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amazing_andr3
03-12-2005, 11:18 AM
The quiz consists of 33 questions focusing on CSS, design matters and web standards.

At the end you will see your score, the correct answers and an explanation for the answers.

http://www.siteuri.ro/developer/quiz.php

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Then come back here and let me know what you think. Was it too easy or too hard? Did I ask the right questions?
the tree
03-12-2005, 11:36 AM
A lot of your awnsers I basicaly think are wrong, sorry about that.

Example: You said that quirks mode is how a browser deals with a page without a doctype but that implies that the following page will be rendered in compliance mode.<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<foo>
<<urm>
</yeh>
well
& you get
<the idea/> Example #2: You said that forms shouldn't be arrangend in tables, you might want to read this (http://www.cmmwebdesign.com/blog/chronicles/2004/12/12/displaying-your-forms/).
amazing_andr3
03-12-2005, 11:43 AM
Good point about the quirks mode. I was trying to keep the answers short, maybe I've gone a bit too far with this question. I will fix it.

The forms and tables thing is a bit controversial. Well, the questions are not in their final form, I might decide to leave out controversial stuff in the end.

Thanks.
the tree
03-12-2005, 11:45 AM
Yeh, also 100 questions is rather a lot.
amazing_andr3
03-12-2005, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by the tree
Yeh, also 100 questions is rather a lot.

You mean 33 questions is a lot?
the tree
03-12-2005, 12:02 PM
Yes, yes I do.:o
MstrBob
03-12-2005, 12:59 PM
Tree, perhaps you should read the comments for that journal entry, eh? I still maintain, as I did there, that tables aren't really appropriate for forms.
MstrBob
03-12-2005, 01:14 PM
Erm, your Mosaic question is wrong. Mosaic was produced by the NCSA. Spyglass bought the licensing for it, but never used any of the code. Microsoft then bought that version of Mosaic for IE, but it never shared code with the original Mosaic. Thus, the original Mosaic is a separate beast.

Sorry, that was bothering me.
the tree
03-12-2005, 01:14 PM
Obviously it's disputable, but I don't think that it's fair to say that tables are never apropriate for forms.

Example: using phpmyadmin you can type in rows strait to your database table, that relies on using forms and if that isn't tabular infomation then I don't know what is.
MstrBob
03-12-2005, 01:22 PM
Alright, fine, find one of the few exceptions. Bah! But that wasn't what Jona was using as reasoning. He was implying that all forms could be considered tabular. That's not true, there are some cases where tables are appropriate. Most of the time, however, they aren't.
the tree
03-12-2005, 01:27 PM
Of course not all forms are tabular. A better example might be when you fill out your user profile, couldn't that be described as a table?
MstrBob
03-12-2005, 01:31 PM
Meh. I don't really see it. You've got the form information to fill out. The accompanying text is just to aid the user in filling out proper information. I think proper use of FIELDSET and LABEL would be better for that then a table. Think about it, the form field is the most important thing, with the text being used as a description. But one thing can be represented many different ways, I guess.
amazing_andr3
03-12-2005, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by MstrBob
Erm, your Mosaic question is wrong. Mosaic was produced by the NCSA. Spyglass bought the licensing for it, but never used any of the code. Microsoft then bought that version of Mosaic for IE, but it never shared code with the original Mosaic. Thus, the original Mosaic is a separate beast.

Sorry, that was bothering me.

Thanks for pointing that out. I'll change that question to:

What's the name of the first browser? the correct answer being WorldWideWeb

It was too easy anyway, anyone can see the name "Mosaic" in IE - About Internet Explorer.

But still, this doesn't explain why none scored more than 80 out of 100...
amazing_andr3
03-12-2005, 04:11 PM
What if I change my original question:
"Use a table to position form elements."

To: "Use a table to position the elements of a complex form."
Good idea
Bad idea

Isn't this more clearly a bad idea?

As for the debate, I'd like to add that pure CSS forms are better because you can use one CSS for any number of forms. Whereas if you use tables, you'll need one table for each form.
the tree
03-12-2005, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by amazing_andr3
As for the debate, I'd like to add that pure CSS forms are better because you can use one CSS for any number of forms. Whereas if you use tables, you'll need one table for each form. If its a different form, then odds are it'll contain different elements and want to be layed out differently. So although you would use mostly the same CSS for a search box and a page getting infomation about a user, the markup would be completely different.
MstrBob
03-12-2005, 10:43 PM
Why not use a more generic question, like "Using tables to visually lay out a website." Good Idea or Bad Idea. In which it's obviously a bad idea.

You know, I feel rather silly. I didn't realize that XForms 1.0 had been standardized. Oh, shows how much I know! Thought it was still a working draft, like XFrames. Also was unaware that they had indeed removed the IMG element from XHTML 2. But, considering it's still a working draft, how important is that to know? That document is subject to change, I really wouldn't be testing somebody's knowledge of non-finalized standards.
amazing_andr3
03-14-2005, 12:30 PM
:) what would be the benefit of taking a quiz if you got all the questions right?