Please review, feedback welcome.

[ph30nix]

http://www.canberramarine.com.au

I did this (im 13) with out help, just lots of feedback.

thanks in advance.

[Mr Initial Man]

It looks nice. Simple, easy to read, and not at all cluttered. A guy once told me of websites "if I need to click more than three times to get to the product, it's too many times." I had to click only twice to look at a boat, so you're laughing there. Your site's very neat and clear to me.

HOWEVER, we have issues.

First off, you're using frames, which most people on this forum will tell you is a no-no. Personally, I think you did well with the frames, but they're not really accessible, and search engines tend to whine and complain about them.

Yes, they're good for various aspects of layout, but the problems outweigh the benefits.

Second, I noticed you're also using tables to do the layout, but you have a link to a CSS file. CSS isn't just for font styles, it should control everything on the page, including layout. Tables take up WAY too much space when it comes to file size.

Third: JAVASCRIPT. I think you have more javascript than HTML there. The others on these forums might know of ways to do the mouseovers without using Javascript, or can suggest another alternative.

Fourth: You are using images for headings. That's pretty iffy at the best of times, and since it's an image of what looks like bold Arial letters, that's unnecessary.

It's a good-looking site as it is. It needs a bit of help, though, when it comes to the HTML that makes it. :)

[ph30nix]

thanks,

I have been updating the site this weekend, that included changing all the picture titles to font, before the update, most of the site was pictures instead of font as titles.

A webdesigner has given me 3 pages of feedback, outlining most of what you said, including about frames.

He didnt mention anything about to much javascript, what page would you be talking about.

BTW, what do you mean about tables taking up to much space, how can i use CSS to control the layout?

All in all, thanks for the feedback :D ,

Ph30nIX

[Mr Initial Man]

Originally posted by ph30nix
thanks,

I have been updating the site this weekend, that included changing all the picture titles to font, before the update, most of the site was pictures instead of font as titles.

Good to hear. :)

Originally posted by ph30nix
A webdesigner has given me 3 pages of feedback, outlining most of what you said, including about frames.

Glad to hear you're looking for many opinions. This is good. :)

Originally posted by ph30nix
He didnt mention anything about to much javascript, what page would you be talking about.

http://www.canberramarine.com.au/polycraftBoats_files/tufftender.htm This page has a PILE of Javascript.

Originally posted by ph30nix
BTW, what do you mean about tables taking up to much space

In terms of how many kilobytes your HTML document takes up. It's what we call "Code Bloat," meaning that the method you use requires too much HTML elements.

Originally posted by ph30nix
how can i use CSS to control the layout?

Oh, where do I begin? The simplest element to use is <div>, which is basically an element with no preset attributes, sizes, or margins. It's semantically empty (meaning it has no special meaning), and is very easy to use for layout.

To this, you can use the following CSS attributes: width, height, margin, and padding. There are others who can explain better than I can how to do CSS layouts. That's basically what the CSS forum is for.



Originally posted by ph30nix
All in all, thanks for the feedback :D ,

Ph30nIX

Glad to be of service, Ph30nix.

[ph30nix]

ahh yes,
all the boat pages use JS to swap the images, if you have a better method i'd love to try it.

thanks,
Ph30nIX

[Mr Initial Man]

It's not entirely wrong to use Javascript, but your page MUST work without it somehow. Many people have their javascript disabled, which could cause problems in your site.

[ph30nix]

I see,

one problem is that the "options and accessories" page completly relies on JS to resize the pop-up windows, i was unable to find any other way to do this.

[Mr Initial Man]

I do not know if popups are a good idea anyways, to be honest. You may ask others about it, I am certainly no expert.

You might want to think about displaying them in other ways.

[ph30nix]

I dont know if i made the bit about pop-up resizing clear, when the link is clicked it pops up a window that displays a picture, the window is resized according to the size of the picture, instead of opening a window to small, or fully maximized for only a small picture.


Ph30nIX