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nkaisare
03-03-2003, 12:05 AM
This is just too frustrating. Looks like Javascript has taken over the webworld. What people could do earlier using <a href="page.html">, everyone wants to use <a href="javascript: MMopen('page')">.

My f*ing online banking: finds I am not using IE 6.0 or NS 6.0, gives me error message: can't use this fing site. I have to use one of these two to access my accounts. Java if ('my f*ing browser is not f*ing IE/NS')!!

Radio buttons... why onfocus them? Goddamnit I pressed one by mistake and it took me to another page, which redirected to third page. I cant use my back button anymore. I have to hold it down and select the second option from top. Guess what, it was a frames page and I go back to the begining of the site. Damn it, GIMME BACK MY PAGE!!

Popups... goddamnit. Can't even listen to my favourite music online. I paid $9.99 for heavens sake. Dont clutter my desktop by opening so many windows.

Sometimes I wish so much that Javascripts would magically disappear. But then, nuclear missiles in wrong hands IS a disaster, ain't it? But that doesn't mean nuclear power cant be used for peaceful purposes, does it?

khalidali63
03-03-2003, 12:11 AM
Just a bit that might help ease the pain..Download NS7 or Mozilla 1.21 you can stop the popup hell..

:D

Hope this helps

Khalid

Vladdy
03-03-2003, 05:34 AM
Guns do not kill people, people with guns do.
Javascript is a very powerfull and helpful thing when used for the right purpose.

Charles
03-03-2003, 06:10 AM
Originally posted by Vladdy
Javascript is a very powerfull and helpful thing when used for the right purpose. And when web authors use it in such a way that their pages work as well with as without it. So that users can disable JavaScript and be happy.

Vladdy
03-03-2003, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by Charles
And when web authors use it in such a way that their pages work as well with as without it. So that users can disable JavaScript and be happy.
If you want to fly you need wings (or a rocket booster :D ) and making everyone happy is an impossible task only those with masochistic tendencies take on. :D

Charles
03-03-2003, 09:34 AM
No, it's quite easy to make a page that works on all browsers, you just need to use HTML 4.01 Strict, XHTML 1.0 Strict or XHTML 1.1 and to follow the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 1.0.

Vladdy
03-03-2003, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by Charles
No, it's quite easy to make a page that works on all browsers, you just need to use HTML 4.01 Strict, XHTML 1.0 Strict or XHTML 1.1 and to follow the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 1.0.
Maybe if I saw the most complicated web page you developed, I could better understand why you so strongly believe in this.

Charles
03-03-2003, 11:19 AM
Definitely, if you would bother to study those documents than you would understand and join me.

Vladdy
03-03-2003, 12:00 PM
I did study those documents and I follow the standards for simple static web pages. However these standards do not address dynamic content other than saying that it is a good idea to provide alternative content for those who are unable to access it. While a noble notion it is not always cost-effective and at times easier accomplished using separate page.

Nedals
03-03-2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by Vladdy
Maybe if I saw the most complicated web page you developed, I could better understand why you so strongly believe in this.
Charles..
I also am attempting to convert to CSS and would love to see a page, with dynamic content, that meets the standards you ahear to and will work in most browsers, including NS4xx and the like. Could you post a link?