.asp or asp.net

[chrismartz]

i am wondering what the big difference in asp and asp.net are....I was told that .net is easier...what is the truth?

[PeOfEo]

http://forums.webdeveloper.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29318 already a thread on this, and its sticky. ASP.NET is easier in my opinion, but I am not the best guy to listen to with that since I only use asp.net. But asp.net has a lot more scripting capability since all the languages are Object oriented and you have more syntax flexability, you can use a bit wider range of languages. ASP.NET is also better with event oriented programming and has its own controls specially designed for this, asp.net elements.

[buntine]

.NET is the step up.. Really, its the buggest thing in development since we moved from 16bit to 32bit in about 96.

Its only been around for a couple of years, so its still largely in its infantcy. Over the next few years, we will be seeing alot more .NET material on the internet.

The largest difference being the step up to a fully-featured Object Oriented Programming language (OOP).

ASP is still just as powerful and widely used as it has been in the past. Therefore, its probably best to get a grounding of classic ASP before you make the step up to ASP.NET.

Regards,
Andrew Buntine.

[PeOfEo]

I disaggree there, because I already know my vb so I would have had to learn vbscript to learn asp when I only use vbscript in one file using asp.net, and that is a config file. If you already know vb classic or vb.net then asp.net would be easier, if you already know vbscript asp classic would be easier... If you know java or php go with .net because you can use c# or j# etc.

[buntine]

Im very business oriented. So most of things i say are to conform to the best ways to make money.

The reason i think learning classic ASP first is a good idea -- you will get more work.. Theres more work floating around for ASP developers than there is for .NET developers. Sure, it will change.

Also, VB, ASP.NET and VBScript are extremely similar. They even use most of the same library functions. So once you have one, you have them all.

However, you are right, its not mandatory; some developers would even say it was a bad idea to learn ASP first.

Regards,
Andrew Buntine.

[PeOfEo]

like me :P I went straight to asp.net and just know a little asp classic.

[buntine]

You think it is a bad idea to learn ASP before .NET?

If so, Why?

[PeOfEo]

Because asp.net is very easy to use its self and we both aggree that sooner or later asp classic developers are going to want to move to the newer technology. Asp.net is more powerful then asp classic, from a business stadpoint I aggree with you, companies are conservative in nature and are not going to move over or redo pages to asp.net with any speed, but if you are just learning something to learn it or you are not doing corperate web design but rather a little freelance work where the technology does not matter so much as the price the client sees it would be advantagious to use asp.net.

[buntine]

Right.

Though, .NET is not an appropriate language to learn just for a 'bit of freelance work'.

Most .NET enabled servers are corporateised and pricey. Yes, I know about webmatrix. :p

Agreed, it would be advantagious -- why would this make learning classic ASP a bad idea?

Regards.

[PeOfEo]

Well when you have a corvette sitting next to a commarrow and you can steal one or the other (forget about police and stuff like that for second) you are going to steal the vette because it is a more powerful machine right?