Cd burner help......

[modifier_guy]

i just bought a new samsung cd burner. i installed it, i hooked it up how it showed, got power to it the IDE cable in but it shows i need JUMPER plugs? i called the costomer service they say i need them, i talk to a few people they say i dont. the thing did not come with a driver Cd the guy aid when you start your computer it should pop up as new hardware but it hasnt. what to do, best buy want 50$ to install it and i want to do it myself i just paid 100$ for it. i dont know what else to do?

thanks BRYCE

[buntine]

Have you tried invoking the 'add new hardware wizard' manually from the control panel?

[modifier_guy]

nah it did not work, it said i can manualy instal but it was not listed and i dont have a drivers CD for it, they say it dont need one. what can i do? i just paid 100 and sum $ for it. could the IDE not be hooked up right, also it came with a new IDE would it hurt to replace my old one? i have 2 drives a DVD that came with it, then i put in the burner and hooked the burner to the old IDE cable. what can be wrong?

[buntine]

The drivers will be available on the Internet. Have you tryed searching for them?

The IDE cabel could be installed incorrectly, though, traditionally, if this the case--your system would not recognise the hardware at all or your PC would explode due to the incorrect measure of volts being passed to the CD ROM.

Regards,
Andrew Buntine.

[modifier_guy]

samsung the company i called and he said that the CD burner did not have drivers CD's or any thing, that when i installed it , then new hardware wizard would notice it, then he said that i needed jumper plugs then he wasnt to clear about it.

[buntine]

Take out the component and then reinstall it. If the 'new hardware found' wizard doesnt appear after that, call the supplier and yell at them.

[buntine]

Hey, just read your profile. Completely off topic, though, i have been skating for 5 years;)

If the preceding suggestion doesnt work, call Samsung and tell them you would like a refund. Didnt it even come with a users manual?

[Aronya1]

If Windows doesn't see it when you boot up, drivers won't help. They don't cause the OS to see new hardware. Try to get your BIOS to recognize it. If it isn't seen at that level, you have a hardware problem.

Jumpers should be available at any computer store for pennies, although they should have come with the drive if they are needed. Are you clear on what you're looking for?

[modifier_guy]

funny thing is, it has instructions on how to instal it but they are so confusing, writen in about 8 languages and so mixed up, but i got them figured out enuf to instal it. i beilve it is in right it is hooked up as it showed except for the jumpers it shows what they are but it did not come with them and the instructions barely said ne thing abotu them.

i ave heard alot about BIOS or whatever What are they.....??? i went ot the system settings during boot up, and it showed nothing for my new CD drive just my dvd. how do i turn bios on or what ever it is. f istill cant figure it out, i am yellin at samsung for making a crappy BUTT product

[modifier_guy]

ok i got into BIOS, and it showed the IDE slave as none so the guy on the phone from samsung said change type to CD rom, so i did then exit and let it boot, then go to my computer but it wasnt listed, and he said somethign about BIOS updates or something then hung up, i asked about the crappy instructions he said there for ppl who know what they are doing and i was like well that ****, how are new people who want to do it them selves supposed to do it and i was yelling about that. but anyways it still aint showing up, i think i am gonna take it back and get my money back!! peice of CRAP

NEVER BUY SAMSUNG

[Aronya1]

BIOS is your system setup. If your drive is not detected there, my guess is it doesn't work. Even if the jumpers are set improperly, it should be detected.

You never answered my question from before. Do you know what you're looking for when they talk about jumpers?

You could try disconnecting your existing drive & connecting the new one to the same location on that ribbon cable. If there's still nothing, the drive is bad.

My 2cts.

[modifier_guy]

i have an idea of jumpers, i have seen a picture, they are small plugs that are in the back of the drive telling what it is.

i am just gonna take it back, the guy on the phone was rude and the service has been bad, i dont want a product like this were the service is crap. i will take my money else were.

[Aronya1]

Roger that.

[modifier_guy]

ok i am gonna go buy some jumper plugs, i went into my BIOS and turned the went into the slave to turn it on but for some reason the settings were not staying so i figure i need the plugs, i have asked a few people who say i need them, hey dont hurt to try

[modifier_guy]

now i have heard from about 3 people i dont need Jumpers, then i look online and people say i need them. now i went into BIOS and went to the IDE slave and turned it onto CD rom. then i go to my computer to see if it worked NO it did not. so now i am guessing i need jumpers or this cd burner wont work. i unno i am gett frustrated and angry. and i dont wanna pay 50$ for best buy to add some jumpers and fix my BIOS if i can do it myself!

WHAT TO DO?..............

[PeOfEo]

Im telling you, you do not need jumpers, without them it will go to cable select. If bios sees it and it is set as ide2 or ide secondary slave or master you are set. Make sure it did not come with any firmwear or anything, if so install it.

[modifier_guy]

i went back into bios and now it is not seeing it. all it came with was nero burning software. it said it was plug and plug but i dont think so. i am really mad

[PeOfEo]

:rolleyes: This is why we have plug and play bios! If it is plugged in to the ide, and the drive works, ods are bios will see it... jumper or no jumper.

[hinshows]

Yo dude you need to put the "jumpers" on either Cable Select Or Master (if you dont have a drive already on the second IDE channel) or Slave (if you have a drive set as "Master" on IDE2" If you need more help, PM me.

[PeOfEo]

He does have a drive. But if neither have jumpers it goes back to cable select. I have been trying to tell him this for longer then the length of this thread.

[hinshows]

:D Yeah, I don't think the drive is bad, just a wrong configuration. Well I hope we can resolve this situation. :)

[modifier_guy]

ok i have a dvd player then i hooked up the burner below that. now from what i have seen i need to put jumpers on the drvies, to select what the drive is. my BIOS are not stayin i will selcet CD drive but it dont work, i am gonna buy jumpers

[PeOfEo]

you do not need jumpers on an optical drive. Infact you do not on an hd either... well some brands require you to have it on there but it is generally in cable select when you take it out of the packageing which is the default. If your drive did not come with a jumper then you do not need it, default is cable select it will be the slave if it is plugged into the slave slot on that ide cable (the second slot).

[Aronya1]

Peo, is that a note of frustration I detect? ;)

Originally posted by Aronya1
If Windows doesn't see it when you boot up, drivers won't help. They don't cause the OS to see new hardware. Try to get your BIOS to recognize it. If it isn't seen at that level, you have a hardware problem.

At this point, my money says the drive doesn't work.

[PeOfEo]

same here, and it is a bit of frustration lol. modfreak, this will make your drive work. Go into regedit and delete everything! :D j/k... dont rly do that... or we will be helping you with more stuff.

[Aronya1]

uh... Not if he doesn't have a registry!

[modifier_guy]

i am screwed, i cant take it back, i have no box or anyhting, and there is no way i am paying 60$ sum bux to have them turn on my bios the correct way and yea. owell just wasted 120$ it will now just sit

[modifier_guy]

o PeoFeo in the instructions how you said some things may require plugs, it shows in the manual that i need them but they are not included and when i called the company the 4 times theu say plugs are required.

MY COMPUTER IS 7 YEARS OLD, ON WINDOWS 98, AND 192MB OF RAM AND SUPER OLD AND SLOW

also when i go into BIOS to turn it to cd rom it will show cd rom then, i will go back into bios but it will then be set at empty, i saved and all cus i get a pop up saying to save it, and i hit yes.

[Aronya1]

This is new info. Guess we should have asked.

Did Samsung ask about the specs of your computer? Or did they do the same thing we have, and just assume a relatively current hardware config? I'm wondering now if you are trying to mix incompatible technologies.

[modifier_guy]

i checked the box it said windows 98 ect, and it worked.

the funny story, the Cd drive had a jumper, it was in the master slot, it just needed to be moved, i did that, went into BIOS changed it, then it was working! burnt a cd on 32x in 6 mins, it is rated at 52, but i only have 48x cds and at the high speeds they tend to skip so i wrote on 32x

THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP. YOU GUYS ARE GREAT

[Aronya1]

Kids!

Hey man, you made us all work hard. You owe us each a beer, I think. :D

[PeOfEo]

Ahhh... if your comp were a bit newer you would have plug and play bios and windows would have handled it and default cable select would have worked. Ok how much money do you have, if you have 400 bucks or so I am going to pick out parts for your new computer and you are going to put it together!

[Aronya1]

If he's got $400, I know he's buying the beer!

[PeOfEo]

Originally posted by Aronya1
If he's got $400, I know he's buying the beer! why buy beer when you can pirate it... wait no... thats software. Moonshine is what I am thinking of.

[Paul Jr]

Originally posted by PeOfEo
why buy beer when you can pirate it... wait no... thats software. Moonshine is what I am thinking of.
I've got a brandnew copper still in the backwoods here, I'll brew ye up some stuff. :p

[PeOfEo]

heh, paul is bringing the beer everyone!

[Aronya1]

Ah, I think that's the moonshine you asked for, Peo.

**sound of banjo music**

(faintly)"Yee ha!!"

Come an' listen to my story 'bout a man named Jed
A poor mountaineer, barely kep' his family fed
And then one day...

[modifier_guy]

Originally posted by PeOfEo
Ahhh... if your comp were a bit newer you would have plug and play bios and windows would have handled it and default cable select would have worked. Ok how much money do you have, if you have 400 bucks or so I am going to pick out parts for your new computer and you are going to put it together!

yo man. i got a good tower, and burner, we were thinking of upgradeing the motherboard, ram, video and sound cards for it, just some simple cheap things. i wanna start with a new mother board

[PeOfEo]

when you get a new mother board you also need a new processor, new ram, and probably a new case depending on when it was made. You will also need a new power supply. Everything needs to be atx compliant as far as case mobo and psu go. Then the proccessor and the ram have to be compdable with the motherboard. I was thinking along the lines of
processor: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-376&depa=1
motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-130-444&depa=0
ram: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-144-305&depa=0

I chose amd because it is cheaper then intel, you could get a cheaper amd proccessor then that but that is a very good processor and a few bucks more would be justified. I am loyal to msi I think they make good boards so that is why I reccomended one of theirs. I chose geil ram because I have been very satisfied with their ram and that is a very good stick and it is cheaper then competator equivalents.