Need Webdev as partner in business

[DreamTitan]

Hello, my name is Jonathan. I have started a venture called TranceCritic and it is now at the stage of a major webdesign and implementation.

The purpose of TranceCritic is to review Trance/Techno music from all over the world -- then provide a link to purchase the CD single, album, or vinyl. I currently have 6 volunteers and now am looking for a webdeveloper who would like partnership to take 10% of profits each month with cash incentive when the website is done.

What i'm proposing is big, ambitous, but doable.

I have found a niche that i'm looking to develop, and I would like to take one of you guys with me. I'm letting you know ahead of time that this is going to be demanding, downright hard at times. However, if successful, most of your financial worries will no longer exist.

Anyone interested please email me at dream_titan@hotmail.com

[Vladdy]

If you are so sure about your venture, why don't you pay me fixed amount for the site development now and keep your later profits to yourself :confused: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[DreamTitan]

Thank you for your reply, and that is a good question.

The main reason for this is that I am not that cash 'rich' at the moment, and the cash I do have I would like to purchase stock in order to turn greater profits.

This is more of a long term deal, which if successful, could lead you set.

Any other questions? comments! or suggestions...

[Vladdy]

LOL, you consider some stock a better investment than your venture.
Then why would any web developer (who is capable of doing simple math) spend time on your project, when he/she can spend this time doing work that pays right away and then investing this cash, which, as you admitted will give better profit than your venture.

Here is an advice: if you want to attract webdevelopers who are worth something, offer cash up-front. Your offer can only be taken up by some beginner who does not have enough skill to stay busy. The resulting sub-par job would only reduce your chances of getting a payoff...

[DreamTitan]

Don't laugh, you misunderstood me. By stock I meant the products im going to be selling, cds vinyl's etc.

And there is going to be some cash offered upon completion of the website.

"cash incentive when the website is done."

[BuezaWebDev]

Originally posted by DreamTitan
Don't laugh, you misunderstood me. By stock I meant the products im going to be selling, cds vinyl's etc.

And there is going to be some cash offered upon completion of the website.

"cash incentive when the website is done."

The point is, you need to offer cash up-front. That's how business is done in our field (professional web development).

[DreamTitan]

Thank you for the tip. I must admit this is not my field and therefore I may not be in tune to the ways things are done in this industry.

What is the going rate for a webdev?

[saran]

DreamTitan,

What kind of skill set your website development will require?

Could you explain what is all about?

Saran

[sharkey]

There is no going rate for web dev the rate will differ as to what is needed what kind of languages to be used, databases etc but you may get someone who is alot cheaper from the other as the cheaper tend to give sub par work which at the end of the day is not what anyone wants.

[DreamTitan]

Saran, I sure can.

My website is going to consist of reviews of newly released dance music. On each article will be a link to purchase the music in the form of CD or vinyl. I would like to archive the articles being able to search for them by artist, track, album, etc. Sound clips will be involved at a later stage as we grow. Also, a community along the lines of forums. I also would like to have each person have their own login with password -- to track purchases etc. Also want to encorporate a radio stream, or several streams.

Something similar to www.gamespot.com but not quite as extensive.

I tried to use specific sentences that would give hints at major work.

Generally I would like to begin at the basic stages, like article archives etc, then move up and add things as time goes by and things begin to pick up.

Any feedback would be much apprciated, thanks.

Be safe.
-Jon M

[DreamTitan]

Sharkey,

Thanks for the heads up, what other information can you provide that may be of some use to me. Anything you'd like to give i'd gladly listen.

[sharkey]

No problem mate, i reckon your job will be quite a large one that will need server side scripting and a database so the users can register etc and buy online.

So this maybe a quite expensive job.

Hope that helps.

[DreamTitan]

Now you see as to why I would need a partner for the venture. Comming up with a few thousand to pay for it upfront would take away any resources from actually purchasing products to sell.

Thank you sharkey. Like said before, anyone interested please email me at dream_titan@hotmail.com

[sharkey]

I dont quite know all what is needed or i would of helped you out becuase i have a fair bit of spare time.


Good luck on your venture

[BuezaWebDev]

Originally posted by DreamTitan
Now you see as to why I would need a partner for the venture. Comming up with a few thousand to pay for it upfront would take away any resources from actually purchasing products to sell.

Thank you sharkey. Like said before, anyone interested please email me at dream_titan@hotmail.com

My suggestion would be to ask someone like your friend to be your partner.

Asking someone upfront if they'd like to dedicate themselves to something or someone is just asking for them to say, "No thanks."

If someone asked me to devote myself to some business that has a 50/50 chance of succeeding, I would still say, "No."

[DreamTitan]

Again, point taken.

I would like a question to ask, if you don't mind.

How much would you personally charge for a website like this?, just so I have some sort of idea of the capital involved.

50/50 i'd take those ods, realistically the numbers are about 1 out of every 3 businesses. Then again this is the internet and the formula could be different.

While although the way I am comming off about the project seems a bit "hopeless" I am considering digging deep to cover the costs of the website.

Thank you for your time and patience.

-Jon M

[Intensity]

I own my personal website design & marketing company. The project would be within my scope and you want, you can review some of my services offered and email me if you are interested. From that point we can attempt to analyze some of the specifics so I can give you quote of how much the set up will cost.


Website design & marketing - Florida based designers (http://www.intensedevelopment.net/)

PS: Thanks for a partnership deal, but I will have to pass on that offer. I charge 25% of the complete project charge up front, 50% midway through, displaying draft of layout, graphics and content, and 25% upon completion of the project.

[BuezaWebDev]

Originally posted by DreamTitan
Again, point taken.

I would like a question to ask, if you don't mind.

How much would you personally charge for a website like this?, just so I have some sort of idea of the capital involved.

50/50 i'd take those ods, realistically the numbers are about 1 out of every 3 businesses. Then again this is the internet and the formula could be different.

While although the way I am comming off about the project seems a bit "hopeless" I am considering digging deep to cover the costs of the website.

Thank you for your time and patience.

-Jon M

To your question, "How much would you personally charge for a website like this?"--A website like WebDeveloper.com? It would cost a lot.

[1] Having the hosting resources with sufficient bandwidth

[2] Marketing it so people do keep coming back to the website

Those are just two points you're going to be focussing on, mainly. The coding isn't hard at all, nor with the design. It's just the hardware and the proper marketing to make it work out the way you want it.

[Intensity]

[1] Having the hosting resources with sufficient bandwidth

[2] Marketing it so people do keep coming back to the website

Those are just two points you're going to be focussing on, mainly.

I agree. Having a website online without the proper Search Engine promotion marketing is liking choosing a store location in BFE. If you want to generate more business, you have to attract your targeted audience.

70% of traffic from search engines are through the organic results (main listings)
30% is from Paid advertising.

Get with it!

[DreamTitan]

Gentlemen, thank you very much for your thoughts.

Intensity: Thank you very much for your offer but unfortunitly i'm looking for someone who will devote time after the website is up. I am looking for a partner. Good luck with anyother projects you have in the future.

BuezaWebDev: Deffinitly true, I don't disagree with you there. Hits wise so far we've done pretty well. Slightly over 100,000 hits sinse the end of june, not bad for not really having much of a website.

As for the search engine implamentation, i've got that covered. Friends at www.newjerseycafes.com will be able to put that together for me in a snap. They also run http://www.nycrestaurant.com/

[Vladdy]

If you want a web developer to devote time to your site after it is up, you negotiate a site maintenance agreement (for routine updates) or pay separate fee (for major changes/additions).
The point we are trying to make here is that established web developers have no interest in partneships. They provide you with service that you are expected to pay for.

Now, if you want to get a quote from someone who knows what they are doing, first thing you need to do is come up with the site design input that outlines the resulting product in as much detail as possible. When you work on that remember that successfull design input describes WHAT you want to get done, leaving out HOW it will get accomplished.