Contest

[jrbp]

If you would like to enter a site design contest please go to http://tutorialman.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=449#449



The winner gets free hosting with 500mb of space, 5gb of bandwidth, PHP, MYSQL, subdomains, ftp accounts, and email accounts.

If the winning design is really good I will double the amount space!

[PeOfEo]

be nice if there were more guidlines, like graphics and other stuff, does it need to just be a layout have secondaries etc. I would rather not upload to someones server either, I would rather host it myself.

[jrbp]

you can host it on your own server if you want, just post a screen shot or a link to it at the link i posted. Also if you click on that link you will see an example of what im looking for.

[zachzach]

http://www.subsilvernet.com/
http://www.subsilvernet.com/im/index.htm
http://www.blumec.com
All three of those sites are in progress. I have redone the design in CSS, but i left that on because it looks a bit better
View them in Microsoft Internet Explorer

Free domain oooooooo!
Umm all three of those were made by me.Do we have to give you the design(i will if i get all of that stuff)


Umm...also.....how about 2 domains?Just wondering...lolz

[Paul Jr]

I doubt anyone will make anything closely resembling that example layout for anything less than cash.

[jrbp]

The winner will get free hosting and domain name in return for the site design.

Also please post all final submisions at http://tutorialman.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=449#449 this makes it easier to view all entries instead of having to go back and forth.

[jrbp]

Originally posted by Paul Jr
I doubt anyone will make anything closely resembling that example layout for anything less than cash.

If a design similar to the one i posted is created i will double the prize.

[Paul Jr]

You post a link to an image of a template as an example -- why not just use that template?

[zachzach]

if you gave me the images, i could but them up and make a layout that looked EXACTLY like that, sept i could change text and it would be in css, and valid xhtml

[Paul Jr]

Originally posted by zachzach
if you gave me the images, i could but them up and make a layout that looked EXACTLY like that, sept i could change text and it would be in css, and valid xhtml
http://forums.webdeveloper.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24488

[AdamBrill]

Originally posted by zachzach
if you gave me the images, i could but them up and make a layout that looked EXACTLY like that, sept i could change text and it would be in css, and valid xhtml
http://forums.webdeveloper.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24488 Yeah, I was wondering about that myself. :rolleyes:

[zachzach]

its one thing to redo a 350 line code origanaly made in tables

but cutting images and doing only a little xhtml and css to jusat make the images fit, no problem

im no css dummy
jsut not a master

[Paul Jr]

Originally posted by zachzach
its one thing to redo a 350 line code origanaly made in tables

but cutting images and doing only a little xhtml and css to jusat make the images fit, no problem

im no css dummy
jsut not a master
Editting the original code of your site would be nearly impossible, or just really, really hard; starting from scratch would be a bit laborous, but easier than the latter method.


***EDIT***
If that doesn't make much sense, I will attempt to get to the gist of it in another post.

[jrbp]

the image i posted was A. not mine and B. not for sale

[Paul Jr]

Originally posted by jrbp
the image i posted was A. not mine and B. not for sale
Is that all it was, just an image? There is no accompanying layout, from which the image came into existance?

[zachzach]

make a layout how you want it in a image program
then, just cut it up, and lay it out in a page
and absolute positioin text over the images

[jrbp]

it was a screen shot

the problem is the whole graphics part, i suck at graphics

[pyro]

Originally posted by zachzach
make a layout how you want it in a image program
then, just cut it up, and lay it out in a page
and absolute positioin text over the images Wrong answer... Bad style, doncha know? Styling documents with CSS goes far beyond absolutly positioning every element, in a desprate attempt to somehow hack out something that resembles what you are looking for.

[Paul Jr]

Originally posted by pyro
Wrong answer... Bad style, doncha know? Styling documents with CSS goes far beyond absolutly positioning every element, in a desprate attempt to somehow hack out something that resembles what you are looking for.
I was thinking the same thing.

[zachzach]

lolz i just mean if you have a bad graphic program and can't add in good text(like me[no wonder!!]!!), then you can always put text over it(doesn't need as good of a picture editer)

[pyro]

So you were suggesting what, then? That they simply overlay the text in a graphics editor, and upload the image as their site? :rolleyes:

[Paul Jr]

Originally posted by zachzach
lolz i just mean if you have a bad graphic program and can't add in good text(like me[no wonder!!]!!), then you can always put text over it(doesn't need as good of a picture editer)
I don't think that is what Pyro meant. Also, using a graphics program to put text on your page is... uhm... bad? Why would you use images as text? Text is text, that's why it's text, and not images, which it isn't, and shouldn't ever be, unless there's a good reason for it -- which seems highly unlikely.

[zachzach]

uhg
havn't you ever seen tabs or something thats an image that has text on it
thats what i meant
you guys r evil
either that or good at showing my mistakes every time i say something
lol
pyro every time i say something im wrong or not totaly rite
ahhhhhhhh
i feel trapped
help........
^^^^
lol im just kiddin
:P

[Paul Jr]

Originally posted by zachzach
uhg
havn't you ever seen tabs or something thats an image that has text on it
thats what i meant
What's that got to do with:

Absolutely positioning all your text to get it where you want it.
Using a graphics editor to basically create your entire layout, including the text.

[AdamBrill]

Originally posted by zachzach
make a layout how you want it in a image program
then, just cut it up, and lay it out in a page
and absolute positioin text over the images

...

im no css dummy
jsut not a masterIf your idea of a CSS design is absolutely positioning div's with images in them, you have much to learn. A good place to start would be to learn what to do with CSS. In my opinion, postion:absolute; is something that is WAY overused. I would almost go so far as to say that it should be depreciated in the next version of CSS, since there are very, very few(if any) places where it is needed.

[zachzach]

why do u torture me!!!!
lolz
okok i suck but i can do it eventually if im motovated lol
plus ur off topic ;)

[PeOfEo]

I can see it now, pyro submits WWW.RYANBRILL.COM :o . I am still working on my new layout, tweaking it, but eventually, one day when I get motivated, Ill do the content.

[zachzach]

really pyro guna beat the ever loving **** out of our designs...:(pyro need to go and go make the new yahoo of the web and stop winning all the amature contests--jk lolz

[Paul Jr]

I suck at graphics work, and therefore use very little, if any, graphics in any of the sites I make, and therefore would not come close to winning.

[pyro]

And I have little need or interest in the prize for this contest, and probably will not participate. If I do, it will be to create another portfolio piece. ;)

Have fun, anyone who does compete. :)

[zachzach]

yea we wont have the crap beaten out of us
and thats a good thing
i think....OK anywayz

[PeOfEo]

bah I don't have time for it, I have too much other stuff going on in my life, I do not have time to be a nerd code monkey at my comp all day and work up some masterpeice. Making good graphics takes forever, I can't do it in a deadline. Graphic design is hard for me.

[Paul Jr]

This is going to turn into another M$ Bashing thread. I.e., miles long with off-topic gibberish.

[PeOfEo]

how has this been off topic, we are still talking about the contest.

[Paul Jr]

Originally posted by Paul Jr
This is going to turn into another M$ Bashing thread. I.e., miles long with off-topic gibberish.
As in, it has not yet, but the chance of it happening in the near future is high.

[zachzach]

haha im winning the contest anyway!bahah
lolz
for once in my life, im winnign a contest
i always lose in contests
my luck has fianaly changed wu-ho!

[AdamBrill]

Originally posted by Paul Jr
As in, it has not yet, but the chance of it happening in the near future is high. All I'll say is this: The chances of this happening are getting higher with each of your "off-topic" posts. :rolleyes:

Let's not get this thread off-topic by saying that it is going to get off-topic, ok?

[PeOfEo]

yes you will jinx it, it has not gone off topic yet so lets not push it, ok back to the topic IT WAS ABOUT THE CONTEST.

[jrbp]

Pyro, PeOfEo, and Paul Jr. Please do participate in this contest as it will show who is the better web developer, or if you are to chicken...

[PeOfEo]

Lol... I do not need to prove myself, I am secure with my masculentity. Plus I do not have time to finish my site right now, I need to do content, it is just a template layout right now and will not truely be done without content. That is a bunch of rainy days work and I do not like working when there is a deadline. (Plus I would get owned in the area of graphics design). How are you going to judge this anyway, because all of us would give you a page that is accessable, valid on multible validators by xhtml or html 4.01 strict standards, and they would look good on most browsers (all the major ones to say the least). So when it comes right down to it, it would be aestetic appeal and I can't do photoshop magic :P

[pyro]

Originally posted by jrbp
Pyro, PeOfEo, and Paul Jr. Please do participate in this contest as it will show who is the better web developer, or if you are to chicken...
That is so lame... :rolleyes:

Look at the links in my sig, if you question my ability as a designer. I don't have time (or desire, anymore) to do free work on your site... As I stated above, I do not need nor want the "prizes" you would be giving away, and the only reason I would compete would be to create a piece for my portfolio. But, I know of enough other sites I could better spend my time creating a design for, if I get in the mood (and finish the ones I have lined up).

[jrbp]

It will be voted by which is best looking and the best construction, for instance if it is one big image map that looks good then it will not win but if it is well constructed and looks good then it will win.

I will include 2 Domain names if Pyro, PeOfEo, and Paul Jr enter the contest, but only if they/you do.

[PeOfEo]

btw your prizes are not attractive to me either, I use w2k3 server and asp.net, what the heck am I going to do with php hosting? Plus I have hosting up the ying yang already.

[jrbp]

yeah my response was lame but it was the first thing that came to mind.

also Pyro, if you win i will put a link to your site at the bottom of my page

[AdamBrill]

Originally posted by jrbp
Pyro, PeOfEo, and Paul Jr. Please do participate in this contest as it will show who is the better web developer, or if you are to chicken... Should be like this:

"I need some free work done. I'm going to call you chicken if you don't do it. I hope this works to 'force' the people to participate." :rolleyes:

Originally posted by PeOfEo
what the heck am I going to do with php hosting?I can think of one good thing. :p :p

[PeOfEo]

Originally posted by jrbp
yeah my response was lame but it was the first thing that came to mind.

also Pyro, if you win i will put a link to your site at the bottom of my page And a banner saying this was made by pyro not me, bow before him?

[jrbp]

then what would be attractive? Cash?

[PeOfEo]

Originally posted by AdamBrill


I can think of one good thing. :p :p I AM NOT LEARNING PHP! (or sticking the hosting plan up my butt because thats the only other thing I can think off, and it sounds painful)

[PeOfEo]

Originally posted by jrbp
then what would be attractive? Cash? Then you would be paying for site work

[pyro]

Cash is always good, but would (possibly) consider for other reasons. Either way, I'm not sure I have time for this right now.

[jrbp]

so what do you want then?

[PeOfEo]

he wants your soul... can't you tell? So now two of us have said we have a bunch of other stuff qued up (not to mention redoing my whole forum which I have been wanting to do)

[Paul Jr]

Hey, PHP hosting sounds good, as well as Cash, but I really have nothing quite up to par, and I'm not really in the mood to create something. I have a designer's block. I suck at Photoshopping anything into my sites, so I rarely use graphics at all.

Anyhoo, aspfreeserver's hosting just went the way of the dodo -- now you gotta pay, so I have no place to host any of my stuff. I've got three sites that I have deemed half-way worthy that I have recently worked on that were accessible via the link in my Sig., but I have no more hosting! *Cries*

Also, if you wish to get some free work, insulting people to get them to do it is not the way to go.

[PeOfEo]

looks like mod you sig linked sites all the heck up then :rolleyes:

[Paul Jr]

Originally posted by PeOfEo
looks like mod you sig linked sites all the heck up then :rolleyes:
I beg your pardon? :confused:


To add to my last post, if given images to work with, I am just fine, it's the creating of images I have trouble with ;). I had an acount at t35.com, but since I used, and will use any hosting, mainly for my testing/research/practice purposes, they might've thought I was using it only for storage, and therefore canceled my acount. Also, at the time, I did not like that they inserted some odd HTML for a link to an external JS file for an ad, although they say they have no ads, and I saw none to speak of, the inserted code threw off my validation, which I did not like, but am not bothered by now.

[PeOfEo]

host urself for that. Run your own server for the testing purposes like the rest of us. Apache is free and the chances are you already have IIS if you are running a windows box. But I aggree if we had images to work with it might be better, but then again i can't use the layout as a temp for personal use and just submit it on the side which would be the only way I entered is if I finished my new site. Even then i do not know if I would want someone else using it... unless they left credit in the source or something. Also you all have the idea of what my new layout looks like so it would take away all of the suprise :p

[Paul Jr]

Yes, I could do that, but I would also like someplace, not only for testing, but where people could visit, and see my current work. I happen to be on some really sucky dial-up, so the only thing a server is good for is for testing purposes. I am thinking about installing Apache, and will probably do so within the week.

[PeOfEo]

definatly install it, if nothing more then for running your own php. I all of my asp.net scripts out of one folder and that is a virtual dir on my server.

[Paul Jr]

Yes, I will do that, and probably sign up for another account at t35.com, they're pretty good, and I don't mind the **** inserted code.

[PeOfEo]

:/ Try going to www.flatface.net it is hard to get onto their server, they are a small operation running from a t1 (I think, could be t3 or oc-3), but they have excellent uptime and run a great service, like their modo says it is webhosting that doesnt suck. But the problem is they will only let a few people on so you have really turn on the touchy feely stuff to appeal to their emotions so they give you an account.

[jrbp]

If you want, instead of the hosting you can choose a $40 payment via paypal, if you win.

[AdamBrill]

Originally posted by zachzach
http://www.subsilvernet.com/
http://www.subsilvernet.com/im/index.htm
http://www.blumec.com
All three of those sites are in progress.Actually, at least for the first two, you didn't actually "make" them. :rolleyes:

http://forums.webdeveloper.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=129775#post129775

[jrbp]

and your name isn't on the site

[Paul Jr]

His name isn't on the site, I believe, because the one up there isn't the one Adam re-did.

[zachzach]

no i have not implemented, as i am still adjusting
and i have now subbmited my report to juno, and waiting for a reponse as to weather i may continue using it, or not
note:i just added a note to the bottom regarding the design.

[PunkSktBrdr01]

Originally posted by jrbp
If you would like to enter a site design contest please go to http://tutorialman.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=449#449


I'm getting:

"The topic or post you requested does not exist."

[AdamBrill]

Originally posted by PunkSktBrdr01
I'm getting:

"The topic or post you requested does not exist." Correct link:

http://tutorialman.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68

[TomDenver]

I predict Layout-A-Matic wins this one.

[PunkSktBrdr01]

My guess is you'll need Flash for a that sort of layout, or at least for the links. It is way too heavy on graphics, so loading time wouldn't be good, but at least Flash would let you have one of those loading screens... :rolleyes: