IE View Source no longer works?

[jamesx521]

I can no longer view the source of a page. I reset IE settings, but still doesn't do it. When I go to View -- Source nothing happens. I can go and open blank page from the text editor. I can also open other txt files, but the View -- Source isn't working. Any suggestions? Thanks you.

jms

[Jupac]

Swich to a real (http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=23613&t=85) borwnser

[theuedimaster]

I second that.

[jamesx521]

I have Mozila, but just wondering why IE would quit showing Source

[Jupac]

Cuz it sux... i duno i havent used it in months

[PeOfEo]

Originally posted by jamesx521
I have Mozila, but just wondering why IE would quit showing Source It is a very common bug. You can fix it by reinstalling ie. There is another way to fix it... but its just as easy to reinstall ie.

[AdamGundry]

This page (http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/1246/) lists some of the more common reasons, but Peo's right - it's not uncommon and reinstalling IE is often easiest.

Adam

[amazing_andr3]

You've got Firefox? Then why on earth do you still care about IE?

[jamesx521]

I design on IE because the majority of the world uses IE. And I'd rather have a page look better on IE, than Netscape or Mozzila.

[Jupac]

ARGH i should bash you for saying that!!!!!


IE has the worst support erver

[jamesx521]

Reinstalling didn't help it.
Also, creating:
NoViewSource REG_DWORD 0x00000001 (1)
in the registry didn't help either.

I haven't run AdAware yet and I'll do so.

Well, sure to see the source of a web page I should use Mozilla now, but as far as designing for browsers -- people haven't adapted to using Mozilla and that's why I'll design for IE; the majority of internet users not only don't know what Mozilla is but probably don't know what a browser is, neither they'd know that it can be changed to another. And, the Microsoft monopoly sure likes their customers the way they are -- uneducated.

[scragar]

what kind of silly person needs the veiw source comand? I have IE but I never veiw the source of the page using it, if you've got frontpage on XP or NT(and I belive it's also present on 98?) click on the frontpage icon in the standard(yeah right) buttons, if theres a dropdown you could select notepad from that.

[Richard1]

Delete the cookies and all offline content and you should be able to view source again. There is a size limit on that file and when it reaches capacity the view source stops working. Good luck.

Tools -> Options -> Delete Files

[jamesx521]

Yes Deleting the Temp Files and cookies worked. Thanks.

[Richard1]

Great, glad it worked. I don't necessarily think IE is the best browser but from a developer standpoint how could you design for anything else after having looked at the stats:

http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2004/December/browser.php

These are the monthly stats from all the traffic across www.thecounter.com from the month of December. I'm sure if you checked other resources you would find them quite similar.

[PeOfEo]

How could you not design for other platforms then IE? Its very easy to make a page work correctly for all of the browsers. Designing just for ie is neglecting people with other platforms. Its lazyness, and is just plain wrong. If you are running an eccommerce site you will be loosing 11 out of 100 customers... that is plenty of cash.

[Richard1]

I agree all sites should be cross browser. I was making a point, the point being, regardless of what browser you use you should make sure you're familiar with MSIE because a majority of the people are using it. Thanks.

[jamesx521]

How is designing for other browsers easy? Can I put comands that specifically talk to specific browsers. For instance my div layers don't appear the same on the different browsers.

Can I call a specific browser to move a div layer his text should be 500pix from the top on IE and 503pix from the top on Netscape browser?

[jamesx521]

I meant:

Can I tell a browser to have a div layer 500pix from the top on IE and 503pix from the top on Netscape browser?

[Fang]

Yes you can, but if you code correctly it should not be necessary.
<div style="position:absolute;top:100px !important; top:500px;">xxxx</div>

[PeOfEo]

Originally posted by jamesx521
I meant:

Can I tell a browser to have a div layer 500pix from the top on IE and 503pix from the top on Netscape browser? yes. Infact there are many ways to do so. You can do it with a hack ( http://centricle.com/ref/css/filters/ is a chart of hacks) or you can use a server side language to identify the user agent and send the ghecko users alternate code. A lot of things do not even need hacking though. I do not need to hack or use the user agent method very often. IE and ghecko have different box models but if you use a strict doc type you will find ie's more compliant box model and not run into many problems.

Fangs example is sort of a hack. !important is legit css, but Ie does not support it, so you are infact sending different info to the two browsers. My favorite ie hack is this: http://centricle.com/ref/css/filters/tests/owen/ owen's hack.

[russell]

you should absolutely design for IE. Not doing so is silly. It's true that good design will be good for all UAs, but tweak for IE, not firefox or NS. that's just plain common sense. if it doesn't look or work well in IE, it's unacceptable.

that said, i've seen some pretty awful sites from a usability/accessibility standpoint that look and work fine (other than poor implementation etc.) in FF as well as IE.

As for the question "why would you want to view source?", if you write dynamic pages (say with ASP, JSP and such) you will find you need to view source quite a bit, to be sure you are passing the values you think you are.

[PeOfEo]

well you need view source to make sure the correct stuff is in your markup, to see the server output. But that does not mean I need ie viewsource instead of moz viewsource.

[russell]

But that does not mean I need ie viewsource instead of moz viewsource.true. true.

but i was referring to scragar saying "what kind of silly person needs the veiw source comand? I have IE but I never veiw the source of the page using it..."

i was just trying to point out that a lot of people never write html directly. they write programs that generate html (using .net php asp etc.) so the view source is the fastest way to make sure u did what u meant to do...

[JPnyc]

But even with dynamically generated pages, I always design and write the page 1st in static html, then chop it up into output statements in the serverside.

[PeOfEo]

Originally posted by JPnyc
But even with dynamically generated pages, I always design and write the page 1st in static html, then chop it up into output statements in the serverside. I do this similarly. But sometimes I will put code into a loop or something, like say I were to make a news column / blog / forum, there would be code looping out.

[russell]

i almost never do that. either way though, you still need to view source sometimes to make sure you're doing what you expected. take for example, hidden inputs, or dynamically named form elements.