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WolfShade
03-18-2011, 10:17 AM
Hello, everyone.

Used to be that I could peruse this forum unmolested by advertisements, other than banner ads (which I have no issues with.)

Lately, however, this has changed. Every day, the first time I come here to either ask or offer advice, when I click the button to submit an entry into the forum, I am redirected to a "welcome" page that contains a small Flash ad, with a link to "Skip this ad".

When I click on "Skip this ad", I get a blank screen and what I want to submit to the forum gets lost.

This is annoying.

WTF happened, and how do I get around it?

Thanks,

^_^

Kor
03-18-2011, 10:42 AM
Hello, everyone.

Used to be that I could peruse this forum unmolested by advertisements, other than banner ads (which I have no issues with.)

Lately, however, this has changed. Every day, the first time I come here to either ask or offer advice, when I click the button to submit an entry into the forum, I am redirected to a "welcome" page that contains a small Flash ad, with a link to "Skip this ad".

When I click on "Skip this ad", I get a blank screen and what I want to submit to the forum gets lost.

This is annoying.

WTF happened, and how do I get around it?

Thanks,

^_^

Weird. That's the first time I hear about that. That does not happen to me. Anyway, you have nobody to complain about that, these days, as we have no Admin, for the moment. Joe left the company, and I have no idea if and who is the new Admin :)

WolfShade
03-18-2011, 10:49 AM
Seriously?? I had no idea this was run by a company.

Hope Joe didn't leave on a bad note. I dislike confrontations and discontent.

(I'm trying out my new signature.. whaddaya think?)

Kor
03-18-2011, 10:52 AM
Well... :(
http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=243604

WolfShade
03-18-2011, 11:08 AM
Pretty sad. I hope he lands on his feet.

clueful
03-18-2011, 11:27 AM
Do you mean to say you're not surfing with Firefox and NoScript, which also blocks Flash? I wouldn't recommend it.

WolfShade
03-18-2011, 12:55 PM
NORMALLY, I would develop for FireFox and make adjustments for IE; but the company for which my current contract is placed forces their staff to use IE7 (although some computers do have IE8) and all work done is for internal use, only, not for public access (internal web apps.) So, even though I do have FF and Chrome installed, I use IE7 the most.

Kor
03-18-2011, 01:36 PM
There are FlashBlockers even for IE, I think.
http://www.ie7pro.com/ad-blocker.html
or
http://flash.melameth.com/

I use FlashBlockers for years. I hate unwanted and aggressive advertise :)

WolfShade
03-22-2011, 11:10 AM
Unfortunately, the FlashBlockers won't prevent the redirects, which are still happening. This is really getting on my last nerve.

Kor
03-22-2011, 12:45 PM
Unfortunately, the FlashBlockers won't prevent the redirects, which are still happening. This is really getting on my last nerve.
There are also re-direct preventing possibilities.

But: why don't you enter straight into your user account? Should be:
http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/usercp.php

As far as can see there is no redirect there.

brad jones
03-24-2011, 07:35 PM
Going through one ad a day is a small price to pay to use a forum in my opinion.

As to getting the blank screen after clicking skip this ad, I'm not sure what that is about. Do you have ad blocker software or something running that is messing up the normal flow? When you click "skip" you should continue right along to where you were headed.

The ad is cookied, so you should not see it more than once a day on this forum.

Brad!

WolfShade
03-26-2011, 07:40 PM
Going through one ad a day is a small price to pay to use a forum in my opinion.

As to getting the blank screen after clicking skip this ad, I'm not sure what that is about. Do you have ad blocker software or something running that is messing up the normal flow? When you click "skip" you should continue right along to where you were headed.

The ad is cookied, so you should not see it more than once a day on this forum.

Brad!

A) I don't just find information, here, I also contribute; that's the small price I don't mind paying.
B) No, not running any ad-blockers or flash-blockers or anything that could cause the blank screen.
C) I don't want to see it at all, not even once a month. When I'm forced to view an ad, I make a note to completely avoid whatever service or company is being advertised, so it's really counter-productive for whomever the ad is for, anyway.

WolfShade
05-18-2011, 12:36 PM
This annoying redirection had stopped, for a while. But it started, again.

So I've just added "www.webdeveloper.com/welcomead/" to my host list and am pointing it to 127.0.0.1.

It won't stop the redirection (which is what I really would like), but it will prevent me from seeing the ads, anymore.

pizzipie
06-07-2011, 11:59 AM
:)Hi, I have posted a few inqueries and tried using the tag before code and the tag after code. It doesn't seem to do anything. I expected the code to be all properly indented and color coded. Am I doing somthing wrong in how I use the tags??

Thanks in advance for helping.

Rick P

WolfShade
03-28-2012, 05:39 PM
The redirect to the ad is happening, again. How do I get it to stop? I should not have to click on "Skip This Ad".

Steve R Jones
03-29-2012, 03:51 AM
The ad goes away by itself in about 15 seconds... Maybe when you see it you could go get something to drink and it'll be gone when you get there:eek:

WolfShade
03-29-2012, 10:48 PM
Not very supportive. Anyone else know how to get this to stop? It had stopped for a long time, and suddenly it starts, again.

Steve R Jones
03-30-2012, 03:47 AM
Technically, it solves your problem 100% on not having to make that ONE Click... Personally I think the ONE Click would be easier...

The really good news is that "technically," discussions regarding "bypass or modify the features of the forum software" are against the rules here....and I haven't brought that up yet.

Did you by any Mega Million Dollar lottery tickets.. A small part of that could be used to make the ads go away:eek:

WolfShade
04-01-2012, 03:21 AM
Thanks for nothing.

WolfShade
04-02-2012, 08:40 PM
For whatever reason, it has stopped doing this, again. Whomever fixed it, thank you.

WolfShade
04-25-2012, 02:27 PM
It does it, it doesn't do it, it keeps going back and forth, now.

Steve R Jones
04-25-2012, 03:49 PM
It's an AD that helps support the site...which beats the heck out asking Members for money;)

ADS here are just like anywhere else - the company pays by the hour/day/week etc...

WolfShade
04-25-2012, 06:11 PM
As stated earlier in this thread, I don't just GET advice, here, I also offer advice. That's the price I don't mind paying.

The site also has all kinds of banner ads. Those I don't mind in the least. But when I click on the link to go into the JavaScript forum, and I'm instead redirected to a full page ad that I cannot see, anyway, it's extremely annoying.

wh666-666
04-25-2012, 08:00 PM
Seriously?? I had no idea this was run by a company.

Quite a big one in fact, you would be surprised how many sister sites there are.

They pull this re-direction garbage because most people block other ads like banners.







Going through one ad a day is a small price to pay to use a forum in my opinion.
It's an AD that helps support the site...which beats the heck out asking Members for money;)

ADS here are just like anywhere else - the company pays by the hour/day/week etc...
In my opinion and others it would seem, you are both completely wrong.

Banner ads are one thing, textual link ads turn people off and redirection ads just annoy everyone to the point they stop frequenting your site. Riddle me this, if you annoy your members enough to the point that they stop posting answers to peoples questions, that means you get less expected and unique hits per day, thus you earn less.

So the best method here is to aim to earn less, to have a better hit rate and actually earn more.

I run several sites myself (I dont just spend all my time frequenting others) and I am fully aware of the costs. However I am fully aware of the revenue that can be obtained off just one banner on a site that has a high hit rate and good SEO. Especially one linked in with other sites.

Oh hi steve! Also I would like to add, that to charge on sites nowadays, you have to offer A LOT more than just a forum. If you want to charge for access to sites like this, you're daydreaming.

Steve R Jones
04-26-2012, 04:26 AM
Hey wh666-666 - long time no see:p

If it'll make you guys feel any better... I get the ads once on my home computer and again when I get to the office...and the same thing happens on a couple of sister sites ..The ONE CLICK it takes to skip the ads doesn't bother me one little bit.

Only the high volume sites get the wonderful ad... And WebDev is one of those sites.

Bottom line - the ads are here to stay;)

WolfShade
04-26-2012, 12:43 PM
Okay. If I see it one more time, I'll be messaging you to cancel my account.

Steve R Jones
04-26-2012, 03:54 PM
No need to send anyone a message. Just delete your bookmark.

Good luck finding another site where you know and trust some of the guys for ten years... I noticed that you Started 165 threads asking for help... And odds are you picked up tid bits of info while you're helping others... Maybe you're getting more from this site than you realize.

One last question - why do you have sooooo muchhhhhh time to post in this thread over the past 13 months - but that one little click kills you when you click on it?

WolfShade
04-26-2012, 10:05 PM
It's annoying. If you don't mind it, you don't mind it. I do. It's a lie. I click on a link to go into a forum, and I get a blank page with a "SKIP THIS AD" link. I'm not taken to the link I clicked on. It is dishonest, bait-and-switch, and I'm tired of it.

UPDATE:

And now it has successfully interfered with my ability to post an answer to someone's question in the JavaScript forum. I had a nice solution all typed out, and when I clicked the POST button, I get that ****ing ad, again, and when I click the link to skip the ad, I get a blank page. Refreshing does nothing, it's still a blank page.

When I go through and find the post again, my solution has not been entered. Gone. Lost.

I HATE THE AD REDIRECT!

Steve R Jones
04-27-2012, 06:16 AM
But since you know the ads aren't going away - you're learning to live with it. Right;)

About the Update... Posting....

After you clicked the "Reply to Thread" button - approx how much time went by before you clicked the "Submit Reply" button? Did it take maybe five minutes or was it possibly longer then 30 minutes?

brad jones
04-27-2012, 09:16 AM
How it should be working is that the 'welcome ad' should be shown, you should be able click 'skip' or wait 15 seconds and then be sent on your way to where you were headed. If something else is happening different than this, then something isn't working correctly. If you are getting sent to a different (blank) page, then something is not working correctly.

If something isn't working correctly, then the first question is, what browser are you using and what add-ins are you running? If there are any ad blockers, then those can cause issues. If not, then we'd have to look a little deeper.

Is anyone else getting redirected to a blank page? Is anyone not getting forwarded to the page they were headed to? Is this a one-off issue, or are others running into an issue too?


As a side note:
The best way to get rid of an ad is to not click on it (other than the skip link). The bottom line is - if an ad doesn't get clicked, it will go away because it won't justify itself. If people click on an ad, then it is likely to stick around.

WolfShade
04-27-2012, 09:26 AM
But since you know the ads aren't going away - you're learning to live with it. Right;)

No. I'm done. Goodbye and good riddance. Mostly because of the REDIRECT not being removed, but also because I can't stand smug assholes who over-estimate the value of what they are doing, and are convinced that their "service" cannot be replaced.

criterion9
04-27-2012, 10:17 AM
FWIW...I get sent back to the ad continuously at random...sometimes I see it only when arriving to the forum, and other times I get thrown back as though I just arrived after browsing threads. It sounds/looks to me like something isn't quite working properly.

Steve R Jones
04-27-2012, 10:27 AM
Thanks... The IT and AD department people are looking into making sure the AD works properly.

It seems to work fine for me using FF 11.0

brad jones
04-27-2012, 10:46 AM
FWIW...I get sent back to the ad continuously at random...sometimes I see it only when arriving to the forum, and other times I get thrown back as though I just arrived after browsing threads. It sounds/looks to me like something isn't quite working properly.


I just saw it come up again as well, so something is not correct. We already have people looking at it to make sure it is working correctly. I'll let them know we have multiple people saying something is off.

Note that if you have cookies turned off in your browser, that -might- cause it to show multiple times.

wh666-666
04-27-2012, 11:39 AM
And now it has successfully interfered with my ability to post an answer to someone's question in the JavaScript forum. I had a nice solution all typed out, and when I clicked the POST button, I get that ****ing ad, again, and when I click the link to skip the ad, I get a blank page. Refreshing does nothing, it's still a blank page.

When I go through and find the post again, my solution has not been entered. Gone. Lost.

I HATE THE AD REDIRECT!

I've had similar things happen on other sites, type something out, then the site decides to die as you hit submit :mad: :mad:


Now, if I ever write a long post, I ctrl+c the field before hitting submit because sods law, the site or my connection will decide to die right at that moment,

spufi
04-27-2012, 06:09 PM
Good luck finding another site where you know and trust some of the guys for ten years

No. I'm done. Goodbye and good riddance. Mostly because of the REDIRECT not being removed, but also because I can't stand smug assholes who over-estimate the value of what they are doing, and are convinced that their "service" cannot be replaced.

I have to chime in here and kind of agree with WolfShade. This isn't the only web development forum on the internet. Hell, it's not even the busiest. If somebody wants to look elsewhere to find a more tolerable forum to deal with, then it's rather easy to do. I post on other forums. I know others here do since I see their aliases there as well. The ten year aspect doesn't factor into it. It's the quality of info that you get from the forum. Again, not exactly that difficult to find elsewhere.

It seems to work fine for me using FF 11.0

Which the OP has stated they aren't using while at work since work limits them to IE.

Steve R Jones
04-28-2012, 03:52 AM
Which the OP has stated they aren't using while at work since work limits them to IE.

Spufi - I don't do web development. Do you?

It's my understanding that getting members here to post their browser version number and a Works/Doesn't Work statement would assist our guys in determining where the problems might be.

So far we know that IE7 has issues and FF 11 doesn't.

NogDog
04-28-2012, 08:12 PM
I browse with Firefox with the AdBlock add-on, so I don't even know what you guys are talking about. ;)

JPnyc
04-29-2012, 06:19 PM
Hey folks, long time no speak. Yeah I found that ad very annoying, too. Actually all ads are annoying, wherever they appear.

wh666-666
04-29-2012, 06:35 PM
Hi JP, hope you're keeping well?

JPnyc
04-29-2012, 06:54 PM
Yup, great, thanks. I work for CNBC now. Senior developer on their web and mobile sites. How goes?

wh666-666
04-29-2012, 07:01 PM
Wow that's great, glad to hear it worked out for you!

Im ok thanks, just contracting as per usual. Getting a bit tired of it to be honest!

JPnyc
04-29-2012, 07:03 PM
If you lived a bit closer I could get you a job. I got one for one of my former coworkers at draft, where I worked before CNBC. There is tons of work in this city and the surrounding areas for developers these days. I had to pull my resumes off the web because they wouldn't leave me alone. Recruiters constantly emailing and calling, 6-12 per day. Ever thought of venturing across the pond?

JPnyc
04-29-2012, 07:04 PM
Oh and hello Charles.:D

criterion9
04-30-2012, 06:36 AM
My issues with the ads are happening on chrome.

NogDog
04-30-2012, 07:12 PM
Oh and hello Charles.:D

Hey, JP. I'm working up in your neck of the woods now in Lyndhurst NJ. Helluva commute -- but I'm looking to get an apartment up there pretty soon.

JPnyc
05-01-2012, 09:06 AM
I'm on the westside of Manhattan, but now I work in northern jersey, yep. Fortunately the co. runs a shuttle to and from ;)

wh666-666
05-19-2012, 09:24 AM
If you lived a bit closer I could get you a job. I got one for one of my former coworkers at draft, where I worked before CNBC. There is tons of work in this city and the surrounding areas for developers these days. I had to pull my resumes off the web because they wouldn't leave me alone. Recruiters constantly emailing and calling, 6-12 per day. Ever thought of venturing across the pond?

Wow, that is vastly different to the UK. Over here, many factors are affecting job roles from the recession, with companies not spending money on large projects to foreign companies underbidding UK companies on major nationwide contracts, then getting UK workers to train up foreign workers who will work for a few pounds an hour.

I used to have recruiters calling me all the time as well. Nowadays there is still a steady stream of work, but clients aren't throwing endless sums around.

I would like to venture across the pond at some point, but I'm unsure whether I could get in on visa regs. It might be worth a try at some point though.

One thing I was thinking of doing in a few years, once I've sold off all my property and gone back to renting, is to travel the world a bit. I thought a good way to do this would be to offer my skills to people, anywhere from physical to technical, for board and food.