Crappiness of windows

[neil9999]

When it was error-reporting a program that had been closed because of unresponsiveness, look what happened!

http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=267143

Neil

[Ribeyed]

lol cool!:D

[soccer362001]

ROTFL I can believe it.

[chrismartz]

kinda figures....but hey....we all are mostly still using windows aren't we....of course....i have a linux machine in my room that i could use but am too lazy to start it up!

[steelersfan88]

I don't see the point, other than it seems you really screwed your computer up ...

I have needed an error report for a year with my new computer, and I've only had it for 13 months ...

[PeOfEo]

Your not running an nt os. That is part of the problem.

[Stephen Philbin]

lmao. I've had that happen to me a few times on XP. One time only days after first purchasing it.

I rarely bother with it any more though. Far more hassle than it's worth.

[neil9999]

Originally posted by PeOfEo
Your not running an nt os. That is part of the problem.

Iuse Win XP

[Paul Jr]

lol, that's funny. :D

I want to run Linux... but I'm afraid I'd break something. I need a lab rat!

[Stephen Philbin]

I just went with the very good advice of Ray and used SuSE. I only grabbed it in the first place as just a toy to tinker with. Y'know, seeing as most servers are Linux, I figured I'd "learn some of the lingo" as it were. So I just grabbed myself an extra HDD (so I didn't screw up windows) and slapped SuSE on that. I drove me nuts at first that I couldn't install anything because I had no C compilers libraries or GNU make, but a pointer in the right direction from DaveSW got me up and running in minutes. I found the amazingly good YaST control center, which (amongst many other things) gives you pretty much software on demand. I just told it I wanted compilers libraries and make, then it went and grabbed them all for me, sorted out all the dependencies and compatability issues for me and then install it for me. :D

In fact the only problem with SuSE I've had so far since sorting out YaST was trying to find the solution to a problem with MySQL that never existed in the first place.

Admittedly I no longer have any sound on either Windows or Linux, but I'm pretty certain that more down to me being truly hopeless with computers and breaking the sound bits whilst trying to wrestle the second HDD into place. A mate has make the exact same installation as I have and his sound is still perfectly fine.

Since I found YaST I think I've booted windows twice. Once to use a webcam and once more by accident. I've got used to SuSE now and I have to say I'm very happy with it. I feel under siege when I try to use Windows now. Straight off from boot security patches need updating, programs take ages to start up because there's programs to watch programs, and SP2 STILL nagging to be installed after me telling it to leave me be god knows how many times. I just feel much more relaxed with SuSE now. It's nice n' pretty much idiot-proof (essential for someone as bad with computers as myself) and you know where you are with it. Nothing happens without your say-so. Naturally there's a fair bit of settling in at first. It is a new OS afterall. But like I said, full and free software on demand, combined with the relaxed pace (I think) are great.

[ashish]

figures.. reminds me of the ""keyboard error-keyboard missing...... press F1 to continue :P"

[Stephen Philbin]

lol. I did that to a PC at school once. I thought: "Surely it wouldn't be stupid enough to let me do it?".

It did........

[neil9999]

Has anyone ever got Windows Task manager to not respond (as in saying 'not responding' in the blue bar as it doesn't show itself in the list of programs)?

[PeOfEo]

Originally posted by neil9999
Iuse Win XP Ah, I am so used to looking at the processes with the cpu usage and mem usage tabs that I did not recognize the applications. Well its no big deal if a porgram freezes on xp because that program is not going to bog down the hole system. That porgram can be ended, unlike on windows 98, me, or 95, if a program freezes the whole system freezes.

I dool boot xp and suse. I really do not like suse that much. It is a pain in the ass to use. First of all the suse distro does not come with jack... I had to manually install gaim, wine, and other stuff. Also whenever I want to install something I have to use a prepackaged file, I cant use source code because suse does not come with a compiler. When I install something I have to log out and login as root to do it. Then I have to type a big long command which gets old fast. I like windows because It is not a hassle.

[davidbrent]

I use OS X

[Stephen Philbin]

Yeah SuSE not having jack annoyed me at first like I said. But once I slapped in an ftp source installing wasn't a problem. YaST installed all the compilers libs and make for me. In fact it's even less hassle to install than with windows. You don't even need to rearch the net for programs (which invariably are trail period or spyware in some way). Just type "html editor" in YaST and it gives you a list of html editors. Just click one or all of the ones you want then click OK. It even handles the installation for you.

You don't need to keep signing in and out for root access to install stuff either man. Like I said, YaST handles it for you, if you wanna compile from source with the command line though just open a root console, there's root file managers too. Accessed exactly the same as you would with windows. It's a doddle man. Once you add an ftp source there's not really much ya can't do. at the click of a button.

[davidbrent]

I like the idea of Linux because it is free. Sure it takes ages to download on a standard broadband connection, but it really is worth it for someone who is more into coding and software engineering.

I temporarily used Mandrake and switch to Fedora Core. Red Hat seemed a bit too common back then but it still has its +s.

[Stephen Philbin]

I gave mandrake a swing but it did nothing but crash for me. I guess something in my hardware disagreed with it. Shame really seeing as it was such a nice OS. Tried Slackware too. Had loads of handy stuff right from install. Only trouble was, I installed it as a command line OS like a tit. So here I am back on my now beloved SuSE. :D

from the sounds of it Macs are rather yumalicious too. Although believe it or not, I've never actually used one or seen one in action. :eek:

Plus I'm really not keen on the whole "Upgrade = new machine" idea. Although I hear the sheer power of efficiency of Macs make upgrades needed far less often.

[davidbrent]

i found the switch fun. you had to get out of the whole "used to windows and not expecting much" to being very amazed by the vectors and platforms.

[dera]

Originally posted by ashish
figures.. reminds me of the ""keyboard error-keyboard missing...... press F1 to continue :P" isnt that a bios issue not os

[PeOfEo]

How do you install stuff like gaim and wine on yast? I mean I looked and did not find that stuff. It ticked me off.

[Stephen Philbin]

As far as I know wine is pre installed and ready to go from the start in SuSE. I've never used it myself, but my mate says he finds it handy. I think he said you just browse your windows drive using the "My computer" on yer desktop ( a pic of a monitor with a penguin sat next to it on mine), just browse to the desired program, right click and choose "open with WINE".

Never used gaim either as kopete is available from the start and is like trillian in that it slaps a bunch of messengers under the one.

By far the best thing you can do for your installation of SuSE though is follow these steps:


1. Start YaST (execute /sbin/yast as root if you don't know WhereTF to find it)
2. Pick the 'Software' category on the left
3. 'Change Source of Installation'
4. Click 'Add' > 'FTP...'
5. Set this:
Protocol: FTP
Server Name: ftp.suse.com
Directory on Server: pub/suse/i386/9.1
Authentication>Anonymous: on
6. Click OK, then Finish
Now, you have configured YaST to download from SuSE's own FTP server.
7. Click 'Install and Remove Software'
8. Once YaST reads the package data (local, CD, newly the FTP server), search for "gcc", "g++" and "make" and opt to install these packages by ticking the checkboxes.
9. Accept.


Although don't make the same mistake I did and try to search for make and gcc at the same time. It won't find them both at the same time. Grab yourself some libs too whilst you're at it and there isn't really much you can't do.

EDIT:

This is all from experience on 9.1 by the way.