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96turnerri
04-16-2005, 04:05 PM
whos what, if you dont know which is which you probably are neither

Linux Apache MySQL PHP
Windows IIS MSSQL ASP

what do you thinks better and why? if you use something completly different, im sorry, please PM me and moan

webgovernor
04-16-2005, 04:53 PM
to publically state my opinion, I'll say that
Linux is Linux, and Windows IS Windows, which is
bad for Windows...

Apache is a Great server system, MySql And PHP are more supported and have
more info and updates, and Linux is the worlds best OS (not to start a flame war).
(New PHP libs and versions way before new ASP ones [as far as I know]).

Secure, free, open, constantly updated: LAMP

Buggy, proprietary, usually insecure: Anything MS, AKA: WIMA

THat's my opinion.

NOTE: ASP is supposedly easy to use (so is PHP) and I'm sure the MS version
is easier to setup. I think people should try both.

Oh, why are you curious? Thinking about switching?

PeOfEo
04-16-2005, 05:52 PM
I use asp.net on iis w/ mssql for my data.

Contrary to popular belief: Windows servers have very good performance and are very stable. As for security, there plenty who hold windows in higher reguard security wise and there have been studies to back this up. If a windows box is unstable and insecure that means the person who setup the server does not know what he or she is doing... its pebkac. The only thing linux has on windows is the fact that it is open source.

asp.net:
* has unmatched language flexibility, can be done in just about any language you want to use
* is compiled at runtime and runs much like jsp, it will beat everything else performance wise
* asp.net is fully object oriented
* has quasi event oriented controls for the coder's conveiniance

what I am running right now:
Windows 2000 advanced server sp4 w/ iis 5.0 w/ mssql server 2000 for my data.

ray326
04-16-2005, 10:47 PM
Don't forget WIMP: Windows, IIS, MySQL, PHP
Or even WAMP: Windows, Apache, MySQL, PHP

Hmm. Sounds like we're conjegating verbs; wimp, wamp, wump but I don't know of a web server beginning with 'u'. :D

MstrBob
04-16-2005, 11:00 PM
Don't forget WIMP: Windows, IIS, MySQL, PHP
Or even WAMP: Windows, Apache, MySQL, PHP

Hmm. Sounds like we're conjegating verbs; wimp, wamp, wump but I don't know of a web server beginning with 'u'. :D

Haven't used Linux, so I can't really compare it properly to windows.

Apache is my favourite web server that I've used thus far. Much better than IIS.

MySQL blows MSSQL out of the water, hands down, it r0x0rz ur s0x0rz.

PHP is much, much better than ASP. But MS isn't focusing on ASP, it's more about .NET now. PHP 5 has new OOP enhancements, new MySQL API, better XML support and other such stuffs. Haven't played around with it much.

So I use WAMP at home and LAMP for live projects usually.

And I would sooner do all my server side work in C++ than use .Net

PeOfEo
04-17-2005, 12:37 AM
MySQL blows MSSQL out of the water, hands down, it r0x0rz ur s0x0rz.

I do not see how that is possible when mssql has stored procedures and outperforms mysql.

webgovernor
04-17-2005, 05:42 AM
And I would sooner do all my server side work in C++ than use .Net

I hear ya there, C++ coding for server-side is involving, but a whole lot better.

PeOfEo
04-17-2005, 08:55 AM
The problem is what are you going to use the c++ to do? Cgi? You can use c++.net which is the newest form of c++ to do asp.net.

MstrBob
04-17-2005, 01:58 PM
The problem is what are you going to use the c++ to do? Cgi? You can use c++.net which is the newest form of c++ to do asp.net.

I dunno, upon reading up on it, I'm not all that fond of .Net PHP is not the be-all and end-all of web technologies, I know that. But I'm still unsure of all this .net funny buisness. I'd rather use C++ to create an application that would be completely compiled than use the .Net, which as I understand is not completely compiled and has the MS flavoring to it.

MySQL is, in my opinion, superior to MSSQL. It runs on numerous operating systems, and I've yet to see any proof that MSSQL outperforms MySQL. Things like stored procedure I believe are available in MySQL 5.