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Lai_ney3
12-15-2004, 09:39 AM
now that i will have a decent computer to do webdev on i have started to think what software i want on it to create websites. i have used frontpage, dreamweaver, and html to make websites so far (just gettin started). what does everyone else use/have on their computer?
NogDog
12-15-2004, 09:50 AM
HTML-Kit (http://www.chami.com/html-kit/)
rhsunderground
12-15-2004, 10:59 AM
well if you've got dreamweaver, i would go ahead and use it. it's too powerful to just sit around, taking up disk space. personally, i use Syn Text Editor (http://syn.sourceforge.net/).
Lai_ney3
12-15-2004, 11:10 AM
i dont have it, but i have used it. the only things i have right now is front page and i use notepad for html
Scottcamp
12-15-2004, 02:39 PM
I used to use htmlgate, I now use dreamweaver mx. Very powerful tool, combine that with flash mx, and adobe photoshop cs.......
pogy366
12-15-2004, 04:43 PM
... i've started out on Notepad and have finally graduated to Dreamweaver MX. But the best freeware that i came across and used for years, was 1st Page 2000 by Evrsoft (http://www.evrsoft.com/). It's got plenty of useful features for all levels of design knowledge.
rhsunderground
12-15-2004, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Lai_ney3
i dont have it, but i have used it. the only things i have right now is front page and i use notepad for html i wouldn't use frontpage. too many bad coding stories i've heard from frontpage.
Stephen Philbin
12-15-2004, 06:17 PM
http://httpd.apache.org/
http://www.zend.com
http://www.mysql.com
http://www.openssl.org
http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/ or http://www.ornj.net/software/araneae/
Those are the basics I would expect for a development environment. Obviously other developers would have other preferences, but the basic premise is the same for the most part.
ray326
12-15-2004, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by pogy366
... i've started out on Notepad and have finally graduated to Dreamweaver MX. But the best freeware that i came across and used for years, was 1st Page 2000 by Evrsoft (http://www.evrsoft.com/). It's got plenty of useful features for all levels of design knowledge. The problem with 1st Page is it's dead. I used it a couple of years and liked it a lot for the real time preview but I now recommend HTML-kit, which is much more powerful and open and is actually being maintained by someone.
porco
12-16-2004, 12:24 AM
vote 2 for HTML Kit (http://www.chami.com)
Norty Pig Web Development
Jupac
12-16-2004, 12:47 AM
best softwear for webdev is....
*drum role*
MSNM or AIM or YIM
Bescause you can ask for help
:o
ill vote for
http://www.ornj.net/software/araneae/
Mr Initial Man
12-20-2004, 07:24 PM
Frontpage
Internet Explorer (4.0)
Windows 95
*Grins, waits to hear the reactions...*
rhsunderground
12-20-2004, 07:28 PM
:eek: please tell me you said that for the reaction.
Stephen Philbin
12-20-2004, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by lakers01
ill vote for
http://www.ornj.net/software/araneae/
Yeah baby! Araneae pwnz teh windows editorzorz!!11!1!!one!
It's what I always stuck with on Windows.
Mr Initial Man
12-20-2004, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by rhsunderground
:eek: please tell me you said that for the reaction.
Hmmm... Should I comfort him, or have some fun? >: )
Stephen Philbin
12-20-2004, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by Mr Initial Man
Hmmm... Should I comfort him, or have some fun? >: )
*cough*................................... ;)
MstrBob
12-20-2004, 07:50 PM
I'm all about the freeware!
-HTML-Kit (Functions as my editor/FTP Client)
-The Gimp (For my graphic editing needs)
-Mozilla Firefox (Simply the best browser for web development. Period.)
-Mozilla Thunderbird (Come on, developers need to check their mail)
-Apache Server (That is, if you work server side, very handy)
-MySQL (Free, reliable, available database)
-FileZilla FTP Server (Access my files from other computers, very convenient)
-Mercury Mail Server (Because every once in a while, I need to test my mail functionality)
-EditPad (I've no idea why, but I love this thing. Not much of an improvment over notepad, except for tabbed file viewing and a list of recent files. But for some reason, it's my editor of choice for config and .ini files)
Set me up with those programs, and I'm ready to role. And as I said before, they're all free!
Mr Initial Man
12-20-2004, 07:53 PM
I confess. I was just trying to get a rise out of you guys. ;)
OKay, for site developement it is:
For HTML:
Notepad
For Graphics:
MSPaint (Main graphics program)
Irfanview
GIFconstructionset (Dunno if that's the actual name)
For Testing:
Opera
Firefox
Internet Explorer (So I can check for buggage)
For Procrastination:
Diablo II
Sega Emulator
Solitaire
Freecell
Spider Solitaire
Furcadia
Various IMs (MSN, YIM, AIM, ICQ)
etc.
MstrBob
12-20-2004, 07:57 PM
Oh yes, Irfanview, great batch converter, good for favicons as well.
GIFConstructionSet. I've got that as well, but seeing as how I'm no animator. Besides, there must be much better tools for anyone with talent.
For Testing, I do have:
Internet Explorer 6, 5, 5.5
Firefox 1.0 Final Release
Opera 7.5
Lynx 2.8.3
Jeeze, us web developers use a lot of apps, don't we?
Mr Initial Man
12-20-2004, 08:05 PM
I never did figure out how to install Lynx
Ben Rogers
12-20-2004, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by Mr Herer
*cough*................................... ;) I second that cough!
My own must haves...
A good server (http://httpd.apache.org/)
Your SSL of choice (http://www.php.net/)
A decent browser (http://www.mozilla.com/products/firefox/)
A decent text editor (http://www.ornj.net/software/araneae/) - I used to be a Notepad man, but Arananeae is just... convenient. I have Dreamweaver MX as well (a family member had it) but could never get into it.
A copy of all the browsers you wish to support (http://browsers.evolt.org/)
The following sites bookmarked: [list=1] CSS hacks (http://www.centricle.com/ref/css/filters/) Good techniques (http://www.alistapart.com/) Techniques on dealing with quirkiness (http://www.positioniseverything.com/)[/list=1] A punching bag (neccessity!!!)
A messenger (http://messenger.yahoo.com/), to *****, moan, and beg to fellow webdevvers.
I think that about covers it. ;)
Stephen Philbin
12-20-2004, 10:46 PM
I have an MSNIM account, but only Poegle is on my list. No other developers of any kind. :( I know loads of people that draw pictures in Dreamweaver and like to call themselves developers, but as you might imagine, they're about as useful as useful as Sir Stephen Hawkings in a stupidity contest. :mad:
MstrBob
12-20-2004, 11:01 PM
Yeah, there's no MSN field in the profiles for us here. And I guess messengers can be useful. It's just too much to remember different screenames, so I use MonComradeBob for AIM, YIM, MSN, GMail, and others. That way I don't tax the brain.
ray326
12-21-2004, 01:04 AM
For IM I use Gaim so I can talk to every IM protocol on the planet simultaneously but I only have AIM and YIM accounts.
baconbutty
12-21-2004, 03:34 AM
I started with TextPad http://www.textpad.com/
I then wrote (using the TEXTAREA/HTML Editor functionality built into web browsers) my own outliner program within a web page.
See http://john.redmood.com/organizers.html for a review of the concept outliners.
I use this to enable me to break down and navigate my work more easily than would be the case in a single file.
My outliner program outputs an XML file, which can be viewed through a web page. See the example projects at my own site, written within my outliner and then simply uploaded to the web site.
Ben Rogers
12-21-2004, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Mr Herer
I have an MSNIM account, but only Poegle is on my list. No other developers of any kind.... Lol! What's your e-mail, I'll add you. :pOriginally posted by ray326
For IM I use Gaim so I can talk to every IM protocol on the planet simultaneously but I only have AIM and YIM accounts. I would, but... I like to sign off of AIM when I'm feeling braindead. I have to put up with those people in real life; can't ignore 'em. As for people I know online... :D
ray326
12-21-2004, 04:54 PM
Oh, you can handle each account separately in Gaim.
Ben Rogers
12-21-2004, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by ray326
Oh, you can handle each account separately in Gaim. Really? If you could play Yahoo games, I'd be hooked. I think I'll give it a look anyhow, but I can't convert... pool and chess are too much fun for that to happen. ;)
ray326
12-21-2004, 11:23 PM
I'm blissfully ignorant of YIM games. ;)
Stephen Philbin
12-22-2004, 12:57 AM
My MSNIM is misterjherer at hotmail dot com. I tried using YIM once upon a time, but I got pisched off with its constant moaning at me for not installing its ad/monitoring software and signing up for endless reams of spam. I also didn't appreciate its intrusive behaviour and the fact it refused to be uninstalled. I use kopete not that I no longer use Windows. Apparently you can have YIM and other accounts on it, but I can't be arsed with 'em. Gaim was supposedly installed on my machine when I installed the OS, but as of yet I have failed to find it. I got used to [Alt+F2] "kop" [enter] to quickly launch kopete now anyway. Only problem I had with kopete was that the file transfers always seemed to fail. I've got my FTP server up not though at least so some people can send files to me now. :D Just got a few kinks to iron out (like the server killing its self whilst I'm not looking) :/ .
jeff_archer7
12-23-2004, 06:19 PM
MUST HAVE SOFTWARE = HALF LIFE 2
hehehehehhehehehehehhe
Jupac
12-23-2004, 06:22 PM
Also
Half-Life 2
NFSU 2
wow so many games with 2
Poegle
12-23-2004, 06:47 PM
Browsers:-
Firefox
Opera
Netscape
I.E
Konqueror (even thought ive messed it up and any link I use opens in text editor kate)
Text editors:-
Bluefish
Araneae
Notepad
Graphic Programs:-The GIMP(even though I can't make sod all on it)
Adobe Photoshop(Same as gimp I can't make anything)
MSN for windows, Kopete for Linux.
If you want someone from here on your list, even though im not that good at web dev add:
Johnny_hogan87@hotmail dot com and yes thats my name, and im used to the
"are you related to Paul Hogan? off crocadile dundee?"...my dads name is Paul..hehe
Oh and not leaving out Xbox Live, with the two best games on live in my view, Splinter Cell:Pandora Tomorrow (With Mr Herer, my schneaking partner) And Halo 2 with everybody on my friends list
:D
LiLcRaZyFuZzY
12-23-2004, 08:13 PM
is konqueror a win app too?
and, could someone link me to older browser version?
IE5 win, IE5.5 win
NN 4 win, NN 6 win
?
thx
rhsunderground
12-23-2004, 08:37 PM
http://browsers.evolt.org/
LiLcRaZyFuZzY
12-23-2004, 08:57 PM
thx dude!
toicontien
12-26-2004, 12:09 PM
For text editing, all you need is HTML Kit (http://www.chami.com/html-kit/). I shy away from Dreamweaver because it tends to convert HTML entities to the actual characters. HTML Kit has easy built-in FTP functionality, lots of possibilities for keyboard short cuts (download the ones I created (http://users.tm.net/gburghardt/home/HK_Customized.zip) to get you started) and has syntax highlighting for most every programming, scripting, and markup language out there.
Lastly, I use HTML Beauty (http://www.htmlbeauty.com/) for it's powerfull search a replace function that can work on entire directory structures in your computer, not just with open files.
For graphics, you can't go wrong with the industry staple: Adobe Photoshop (http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/main.html). And I also will throw in a vote for The Gimp (http://www.gimp.org/), though Photoshop is easier to use. However, The Gimp is free :D Irfanview (http://www.irfanview.com/) is also a must.
For browsers:
Internet Explorer 6
Internet Explorer 5.01 - 5.5 Win (http://www.skyzyx.com/downloads/)
Firefox (http://www.mozilla.org/)
Netscape 7.1 (http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/archive71x.jsp)
Opera 7.5x (http://www.opera.com/download/) (the latest version)
And access to a Macintosh to test things on Safari and IE5-Mac
I also find pkColorPicker (http://www.pkworld.de/software/pkcolorpicker.htm) to be of great use, for both grabbing colors from your screen and also as a zoom tool to look at layout problems close up.
For FTP, you just can't beat Smart FTP (http://www.smartftp.com/). Easy to use and has all the features.
LiLcRaZyFuZzY
12-26-2004, 12:17 PM
pkColorPicker is great, and i also use smartFTP, as they re freewares, u really cant go wrong downloading these.
Poegle
12-26-2004, 12:32 PM
For my FTP I use Ace FTP for windows, and KBear for linux, I much prefer Kbear over Ace FTP.
rhsunderground
12-26-2004, 12:44 PM
one of the nice things about syn text editor is that it has a built-in "save to FTP" option.
PeOfEo
12-26-2004, 01:39 PM
I second nfsu2. I also say everyone needs to have lynx for a text based perspective of their site :) you can get it at http://browsers.evolt.org . I wish I knew of a good open source audio browser though :(
Stephen Philbin
12-27-2004, 11:35 PM
Man, I've been looking for a free audio browser for ages. Both for accessibility testing and also for sheer laziness.
rhsunderground
12-28-2004, 12:32 AM
i ran across something called Talking Browser once. perhaps i can dig that up again...
EDIT:
i (http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2004/12/23/) couldn't (http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=26297) find (http://www.sensus.dk/sib10uk.htm) any (http://browsers.evolt.org/?talking_browser/) thing (http://www.code-it.com/free_sw13.htm) that (http://www.code-it.com/free_sw14.htm) might (http://www.code-it.com/free_sw17.htm) work (http://www.econointl.com/sw/) on google (http://www.google.com/search?q=talking+browser&sourceid=opera&num=100&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)
MstrBob
12-28-2004, 12:36 AM
http://browsers.evolt.org/?talking_browser
? Haven't tried it yet.
Ben Rogers
12-28-2004, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by MstrBob
http://browsers.evolt.org/?talking_browser
? Haven't tried it yet. Neither have I... but before I do, I was wondering if anyone'd do a review?
rhsunderground
12-28-2004, 12:48 AM
WHOA!!!!!!!!! i never heard about this one:
http://news.com.com/2100-1023-221737.html
A markup language for talking browsers?
Published: February 16, 1999, 4:55 PM PST
By Paul Festa
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
IBM is talking up a new markup language for speech-enabled browsers.
When mature, SpeechML will let Web authors write content for speech-enabled browsers using simple markup tags. Conversational access could broaden Web access from automobiles and telephones and facilitate Web access for the visually impaired.
The language, SpeechML, is posted to IBM's alphaWorks site for technologies in progress. IBM is soliciting customer feedback on it.
SpeechML is based on Extensible Markup Language (XML), a metalanguage recommended by the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) for the creation of industry- or task-specific markup languages.
The W3C has had its ear to the ground on the topic of speech-enabled Web applications. The consortium in October convened a voice browser workshop. Participants divided roughly into those who felt voice browsing should have a markup language of the type that IBM has posted, and those who felt HTML and style sheets could do the trick.
In today's announcement of SpeechML, IBM pledged to work with the W3C toward the goal of a universal standard.
SpeechML, like other XML-based markup languages, attempts to make complicated technologies usable by ordinary Web authors through simple and universally recognized tags.
SpeechML can parse data from multiple Web sources so that users can go back and forth between speech-enabled and traditional interfaces.
IBM's alphaWorks posting includes a blueprint of the markup language, a conversational browser, and demonstrations. Under the hood of the language, one finds Sun's Java Speech Markup Language (JSML) and Java Speech Grammar Format (JSGF). IBM's conversational browser is written in Java.
MstrBob
12-28-2004, 12:52 AM
Bah, another markup language for audio browsers. The whole concept is inane if you ask me, but that's a different topic all together.
Ben Rogers
12-28-2004, 12:53 AM
That's incredibly stupid. The reason standards webdevelopment exists is for accessibility- HTML does just fine, and if people code their websites correctly, then readers/viewers/listeners will have no problems accessing them, as long as they speak the language. Why create another language when you could just push an already starting trend, and work with that? No way everyone will double up their content for the hearing impaired, anyhow.
Stephen Philbin
12-28-2004, 01:36 AM
Hmmmmmm. Not sure about this one. If it is just another way of redering content in a audible way, then yes, it is utterly pointless. If however it is what I think it is ( a way to render content in an audible way and enabling the user to interact with and navigate through the documents using their voice, rather than conventional means), then I think it will make an excellent and highly useful addition to the rapidly growing list of XML based ML's. I'll definitely support it if it is what I think it is.
Ben Rogers
12-28-2004, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by Mr Herer
Hmmmmmm. Not sure about this one. If it is just another way of redering content in a audible way, then yes, it is utterly pointless. If however it is what I think it is ( a way to render content in an audible way and enabling the user to interact with and navigate through the documents using their voice, rather than conventional means), then I think it will make an excellent and highly useful addition to the rapidly growing list of XML based ML's. I'll definitely support it if it is what I think it is. Wouldn't that rely more on the browser, rather than the language, and what could they do that couldn't be done in a properly coded HTML document?
PeOfEo
12-28-2004, 01:57 AM
I did try talking browser... it faild. It just did not work. It wouldn't talk to me!
luciangel
12-28-2004, 05:08 AM
Editing:
Notepad
1st Page 2000 (I know they haven't updated it in years, but I'm too lazy to switch to a whole new set of hotkeys.)
Graphix:
Paint Shop Pro 6.2 (Oh, out of date, but so easy to use)
Photoshop (Too complicated for my tastes, but will export transparent gifs a lot easier.)
FTP:
Cute!
Entertainment:
NesterDC
Soulseek
I'm just too lazy to get to the "latest and greatest" (aka want to control every little thing on you and work "sometimes") software.
FrontPage is the devil.
Dreamweaver confuses me.
Never have the time or ambition for anything side server. It's amazing how many people want someone to make a site for them that requires nothing more than 2 pages of html. :)
LiLcRaZyFuZzY
12-28-2004, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by luciangel
It's amazing how many people want someone to make a site for them that requires nothing more than 2 pages of html. :)
well...thats not really always true..and using server side languages will often simplify u the work, and enable u to do great things.
luciangel
12-28-2004, 07:55 AM
"requires"
LiLcRaZyFuZzY
12-28-2004, 08:08 AM
what dyou mean "require"?
luciangel
12-28-2004, 09:00 AM
I meant by using that word there was a sense of need introduced. In other words, the pages do not NEED anything more than HTML. There was no claim as to what was "best," just what was the bare minimum.
baseiber
12-28-2004, 10:02 AM
Textpad
MSOffice
Dreamweaver MX
Flash (I know it comes with Dreamweaver but I don't know if it's the full version or a trial version)
Some type of grafics editor (I currently use Micrografix Suit but they were taken over and are out of business. Still like the software though)
LiLcRaZyFuZzY
12-28-2004, 10:17 AM
well, luciangel, if ur client need some dynamic content, or interaction with the viewer, thats something u cant achieve with html only, and nowadays many client want that.
luciangel
12-28-2004, 04:43 PM
Yes, but my original point (that you claimed was false) was, it's amazing how many people don't want/need/require that. There are a lot of websites that simply serve as an advertisement for people, or their businesses, on the web. My last client, for instance, would have been lost with any kind of "interaction" since he didn't even know how to check his e-mail, but the website did allow those who traveled through his small town to get an idea of what was sold at the various shops he wanted to advertise. It brought in new customers. The task was easily accomplished, without interaction that very well might have been confusing to the potential customers as well (the customer base for said stores were usually middle to older aged adults).
marcaurel
12-29-2004, 04:38 AM
There is only one editor:
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html
The rest depends on what you would like to do, but a good source for a lot of stuff is:
http://www.gnu.org
Free as in Freedom
PeOfEo
12-29-2004, 05:25 AM
There is only one editor:
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html
The rest depends on what you would like to do, but a good source for a lot of stuff is:
http://www.gnu.org
Free as in Freedom
Thank you poland :D
I <3 poland... the motherland. See, us polaks are not so dumb afterall!
LiLcRaZyFuZzY
12-29-2004, 09:21 AM
well, peo u seems to love everyone
Ben Rogers
12-29-2004, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by LiLcRaZyFuZzY
well, peo u seems to love everyone ...
Never, ever, ever say that again, and we'll be all set. Yuck. :p
Faint
12-29-2004, 05:45 PM
This is all I need
HTML:
-Dreamweaver (Might try out some others that you guys have said)
Graphics:
-Adobe Photoshop 7.0
-Flash MX
Music:
-Winamp 5.08 (Got to have music!)
-Acid Pro (Record a little)
Visual Styles:
-Style XP (I can't stand windows default themes. Looks like a Child made it with Crayons.)
-Icon Packager
-Object Dock
Others:
-Call of Duty: United Offense
-Trillian
Ben Rogers
12-29-2004, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Faint
[B]Winamp 5.08 (Got to have music!)/B] http://www.winamp.com/skins/details.php?id=122902 - The mini mode fits above your text editor, so you don't have to switch windows to hit next, turn up teh volume, pause it; whatever.
LiLcRaZyFuZzY
12-30-2004, 05:29 AM
well, with winamp u can set key combination for some actions....look in option, for my self i have ctrl+up/down for next song, and it works without switching window, even if ur using another program(then again, be careful with what combination u choose)