Mobile phone games

[neil9999]

Hi,

Is it possible to make simple java games for my Sony Ericsson K500i and download them to it via infra-red?

Thanks,

Neil

[Khalid Ali]

yes you can write games for mobile devices for sure. Am not sure about infra red transfer but you can use OTA(Over The Air) transfer or blutooth transfter as well as a serial cable.
Cony uses allots of proprietery java classes for their hand held devices go to the this url for further details (http://developer.sonyericsson.com/site/global/techsupport/tipstrickscode/java/p_j2me_215.jsp)

[neil9999]

Thanks, but I've never programmed in java before and I don't know what you need. I've downloaded semc_j2me_sdk_2_1_5 from the link you gave me but it says I need the Java Development Kit Version 1.4.1 or higher. What exactly do I need to download? Could you provide links please?

Thanks,

Neil

[Khalid Ali]

if you have nto programed in java before at all, then it may not be an easy task to write games.
You first need to learn Java programming language which iteslf is a serious task(may spend months on it)
Once you learn that then you can write games etc.
to download jdk 1.4.x go to
java.sun.com and look towards the right hand corner you will see a list of downloads, select the one that says something like
sdk or jsdk avoid downloading
j2ee and /or j2mee

[neil9999]

Giddy gosh there's too many! Is J2SE alright? Please could you provide me with an exaxct link 2 the one I need? I'm using Windows XP.

Neil

[neil9999]

Originally posted by Khalid Ali
if you have nto programed in java before at all, then it may not be an easy task to write games.
You first need to learn Java programming language which iteslf is a serious task(may spend months on it)
Once you learn that then you can write games etc.

I'm only looking to make simple games, not 3D ones or anything!!!!

[Khalid Ali]

the following link will take you to the required sdk agreement acceptance page..
doanload page link (https://jsecom16b.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=D426D1ACB92813A0AEEB69E6B2AAA667)

Once you know Java then writing a simple game is not more complex then writing a 3d game.
You will have to learn Java programming first.

[Paddy Notemaker]

If you are interested in writing games for mobile phones, you might want to check out the Nokia site, as there is a tutorial on that site. Some of the API packages available on mobile phones vary from those available on PC and the tutorial goes through this briefly. I started out in java to write games for phones too. The others are right-you really need to learn java basics first. I can recommend the mandomartis course on java animations and games by Anibal Wainstein (just do a google search for Anibal Wainstein, java and games). Most courses will take you through applets, then once you get that, you can learn about java applications, and then modify the applications for mobile phones. Hope this helps, Paddy Notemaker.

[neil9999]

Is this (http://www.mandomartis.com/onlinecourses/basicgamedev/introduction/introduction.html) the Anibal Weinstein course you meant?

I cant seem to find the nokia tutorial; please could you provide a link?

Thanks,

Neil

[Khalid Ali]

Originally posted by Paddy Notemaker
... The others are right...
I find this statement a rude one.
Anyways...whoever suggested to you to go through those tutorials is out of their mind, you must learn the core programming language first and then go through any particular tutorial for a particular sub technology in a programming language, its just a joke to expect some one to program for windows or com programming before they learn C/C++.
So learn Java first, game programming is part of J2ME which is just java for small devices.

[Paddy Notemaker]

Khalid,

I noticed that you mentioned several ways to get mobile phone applications onto the phones themselves from computers. Could you please go into more detail with regard to this because I am in the process of making some games myself. By the way-you were right about learning the basics and going from there. I started learning about the java swing packages yesterday and the official documentation is completely impractical and very hard to follow. I think I'll skip that and try for mobile apps straight off.

[Khalid Ali]

Originally posted by Paddy Notemaker
Khalid,
I noticed that you mentioned several ways to get mobile phone applications onto the phones themselves from computers. Could you please go into more detail with regard......

Well there are at least 3 main options available for you to transfer games on your cell phones.

1. OTA (Over The Air) - Using your cell phones
web browser.

2. Using a serial or usb cable a direct transfer. This may or may not
be a tricky process,since in some phones the venders on purpose
disable the menu option that allows you to download and install a
game.

3. Most recent one and probably becoming a more popular one as well is
using Bluetooth wireless connection to upload a game or some other
media onto a phone.

Let me know if you want more info then this on any particular method.

[Paddy Notemaker]

Dear Khalid,

Thanks for the information regarding that. Could you please tell me about the way you think is best using the minimum amount of equipment, as equipment and software are a serious problem for me. On the same note, I am working on a 5 year old computer with win 98 SE. Using the microedition code is not so much of a problem for me, but finding a SDK that works on win 98 SE is. Are there any mobile phone SDK's that will work on win 98 SE, while still not being too far behind in terms of technology? Thanks for your time.

[Khalid Ali]

Over The Air will require the least equipment(will reuire ur mobile phone equiped with a web browser)
I don't see any problem in finding java SDK that will work with win 98

just go to java.sun.com and look for it

[Paddy Notemaker]

Khalid,

Sorry, I should have been more specific. Nokia and other mobile phone companies offer SDK's for development on the platforms that their phones use. Most phones support java in some form or another and I have been trying to find a nokia SDK that will work on win 98 se, but most of the SDK's are geared toward win XP users, which is an endless source of frustration for me.Thanks for your time. I will try to look into SDK's on other phones, earlier phones, etc, as I have not really devoted much time to looking for this kind of equipment.