julie2227
07-23-2004, 02:28 AM
I am after a text-only browser to test my site in and Google suggest Lynx. I am nervous to donwload just anything off some of the sites I have found - does anyone know of a 'safe' place to download one? Thanks!
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PeOfEo
07-23-2004, 03:07 AM
http://browsers.evolt.org/?lynx/2.81/32bit <-- this is the version I have. You can get just about any browser at evolt, and no they are not out to give you viruses ;)
julie2227
07-23-2004, 03:49 AM
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Charles
07-23-2004, 07:20 AM
My personal favorite is to use the Lynx Viewer service at http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html.
PeOfEo
07-23-2004, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by Charles
My personal favorite is to use the Lynx Viewer service at http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html. I just like to use the real deal... for some reason that service just does not do it for me.
My personal favorite is to use the Lynx Viewer service at http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html. I just like to use the real deal... for some reason that service just does not do it for me.
Robert Wellock
07-26-2004, 08:48 AM
http://jim.spath.com/lynx_win32/
MstrBob
07-26-2004, 10:54 AM
That's an awesome link, Charles, thanks. I downloaded Lynx, but still haven't figured out how to install it properly - it confuses me. But, after checking out my site and another I made on the lynx viewer, I'm glad I'm using XHTML strict and pure CSS. It came out real nice on the viewer. Besides it being all text, the only other difference was that my links column was now at the bottom. Does lynx not support CSS? I guess it wouldn't, it IS all text. Is that similar to how a screen reader would read a web page?
Edit: Thanks to Robert. The link he gave me to win32 lynx is great! It works now! Thanks!
Edit: Thanks to Robert. The link he gave me to win32 lynx is great! It works now! Thanks!
PeOfEo
07-26-2004, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by MstrBob
That's an awesome link, Charles, thanks. I downloaded Lynx, but still haven't figured out how to install it properly - it confuses me. But, after checking out my site and another I made on the lynx viewer, I'm glad I'm using XHTML strict and pure CSS. It came out real nice on the viewer. Besides it being all text, the only other difference was that my links column was now at the bottom. Does lynx not support CSS? I guess it wouldn't, it IS all text. Is that similar to how a screen reader would read a web page?
Edit: Thanks to Robert. The link he gave me to win32 lynx is great! It works now! Thanks! The link I gave works great for me... just unzip and open lynx.exe. But the lynx viewer is a little inaccurate, it does not show [inline] for stuff like iframes, and other objects.
That's an awesome link, Charles, thanks. I downloaded Lynx, but still haven't figured out how to install it properly - it confuses me. But, after checking out my site and another I made on the lynx viewer, I'm glad I'm using XHTML strict and pure CSS. It came out real nice on the viewer. Besides it being all text, the only other difference was that my links column was now at the bottom. Does lynx not support CSS? I guess it wouldn't, it IS all text. Is that similar to how a screen reader would read a web page?
Edit: Thanks to Robert. The link he gave me to win32 lynx is great! It works now! Thanks! The link I gave works great for me... just unzip and open lynx.exe. But the lynx viewer is a little inaccurate, it does not show [inline] for stuff like iframes, and other objects.
Charles
07-26-2004, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by MstrBob
That's an awesome link, Charles, thanks. I downloaded Lynx, but still haven't figured out how to install it properly - it confuses me. But, after checking out my site and another I made on the lynx viewer, I'm glad I'm using XHTML strict and pure CSS. It came out real nice on the viewer. Besides it being all text, the only other difference was that my links column was now at the bottom. Does lynx not support CSS? I guess it wouldn't, it IS all text. Is that similar to how a screen reader would read a web page?
Edit: Thanks to Robert. The link he gave me to win32 lynx is great! It works now! Thanks! A text-only visual browser, like Lynx, will give a sighted person an idea of how the site will work on an audio or Braille browser. And yes, you want your menu to default along the bottom. Someone using a screen reader cannot so easily jump around the page, and they really don't want to hear, or feel, the same list of links at the top of each page in your site. An acceptable alternative, though less elegant, is to top the page with a "skip to content" link. And if you like, you can use CSS to set that link's display property to "hidden".
There are a few ways that non-visual users sometimes use to get around a page and every web author should be aware of them. One is to "tab through" the headings, but that only works if the web author has marked up the headings with H elements. The other is to call up an independent list of links on the page, but that is only helpful if the web author has given each link a text that is distinct and that makes sense out of context - "Click Here" is problematic.
And I should note that I know Opera has, and I think Firefox has, the ability to display any document in "text-only" mode.
And I should solute you for creating such a fine site and for caring that all will be able to use it.
That's an awesome link, Charles, thanks. I downloaded Lynx, but still haven't figured out how to install it properly - it confuses me. But, after checking out my site and another I made on the lynx viewer, I'm glad I'm using XHTML strict and pure CSS. It came out real nice on the viewer. Besides it being all text, the only other difference was that my links column was now at the bottom. Does lynx not support CSS? I guess it wouldn't, it IS all text. Is that similar to how a screen reader would read a web page?
Edit: Thanks to Robert. The link he gave me to win32 lynx is great! It works now! Thanks! A text-only visual browser, like Lynx, will give a sighted person an idea of how the site will work on an audio or Braille browser. And yes, you want your menu to default along the bottom. Someone using a screen reader cannot so easily jump around the page, and they really don't want to hear, or feel, the same list of links at the top of each page in your site. An acceptable alternative, though less elegant, is to top the page with a "skip to content" link. And if you like, you can use CSS to set that link's display property to "hidden".
There are a few ways that non-visual users sometimes use to get around a page and every web author should be aware of them. One is to "tab through" the headings, but that only works if the web author has marked up the headings with H elements. The other is to call up an independent list of links on the page, but that is only helpful if the web author has given each link a text that is distinct and that makes sense out of context - "Click Here" is problematic.
And I should note that I know Opera has, and I think Firefox has, the ability to display any document in "text-only" mode.
And I should solute you for creating such a fine site and for caring that all will be able to use it.
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