that have to be agreed to to use the service.

We reserve the right at all times (but will not have an obligation) to remove or refuse to distribute any Content WRONG AGAIN.... This is in direct conflict with your rights, if you ask them to remove content then they have to. So someone could post something distasteful about you and they're saying that you have no rights despite the fact it could flout the public humiliation act.

I went to twatter to sign up and one issue poped up instantly, no disclaimer or TOS notice popped up. Again, any argument that "It states in the TOS" is not up for debate.

I think that people should think before they do sign up for such services and to see before hand what rights that they are undermining. Google do this systematically to ensure that they can spy on you and what you do, things you like/dislkie/view on the web and so on. If google did not undermine your individual rights in the way they do, google wouldn't have a service to stand on.

[skilled1]

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Obviously the problem is you have way higher standards of online privacy, than many others. Thus the problem you have with people using it. People these days need to be fare more careful with what they put out there, but it is up to THE USER to use such a tool responsibly, just like a car.

If one of those dumbass kids would have crashed their grandparents car into their grandparents house, you wouldn't go abut blaming the car manufacturer for the children's negligence.

However what disturbs me most about your comments is this:

"Hopefully in the very near future, the web will have a regulator that enforces and has the power to suspend immediately and remove if needed services that do not comply with your rights."

The internet needs neutrality, not enforcement. If you do something illegal with the internet, you should be held responsible for your actions, not your ISP, not your computer manufacturer, not your power provider for giving you electricity.

Any free service always has the right to moderate and remove any content it deems fit, if you upload a huge file from a free host and don't mess with your account for a long time, they will delete your files to make room for others, is this against the law? No.

If illegal content or a racist comment is made on twitter, they should also have the right to remove a comment as well. As it is a free website, you are obligated to follow their terms of service, be it in your face or not.

I really hope you are a person that does not vote, because it is people with a belief system such as yours, that wants to go about shutting things down, to 'make them safe', just because they don't understand them, or see a benefit to them.

PS. Stop calling it 'twatter', it makes your points sound like an 8 year old's opinions.

[Stephen Philbin]

Personally, I think Twitter is the most pointless and uninteresting crap I have seen anyone put into production for a long time. However, if someone likes it and wants to use it, then I say go ahead and enjoy.

To say that someone posting information on the internet (the most public of all places), when simple common sense dictates that there's no way of restricting the redistribution, should be afforded any degree of privacy with regards to the information posted is just so absurd that it doesn't even warrant an argument/explanation.

Arguing that privacy should be afforded to those that post information in a public domain of the internet means you either have a gross misunderstanding of the nature of the internet, or you're just looking for an argument.

[multimediocrity]

I don't understand the purpose of twitter. First, I can never keep up to date what I am doing, nor do I want people to know exactly what I'm doing. Besides, everyone who needs to know I keep in close contact with, and they can call me anytime if they really need to know what I'm doing.

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Yep...

Yep...

Exactly...

and in that order.

Regulation is going to make life harder for companies to just ignore the end user / customer.

[6StringGeek]

Twitter is an interesting concept, but I think it'll go away eventually like everything else we thought was cool for 5 minutes.

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And now.... People are arguing and shooting each other....

More like ANTI-social networking.

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