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7stud
11-05-2004, 01:45 PM
Hi,
I know C++ and a little Visual C++, and I'm interested in learning vb.net. Can I learn vb.net on win98? What do I need:
1).NET framework?
2)vb.NET compiler?
3) Database apps? Can mysql be used?
What does all that cost?
Should I be considering C# instead?
MdWebtress
11-05-2004, 01:50 PM
Not sure if .NET will work with Win98, but as for the cost, try getting it at a computer show. It's MUCH cheaper there. ($117 for the professional/educational version compared to $550+ retail).
schizo
11-05-2004, 02:04 PM
Are you talking about installing Visual Studio.NET on windows 98? I know this is not possible.
7stud
11-05-2004, 02:22 PM
Not sure if .NET will work with Win98, but as for the cost, try getting it at a computer show. It's MUCH cheaper there. ($117 for the professional/educational version compared to $550+ retail).
:eek: How is that possible? :confused: Why wouldn't people by units for $117, and set up an online retail shop that sells them for $250?
Are you talking about installing Visual Studio.NET on windows 98? I know this is not possible.
I don't know. :confused: I thought I read something in the introduction of a C# book that listed win98 as on of the os's under the "what you need" section. I know I wouldn't be getting Visual Studio, but rather vb.net standard edition or something like that.
schizo
11-05-2004, 02:32 PM
vb.net Standard won't run under windows 98 either. The system requirements may be found here (http://www.microsoft.com/PRODUCTS/info/product.aspx?view=22&pcid=3897bf96-7aa3-41e9-88d0-bc3d075ad436&type=req).
7stud
11-05-2004, 02:38 PM
Ok. So it sounds like any .net language won't be possible, and it also sounds very expensive anyway. I guess that leaves me with vb 6.0? Is it possible to get a vb 6.0 compiler anywhere?
CardboardHammer
11-05-2004, 02:45 PM
VB6 is utter crap, compared to VB.NET. First, concern yourself with upgrading your OS. Then, you can get a free command line compiler for .NET from MS: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=9B3A2CA6-3647-4070-9F41-A333C6B9181D&displaylang=en
PeOfEo
11-06-2004, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by CardboardHammer
VB6 is utter crap, compared to VB.NET. First, concern yourself with upgrading your OS. Then, you can get a free command line compiler for .NET from MS: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=9B3A2CA6-3647-4070-9F41-A333C6B9181D&displaylang=en Not to mention that fact that 98 is also utter crap. An nt os should out perform a fat32 os even on an old box (that meets the min requirements to put a nt os on).
schizo
11-07-2004, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by PeOfEo
Not to mention that fact that 98 is also utter crap. An nt os should out perform a fat32 os even on an old box (that meets the min requirements to put a nt os on).
Actually a fat32 drive will likely out preform an identical ntfs drive. Not to mention XP (based of NT) can use both formats.
Long story short...
fat32 = performance
ntfs = security
PeOfEo
11-07-2004, 01:00 PM
a fat system is terrible for performance. Have you noticed that when one program freezes on a fat system the whole system freezes? NT based systems kill fat systems. Especially if it is w2k3 or w2k, the server editions perform very well. I am not talking about the file system in particular, just the os. Like ME is fat, 2000 and XP are NT. Longhorn is going to be NT based last I heard and will not even go near winfs for a while, until like longhorn sp2 or something.