Problem with Frames [Archive]

web2

02-26-2005, 02:11 PM

Can anyone tell me why part 2 and part 3 of my tutorial on frames is not showing up in the Firefox browser? Here's the url - http://www.accessv.com/~email/webpages/frames.html Thanks

PeOfEo

02-26-2005, 02:20 PM

Maybe firefox is trying to tell you something :p

I do not know why they are now showing up but I do not suggest a frames based layout.

spufi

02-26-2005, 02:43 PM

Maybe introducing your markup to the 21st century might help. ;) In other words, you code doesn't validate, you use such things as font tags and table based layout. If you are going to teach people how to make web pages, make sure your pages are done correctly first.

ray326

02-26-2005, 03:19 PM

In my best Simon Cowell voice -- Regardless of the presentation of that site, the content is garbage. Do us all a favor and take it offline until you can bring it up to date from the mid-90's concepts you're presenting.

the tree

02-26-2005, 04:26 PM

Let me have some fun...Scroll down the page, see what happened? The top part of the page remained stationary while the rest of the page moved. That's what's called frames. Actualy that's fixed positioning and overflow which frames just happen to follow by default.You may be thinking "I have no use for tables in my web pages". But hold on, tables can be used as page layouts to help better control the placement of things on your web page, so it's worth getting to know how to make one Although you're right in saying that tables are useful to know about, the w3c specificaly warn agaisnt using tables for layout. You also neglected to mention the summary attribute and caption element.This (<p>) is a single tag requiring no end tag, although at times it can be used as a beginning tag and an end tag but never mind about that now. I may not have memorised the specs, but <p> is most definately not an empty element.You probably noticed that the text on your web page is pretty small. We are about to change that with a new tag: <FONT> </FONT> Font is hardly new, in fact it's been depreciated since '98.Note: It doesn't matter whether your tags are in upper or lower case letters.The upper case letters and bold style in this tutorial are used for emphasis. The specifications for every version of HTML and xHTML state that tags must be in lower case.The heading tag comes with numbers, <H1> to <H6>. The numbers beside the H tell the browser how large the letters are to be, with 1 being the largest and 6 the smallest. Wrong again, the numbers tell the browser what level of heading it is, the browser choses to display it as large as it likes, often with top level headings being larger unless a style sheet linked to the page says otherwise.Html Made Easy is now a book! Why? There's two ways to upload webpages, one is by browser (like Netscape or Internet Explorer), and the other is by a program called ftp, FTP is not a program, it's a protocal, just like HTTP, there are hundreds of FTP clients.<HEAD> </HEAD> Encloses TITLE and META tags So where would you put link, style and script elements?

I couldn't find a quote to go with this but what on earth happend to Doctypes? and CSS for that matter? does javascript exist in your world?
Hows about ensuring accesabilty and cross browser compatability?
Some mention on web safe colours? Generic fonts?
Is that above the capability of your audience? Or just you?