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zemo2003
09-04-2004, 09:42 PM
Hi.
i am the web designer of SouthernStar.org (http://southernstar.org) its still in construction but i want to know if im on the right track.

thanks everyone.

spufi
09-04-2004, 11:48 PM
No Doctype. Table based layout. You have repeated non breaking spaces when you shouldn't really have any, use padding and margins. The background image on the bottom goes halfway. The text for menu on the bottom is hard to read, and as the text becomes larger, maybe because it goes bold, and it shifts any text to the right of the text you are hovering on.

MstrBob
09-05-2004, 12:08 AM
In addittion to what Spufi said, your images are all oddly distorted and un-professional looking, which, considering your nifty Java applet, is rather odd.

zemo2003
09-05-2004, 01:30 PM
ok guys thanks for the info The background image on the bottom goes halfway. that i cant seem to fix it works on all other pages and i cant figure out why.

your images are all oddly distorted and un-professional looking i am sorry about that i am going to replace the with better quality ones

ellicit
09-05-2004, 04:16 PM
IMO, Your doing pretty good for a newbie. In order to attrect more clients you should look into a new more profesional layout. but over all its pretty decent...

btw, if you want to you can pick up a template from my site.

zemo2003
09-05-2004, 05:48 PM
can you give me a free one or do i have to pay for one?

what i mean is do you have any free templates.
In order to attrect more clients you should look into a new more profesional layout
i definetly want more clients.

thanks

MstrBob
09-05-2004, 06:03 PM
In terms of layout, you might be better off with a side column for the links you have on the homepage. Makes navigating the site easier and gives a more proffessional appeal. In terms of templates? Rarely have I found a professional website who bought a generic template. And it doesn't bode well if visitors see your site's design on other sites. A website design should be unique so that visitors know you put time and energy into it and so that they can easily recognize your site.

And in my opinion, you're doing just fine with the design. Most people have issues with the actual design aspect, which you've got. It's a proffessional feel to it. Perhaps a two column layout would be nice and more professional, but you don't need a template. You're real close with the visuals. You're coding could use an improvement, but thats easily remedied.

zemo2003
09-05-2004, 06:16 PM
thanks for the info.

can someone take a look at the source code and see what is wrong with the bottom menu ligning up tto the right ive tried everything.
thanks

Neczy
09-05-2004, 06:33 PM
at bottom of source for the bottom links there is

<TD width="364">

Im not good with tables, hate them really, but i think if you make that:

<TD width="364" align="right">

it will align right.

zemo2003
09-05-2004, 06:38 PM
thanks i'll try that


<:::Edit:::>
well i tried it and it did'nt work

spufi
09-06-2004, 05:49 AM
Some of the images are defined as a certain size via markup and they are actually a different size. Sometimes it's much different. Anyway, the easiest way to change the footer thing for me was to just go through and recode the whole thing and convert it over to a CSS based design. I went and did that. The attached files are as far as I got. In IE, it looks 99.9% done in my book. In Firefox however, things need to be tweaked. I might look at it myself, but you could ask about any needed changes in the CSS forum, and see what feedback you get from there. I'm not 100% set on the unorderlist for the welcome section I did, but I couldn't really settle on one solution versus another at this point. I got you close, it's your job to find out what's need to finish it off. :D

zemo2003
09-06-2004, 02:39 PM
Wow man thanks alot i thoght that all that would take days (if i did it anyway) yea i can fix the small problems no trouble at all.

that helps so much thank you!

spufi
09-06-2004, 11:51 PM
A couple things. One of the best ways to learn CSS is to take a table driven website and convert it over to a tableless one. Since you have plenty of people here posting links to such sites, you won't lack samples. :D It was probably the number one way I learned how to use CSS.

Second, I forgot to add that <img> tags are supposed to have the alt attribute used. This is for when the image isn't displayed. Some images you don't want anything displayed if the image isn't showing up, that's fine. For things like your logo with a company name, well, I think you want something showing up. :D