Please review my site - Let me know what you think.

[p1hop]

I am fairly new at web building and the techniques are what I learned myself. I'm coming up on my 1st year's anniversary of building WebPages with HTML and I have one (non-profit) site live that is 14 pages long. I have started using CSS coding for about a month and so you will not see much of that on this live site but I do have a another site in the wings which is CSS writing.

:rolleyes: I think I ready for a review and I know that you top notch guys will be honest...

Thank you...Patty (webmistress)
http://www.mnoes.org/oeslh202/

*Please beaware :eek: that mnoes.org are not my pages, I am piggyback off that site.

[p1hop]

Well I have learn something new...You may validate one but not the next :eek: I ran the site through validation and it failed big time and the odd thing is that when the site was validated it passed on that line of coding. OK it time to go and fix the problem... and I promise to be more vigilant...
P1hop

[rpcarnell]

Okay, the website has too many colors, and the organization is terrible. Stuff here and there. Not amateurish though. I can tell you worked hard on it.

[Sanim]

Scary. Plus, mnoes.org isn't really designed that well. (I know it's not your site.. :P)

[rDubya]

my main issue with the site is the lack of continuity. there's links all over the place, some open in the same window, some open new windows . . . what appears to be the main navigation, while present accross the site, its intially graphics/buttons on the right, then just text links on the left. the site could also use some nicer text formatting, and with a site with a lot of text content, i like to use auto-stretch, so those with higher resolutions can see more of the site - though that is only a personal preference.

if you're learning css, maybe putting in some borders and formatting the text a bit - different styles for main buttons (the text links would look better than those buttons on the right i think, just nicer font), and main body text and headings.

btw, i'm using firefox 1.0 on windows xp

[LJK]

Hi-
Unfortunately, I must agree with previous comments made...
in a nutshell, it's very 'oldschool' circa 1991 or so.

Please, since you're doing a great thing in trying to move away from table-based layouts and getting more comfortable with CSS, take a look at top CSS folks' websites. [Molly Holzschlag, Eric Meyer, Jeffery Zeldman, and CSS Zen Garden...] This will help open you up a bit more to what is possible - maybe not now but in another year or so!

For now, work on continuity. There should be a decided 'look' to a site, with minor changes/areas of interest or contrast. Right now, it's a hodgepodge. Clip art is a waste of space IMHO and the Mason's logo is on there so many times, I think I lost count at 10. How about just ONE at the top header of each page, situated with a title and the main links below or something? Since the colors of it are rather loud and unrelated, maybe they'd let you try a one or two color version just for a site logo - that way you'd be freer to select a color scheme for the overall style.

Keep on doing it & good luck,
El

[dera]

i suggest if you have access to php and a mysql database or similar that you should install a content managment system if you dont know what that is reply back asking and ill explain

[p1hop]

I want to thank all of you so much for all your ideas and advice. It’s so wonderful that you have taken your time to look at the site and report back.

Now, that I have taken a second look, at the site, through your eyes I have to agree that there is a continuity problem with linkage. Unfortunately, I am not the producer of the page and don't have a lot of control over the layout.

However, I am interested in using different text then allowing the browser to choose the font. Could anyone recommend a nice, readable font-family?

I am also interested in learning about how to use auto-stretch because it annoys me that I have to view a compacted site so that older machines can view the site without scrolling.

I will also take a look at the various websites that was recommended. I do have a book by Molly Holzschlag called "250 HTML AND WEB DESIGN SECRETS" (Which as proven helpful :).

As for the offer to learn more about Content Management System, I don't have access to PHP and MySQL because we are getting free space with no extras. However, I admit I not familiar with the technical side of the server (hence I not even sure what PHP and MySQL is) but I am interested in a brief explanation.

Thanks again for recognizing my hard work; it has been a year of a lot of growth.
P1hop

P.S. I will be going live with another smaller site soon which I have more control over. I hope that you will be interested in checking out that site too.

[wvmlt]

I like it. I would just change the button links on the home page to look like the text links on the other pages. As far as auto stretching, all you need to do is change <table width="650"...

to something like

<table width="90%"...

[p1hop]

Thank you...Auto Stretching will prove to be a valuable tool for the OES site.
I have used the auto stretch width concept on my JD pages and it makes a big difference in making sure each page is identical in width. I am adding JD pages for inspection. Thanks everyone who works this forum is proving to be invaluable.