geocities pop-ups...MWHAHAHAHA!

[rhsunderground]

if anyone else besides me is still using free geocities, i've discovered a way to keep the pop-ups from coming up on your pages. i just used their own javascripts against them. email if you want it, because they'll probably hire an assassin if i post it here.

[pyro]

It wouldn't be a bit hard to create something like that, but if you read the TOS, you'll probably find something in there about that... :rolleyes:

[rhsunderground]

probably, but since i'm javascript impaired, i feel proud.

[rhsunderground]

actually, i just read the TOS and there's nothing that says 'no blocking our stuff'

[fredmv]

13. ADVERTISEMENTS AND PROMOTIONS
Yahoo runs advertisements and promotions on Yahoo GeoCities Sites. By creating your Yahoo GeoCities Site, you agree that Yahoo has the right to run such advertisements and promotions.http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/geoterms.html

[rhsunderground]

they have the right, but i have the means...

[pyro]

Can anyone say "breach of contract"?

[fredmv]

That's not a very honest thing to do. They provide a hosting service to you, for free, so those ads are how they make money to handle server maintenance costs and other similar things. Just because it's possible to block the ads it doesn't mean you should. If your account gets suspended don't be too surprised.

[metallibanger]

Yeah, there are ways posted all over the internet to get rid of angelfire and geocities popups and banner ads, but if they see your site without them they'll just delete it. No arguements, no fuss... no site.

Andy Oliphant
A&M Design Studios

[rhsunderground]

well you guys just wanna ruin all my fun, don't you? the interesting thing is that the pop-ups only are guaranteed to not show up if you refresh the page. kinda weird, but it happens. anyways, i've actually switched servers again to netfirms so we can use ftp. we're going through servers like Cher goes through skin.

[fredmv]

Originally posted by rhsunderground
well you guys just wanna ruin all my fun, don't you?All of your "fun"? It's not "fun", it's considered being fraudulent. You are stealing. How would you like it if you ran a free hosting company (which, mind you, was funded by ads) and one of your customers ripped you off by somehow getting rid of the ads? If you don't want ads, find a free hosting service in which doesn't have ads or get paid hosting. What you are doing is wrong whether you realize it or not.

[rhsunderground]

i just emailed geocities telling them what i did and how easy the script is and how they should look for such scripts on their webpages. the evil genius in me is still an angel.

[pyro]

Originally posted by rhsunderground
the evil genius in me is still an angel. Hmm... why do I have a hard time believing that this would have been the corse of action you would have taken had we not been pointing out the reasons not to? Oh yes, because you originally came on here boasting and bragging that you did it. :rolleyes:

[Scriptage]

I don't understand why you are all being so hard on the guy.
Don't you remember your first webpage? Probably on tripod or geocities...Eventually no matter who you are, you strive to get rid of those really annoying pop ups.
I know a lot of people who have, I know I have. The point is: This javascript newbie has been able to code something that stops the pop ups... I say good for him! We all code, gain knowledge, even try to protect our source from the world on the way to being an established programmer / scripter. It's a learning curve and I bet most of you out there have done it. If none of you have then you are better men/women than me.
As you gain knowledge you aquire a greater respect for the world wide web and the people it involves.
One day he will be on a forum somewhere saying exactly what you have said.
Don't be high and mighty about things that are natural. If someone says " I bet you can't code this " then being a programmer the first thing you'll do is try to program it. You know its true ;)

Regards

[Paul Jr]

Originally posted by Scriptage
I don't understand why you are all being so hard on the guy.
Don't you remember your first webpage? Probably on tripod or geocities...Eventually no matter who you are, you strive to get rid of those really annoying pop ups.
I know a lot of people who have, I know I have. The point is: This javascript newbie has been able to code something that stops the pop ups... I say good for him! We all code, gain knowledge, even try to protect our source from the world on the way to being an established programmer / scripter. It's a learning curve and I bet most of you out there have done it. If none of you have then you are better men/women than me.
As you gain knowledge you aquire a greater respect for the world wide web and the people it involves.
One day he will be on a forum somewhere saying exactly what you have said.
Don't be high and mighty about things that are natural. If someone says " I bet you can't code this " then being a programmer the first thing you'll do is try to program it. You know its true ;)

Regards

Hey, I've got to agree there. Also, it seems that the geocities popups have become more annoying. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think you can close them anymore... :confused:

[rhsunderground]

i appreciate the sympathy. as of yet, i have received no reply from yahoo! and all of the webpages that i control (except for the high school's and now the underground's) are through geocities. the underground was my first attempt to do anything about the advertisements i had loathed for so long. i was proud at the time. yahoo! can still kiss my pooper, though, for if someone as javascript-impaired as me can block their ads, they have problems.

[Paul Jr]

Originally posted by rhsunderground
for if someone as javascript-impaired as me can block their ads, they have problems.

I'm not really sure how much money Yahoo! would want to spend to keep their free hosting free. It'd be much easier for them to boot whoever is blocking their ads...

[AdamBrill]

Originally posted by rhsunderground
for if someone as javascript-impaired as me can block their ads, they have problems. There is no way to make it hard to block the ads. They know that people can block them, believe me. It's also not that hard to hack onto your hosts computer and delete data. Does that make it right? Is it the hosts fault for having security problems? I think not. Breaching the contract is just plain wrong.

To all who defended him: Like I already stated, blocking the adds is wrong, plain and simple. When someone comes on and posts something like rhsunderground did, they should get told that it is wrong. You shouldn't oppose those of us who think you should follow those agreements that you agreed to. :rolleyes:

Also, rhsunderground, don't expect a reply from Yahoo! They probably receive 1,000 of the exact same e-mail every day, and they probably don't reply to them...

[rhsunderground]

Originally posted by AdamBrill
To all who defended him: Like I already stated, blocking the adds is wrong, plain and simple.
may i ask how many people change the channel when commercials come on the tv or the radio. how many people automatically close any pop-up ads when you go to another website (if you ever leave this one, which not be bad if you didn't)? does that make you a bad person? i know for a fact that they are funded by ads. the ads that i was blocking were for yahoo! itself, so they got no money from them. if someone was paying for those ads, i might feel a bit remorseful. and on the fact that it's not easy to block the ads,
Originally posted by AdamBrill
There is no way to make it hard to block the ads.

netfirms.com:D simply automatically puts their link and image banner at the top of the page. no javascript necessary. it's much better, though, because that doesn't cover anything that doesn't have an absolute position. i wonder how long this debate will last...:rolleyes:

[Paul Jr]

Originally posted by rhsunderground
may i ask how many people change the channel when commercials come on the tv or the radio.
People pay for their TV, so that really isn't applicable here.

[rhsunderground]

does that mean you steal your internet access and you stole your computer? wow, this is fun, almost.

[rhsunderground]

though on a personal note, well played with the homestar.

[AdamBrill]

rhsunderground, you are making very little sense. None of that is applicable since you didn't agree to a form saying you will watch the commercials. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Also, if you know how the DOM works, you can get rid of any ads that they put on the page... I don't care how they put them on there.

[rhsunderground]

perhaps i am making little sense, but perhaps i'm just running on 3 hours of sleep. yes, i am. i never agreed that i would look at the ads, either. i simply said (after i bothered reading the TOS) that geocities has the right to show their ads. 50 years ago, blacks had the right to vote, but their were many things in their way. that's almost completely irrelevant, but oh well. all i want to say to save my hide is that some people will yet at me for doing this (as is evident by a few of these posts), while others will pat me on the back and say, "good job, rookie," and even more have said and probably will continue to email me saying "i want this script." it is a no-win situation for me, because i cannot appeal to the masses, because the masses don't know what they want. many of you want to kill me, but there's a list, so please wait your turn.

[Paul Jr]

Originally posted by rhsunderground
does that mean you steal your internet access and you stole your computer? wow, this is fun, almost.
No, it means that since you did not pay a single cent to Yahoo! for their services, you have no right to remove their ads, which they place there to keep you from having to pay money to get your hosting.

[sonnyrizo]

13. ADVERTISEMENTS AND PROMOTIONS
Yahoo runs advertisements and promotions on Yahoo GeoCities Sites. By creating your Yahoo GeoCities Site, you agree that Yahoo has the right to run such advertisements and promotions.

This does not state that the person must leave the ads there. Therefore, technically speaking, the person is not breaking the contract by removing the ads.

This merely states that Yahoo! has the right to run them. No one disagrees. They do have the right to run the ads, but there is a difference between running the ads and the right to run them. They explain that they have the right.

People over the age of 18 are given the right to vote in the USA. However, they are not obligated to vote. Yahoo does not obligate itself to run the ads, and certainly does not mention that a person is not allowed to remove the ads. It tells the person that he/she must agree to the right of running the ads, not that the person should leave the ads.

[pyro]

By removing the ads, you are removing Yahoo's "right" to run the ad. :rolleyes:

[fredmv]

It's called common sense. If you ran a hosting company in which depended on ads, would you like your users getting around them somehow? Of course not.

[sonnyrizo]

Originally posted by pyro
By removing the ads, you are removing Yahoo's "right" to run the ad. :rolleyes:

Makes sense. I didnt think of it like that. Maybe if I think longer about this, I can think of a way to get around the contract..lol

[pyro]

Don't try to hard. ;) You're best off leaving things like that along...

[rhsunderground]

the debate lingers on...
It's called common sense. If you ran a hosting company in which depended on ads, would you like your users getting around them somehow? Of course not.
Yahoo! isn't being run off of its own ads. if you read 2600 magazine, volume 19, number 1, page 8+9 (as i am sure several of the members here read 2600) there is an article about cookies and web bugs. on my geocities websites, there is at least one web bug on each page that collects information, mainly in the form of third party cookies, about you, the viewer. they sell the information to whomever wants it. even as i write this message, bugnosis bugnosis.com (http://www.bugnosis.com) detects 3 such web bugs on this page. it's quite the world we live in.

[AdamBrill]

Originally posted by rhsunderground
the debate lingers on...

Yahoo! isn't being run off of its own ads. if you read 2600 magazine, volume 19, number 1, page 8+9 (as i am sure several of the members here read 2600) there is an article about cookies and web bugs. on my geocities websites, there is at least one web bug on each page that collects information, mainly in the form of third party cookies, about you, the viewer. they sell the information to whomever wants it. even as i write this message, bugnosis bugnosis.com (http://www.bugnosis.com) detects 3 such web bugs on this page. it's quite the world we live in. And what do they sell? My IP address? I could really care less how many people get the information that my browser sent out, so go ahead and sell it. See if I care. I can't believe that they really find anyone that pays them for it, though, since none of the information is useful.

The bottom line is this: By removing the ads(in whatever way you choose), you are violating the license agreement that you agreed to. If the ads bother you so much, why not find a free host that doesn't have ads??? People decide they would rather violate a license than just find a host that doesn't have ads in the first place. That fact has confused me for quite some time...

[rhsunderground]

Originally posted by rhsunderground
well you guys just wanna ruin all my fun, don't you? the interesting thing is that the pop-ups only are guaranteed to not show up if you refresh the page. kinda weird, but it happens. anyways, i've actually switched servers again to netfirms so we can use ftp. we're going through servers like Cher goes through skin.
if you will note from my earlier post, i don't use geocities for the underground anymore.

[taco]

Originally posted by rhsunderground
if anyone else besides me is still using free geocities, i've discovered a way to keep the pop-ups from coming up on your pages. i just used their own javascripts against them. email if you want it, because they'll probably hire an assassin if i post it here.

hey, i really need one please. i did email you like a week ago, i wasnt sure if you have my email yet. Thanks. i really want them annoying popups off really badly. my email is mrtitansfan@yahoo.com

[fredmv]

Originally posted by taco
i really want them annoying popups off really badly.Then find a host in which doesn't have pop-ups.

[taco]

i rather keep geocities, i joined here because i seen rhsundergrounds's post about the javscript and i wanted it lol

thanks anyways

[Paul Jr]

Originally posted by taco
i really want them annoying popups off really badly.
Your logic is confusing. You'd rather keep Geocities as your host, but you really want the annoying ads off your site really badly. :confused:

The only logical solution would be to get a new host...

[Daniel T]

i dont see y u wouldnt want to change ur host. geocities is the worst host i have ever seen, there are many good hosts out there for free that offer higher bandwidth and no adds. WebMatrixHosting (http://europe.webmatrixhosting.net/) and FreeWebs (http://www.freewebs.com/) to name a couple.
-Dan