Looking for testers...

[kingius]

... for a HTML editting program Ive built. So far getting feedback has proved very hard, so please, give it a go.

You can find out more on http://www.weberalla.com

[soccer362001]

Not bad. You may want something that converts uppercase tags to lower case tags

[kingius]

Thanks!

I will put it on the to-do list, I have to admit though, its not an option I thought I would ever be asked for :)

[DaveSW]

make it like html-kit from www.chami.com and then you'll have a nice editor...

[soccer362001]

The reason I asked is because in XHTML all your tags have to be lower case

[kingius]

.make it like html-kit from www.chami.com and then you'll have a nice editor...
ha!

I have html kit and its only ok at best. Still, for free, Im not complaining. However, the areas its lacking in (such as design time editting, folder monitoring and code autocomplete) have compelled me to create my own editor that addresses these shortcomings. :)

The reason I asked is because in XHTML all your tags have to be lower case

Good point, and it will be in the release version for definite

[DaveSW]

Originally posted by kingius
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I have html kit and its only ok at best. Still, for free, Im not complaining. However, the areas its lacking in (such as design time editting, folder monitoring and code autocomplete) have compelled me to create my own editor that addresses these shortcomings. :)

maybe I'll manage to live without those features... LOL Incidentally it does have autocomplete. Perhaps the key difference is that I prefer a text editor, not a wysiwyg.

[Sux0rZh@jc0rz]

it has autocomplete? how do you activate that? I wish it had autocomplete that automatically pops up like it does when you type a web address into the adress bar in IE. like, fills it in but unless u press enter, it just stays there and you can keep typing...

or does it have that and i havent enabled it? if so, how do i turn it on?!?!

[Paul Jr]

I still don't see what the big comotion is over, I'd go with Notepad before ANY WYSIWYG or Text Editor anywhere, anytime. I'm a die-hard notepad-er!

NOTEPAD ALL THE WAY!!!

[PunkSktBrdr01]

Code-Genie (http://www.code-genie.com/cgenie.html) is the best! You can edit (and make your own) syntax files, EDIT BINARY (including executables, DLLs, image files...), and do a bunch of other nifty stuff.

[pyro]

Kingius asked for critique of his software program, so if you are not going to do that, please do not post in this thread. I'm quite certain he/she did not want you to get into an arugment over which program you think is best...

[PunkSktBrdr01]

Sorry. :)

I'd love to test it, but I don't have the .NET stuff installed. I'm on Win ME, so I'm not sure if I can get it. If it's possible, can someone tell me how to do it? Thanks. :)

[Sux0rZh@jc0rz]

www.microsoft.com <-- .net frameworks. do search for it.

[kingius]

Incidentally it does have autocomplete. Perhaps the key difference is that I prefer a text editor, not a wysiwyg.

HTML Kit doesnt have autocomplete at all. It does have an attribute drop down and can auto-close tables. Also, my program is a text editor and a WYSIWYG so its the best of both worlds.


I'd go with Notepad before ANY WYSIWYG or Text Editor anywhere

I wont go into a whole WYSIWYG vs Text editor debate but suffice to say that productivity is increased when using a WYSIWYG and editting existing complex pages. What you dont realise is how much time you are wasting attempting to identify in your code where something is - especially with notepad which doesnt even provide any kind of syntax highlighting - it just doesnt understand your code at all.


I'd love to test it, but I don't have the .NET stuff installed

Take a look on Windows Update, it should be there in the non-critical bit.

[Sux0rZh@jc0rz]

i'll test it once i get home today. tell ya what a 14 year old thinks of it=P

[kingius]

Ok thanks, comments are welcomed. :)

[spufi]

How easy is it to switch from HTML generated code, versus XHTML generated? Even if we are talking about when you are using it in text editing mode. I ask this because getting a text editor to generate XHTML style code when hitting a button to generate the code meant going in and playing with some of the files. It would be a lot easier if there was something like a button to switch between HTML style code and XHTML style code. You could even have an option in preferences to make sure the user can set it one way by default. And no, I'm not talking about having a complete HTML page done, hitting a button, and then the whole page gets converted to XHTML. It should just change what type of markup is created after that point.

[Sux0rZh@jc0rz]

wow. automatic page converter would probly be hard to make but DEFINATELY a kewl thing to do.

[kingius]

How easy is it to switch from HTML generated code, versus XHTML generated? Even if we are talking about when you are using it in text editing mode. I ask this because getting a text editor to generate XHTML style code when hitting a button to generate the code meant going in and playing with some of the files. It would be a lot easier if there was something like a button to switch between HTML style code and XHTML style code. You could even have an option in preferences to make sure the user can set it one way by default. And no, I'm not talking about having a complete HTML page done, hitting a button, and then the whole page gets converted to XHTML. It should just change what type of markup is created after that point.

Im not sure because Im not 100% clear on what you are asking for. You might have to explain what constitutes XHTML. Is it simply lower case Tags and every tag is closed (ie XML compliant HTML)?

[pyro]

http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#diffs

[kingius]

Thanks for the link, thats very helpful.

Im still a little confused about where this applies to the program, however. In the Code View, even autocomplete uses lower case tags and obviously you can also type what you want.

[spufi]

Mostly what I was getting at was if a person clicked on a button to make a <div> tag, then you should create both the opening and closing tags. If a person wanted a <img> tag then you should create the XHTML version. Regardless of what version of (X)HTML you are generating, you should also look at what would be useful for creating along with just the basic tag syntax. His has mostly to do with the <img> tag, but generate a <img> that looks like this...

For HTML:
<img src="" width="" height="" alt="">

A person should be using those attributes anyway, and it would save a person the time and effort to code them themselves.

[kingius]

Good points well made. I think I will widen the feature set to support these features before I make a final release, so expect another beta test soon.