Please review this site, thanks a lot

[laivcf]

I made the following sites for societies, but I only a beginnering who put things that I find useful together. It is not very organise and properly layout. I hope you can help me with the design and tell me how I can improve the site.

The sites are:
http://www.ulubuda.org.uk
http://icbs.tk (not finished, still testing)

Your comments will be very useful for me, thank you very much.

[LJK]

Hi -
Site#1:
Pretty nice-looking but noticed there's no doctype declared. I'm not too big a fan of scrolling text - or frames!
The top left 'home' button is cool...if someone actually notices what it is.
And the 'tell a friend' submit button should be inline or have some padding.

Site#2:
This is much nicer! Less clutter, easier to navigate...my only suggestion is that the top buttons be silver or darker so they can be noticed. (Didn't look at code on this one.) Oh, and no rolling text, please?!?

keep going,
El

[steelersfan88]

Looking over the first one, thebest was said above. CSS cold easily achieve the same look, and I had to look into the code to determine that the layout was done in frames. The layout itself is very well done.

Status bar should read "Done.", not scrolling text, as aforementioned ....

Dr. Script

[laivcf]

Thank you very much for all your reply, they are very usefull. I take out the scrolling text, and will be working on the other suggestions. Can anyone tell me where I can find guides on using css for layout please. Thank you

[sharkey]

Do you have SSI(server side includes) on your server or even PHP so you could get rid of the frames, frames are bad for search engines and seo are your best visitors and they neither have frames or javascript enabled.

www.w3schools.com should teach you css.

[laivcf]

Thanks, I find the http://www.w3schools.com/ very useful. The server does support SSI, I will try and learn that so that I can get rid of the frame.

Thank you

[LJK]

Hi -
I used a pretty basic book for both (x)html and css - "(X)HTML & CSS for the World-Wide Web" by Elizabeth Castro, 5th edition.

Sitepoint forums have excellent CSS resources - and links to all kinds of others...but if you're not sure of the "roots" first, it could be overwhelming.

Do a search online, go to the library, browse in a bookstore & buy if it looks good - you can do it!!!

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/practicalcss/

Here's a good place to start -> you'll come back later on, when you're ready: nice advice...

good luck,
El

[zingmatter]

I found webmonkey (http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/) pretty good when I learned CSS (and other stuff too).