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Getch
03-25-2003, 11:30 AM
How can I hide the HTML & JS code so visitors cannot see it.
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ozz
03-25-2003, 11:32 AM
you can't really but try a little program called webcrypt4 which will render the coding unreadable.
Vladdy
03-25-2003, 11:43 AM
Is your coding that bad :D :D :D
khaki
03-25-2003, 01:42 PM
Hi Getch...

Good coding or bad coding (yikes, Vladdy!)... your code can't really ever truly be hidden (not yet anyway) - and especially client-side code.

There have been many raging discussions on this topic here in this forum. And I'm afraid that every one of them have served to do little more than produce insults among the participants.

Hopefully you haven't lit another match under some of the more volatile types that's cruise through here (lol).

And hey... even ugly code is beautiful to the person who wrote it...
k
AdamGundry
03-25-2003, 03:35 PM
You can't hide it, but you can make it difficult to use. Try this source code "encrypter":

http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex9/encrypter.htm

Adam
khaki
03-25-2003, 03:53 PM
.... and here we go again

(sometimes I feel just like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day. :rolleyes: )
AdamBrill
03-25-2003, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by khaki
Good coding or bad coding (yikes, Vladdy!)... your code can't really ever truly be hidden (not yet anyway) - and especially client-side code.What do you mean "not yet anyway"? Do you think it is going to be possible in the future? The internet is public. If people don't want their source seen, then don't put it in a public place...
nkaisare
03-25-2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by AdamBrill
Do you think it is going to be possible in the future?
Dunno about u, but me aint seen the future. Not yet anyway ;)
AdamBrill
03-25-2003, 04:12 PM
nkaisare - Actually, I was kidding. I think that I am pretty safe to say that it won't be possible for a long, long time(if ever). I personally am hoping that they don't ever add that into the browser... It would be just one more thing to annoy me while I am online. ;)
khaki
03-25-2003, 04:26 PM
Thanks for jumping to my defense Niket.

Didn't sound like you were kidding originally though, Adam.
You quoted me.
Didn't see any:
:)
or
:D
or
;)
or even
:p
Tough to tell it's kidding without some kind of indication, y'know.

There are enough people who cruise around here who take any opportunity to bust my chops.
I honestly thought that you decided to join them.
Hope not.

ability to actually see into the future... but unwilling to talk about it...
k
pyro
03-25-2003, 04:41 PM
Most source code encrypters (all that I've seen) can be decrypted with a simple unencode command...
AdamBrill
03-25-2003, 04:56 PM
Your mad at me again... :( I thought you would know I was kidding... Sorry... And no, I didn't join the "pick on Khaki" group. ;)
nkaisare
03-25-2003, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by AdamBrill
I didn't join the "pick on Khaki" group. ;)
How can I join that group? I want to. I want to. :p :p

I dont see source protection in the near future. Encrypt-decrypt is not foolproof because if your browser can decrypt and read, why cant you? It seems to be more of a browser-side thing... and we will always have resourceful people giving us good browsers sans the code protection.

BTW, over last year, I have changed my views. I think reading source code is the worst way of learning HTML. At least not for doing anything more than posting pictures on the web.
AdamBrill
03-25-2003, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by nkaisare
How can I join that group? I want to. I want to. :p :pYou don't know what you are getting yourself into. :D But, if you're sure you want to join, go to http://www.pickOnKhaki.com and sign up. ;) j/k
nkaisare
03-25-2003, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by AdamBrill
j/k
I guess that wasn't required. "j/k" was implied from the nature of your reply.
AdamBrill
03-25-2003, 05:52 PM
I can't believe you said that after reading this thread... :rolleyes: :p
Larkdog
03-25-2003, 07:41 PM
this topic of "hiding source code" has really gone around the block a few times... many say it can never be done, however, you can make it extremely difficult for someone (the inexperienced)

take for example this little page... I bet you can't get its source code! http://24.144.19.198/hidden/hidden.html
AdamBrill
03-25-2003, 07:51 PM
Here you go:<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<!-- saved from url=(0044)http://24.144.19.198/hidden/doubleclick.html -->
<!-- Error loading document --><!-- Blast! You've found the source code! --><!-- let me know if you can think of ways to make this more cunnung. --><!-- usual html start stuff --><HTML><HEAD><TITLE></TITLE>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"><!-- you like that? it redirects if you turn off js --><NOSCRIPT>
<META http-equiv=refresh content=0;url=p.html></NOSCRIPT><!-- you can't look at just this page. it always jumps to frameset -->
<SCRIPT language=javascript><!--
if (top.frames.length == 0) top.location = "hidden.html";
//--></SCRIPT>

<STYLE type=text/css>#glass {
LEFT: 0px; POSITION: absolute; TOP: 0px
}
.big {
FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 70pt
}
BODY {
FONT-SIZE: 17pt
}
</STYLE>

<META content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0" name=GENERATOR></HEAD>
<BODY text=#ffffff vLink=#999999 aLink=#ffff00 link=#0000ff bgColor=#000000
topMargin=10 marginwidth="10" marginheight="10">
<SCRIPT language=javascript><!--

// no explanation needed
function disable_right_click(e) {
var browser = navigator.appName.substring (0,9);
var event_number = 0;
if (browser=="Microsoft") event_number = event.button;
else if (browser=="Netscape")
event_number = e.which;
if ( event_number==2 || event_number==3 )
{ alert ("Please..."); return (false); }
return (true);
}

// sniffs for key that activates context menus
function check_mousekey() {
var mouse_key = 93;
var keycode = event.keyCode;
if ( keycode == mouse_key )
alert ( "Well, well... looks like somebody did their homework." );
}

// self explanatory
function trap_page_mouse_key_events() {
var browser = navigator.appName.substring ( 0, 9 );
document.onmousedown = disable_right_click;
if ( browser == "Microsoft" )
document.onkeydown = check_mousekey;
else if ( browser == "Netscape" )
document.captureEvents( Event.MOUSEDOWN );
}

// self explanatory
window.onload = trap_page_mouse_key_events;

// resizes glass.gif to cover entire screen
if (document.body.clientWidth) {
var xxx = document.body.clientWidth;
var yyy = document.body.clientHeight;
}
else if (window.innerWidth) {
var xxx = window.innerWidth;
var yyy = window.innerHeight;
}
else {
var xxx = 2000;
var yyy = 2000;
}
// yet another event handler
document.oncontextmenu = function() { return false; }

//--></SCRIPT>
<!-- actual page content --><FONT color=#ffffff><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV align=center>
<DIV class=big>Try to get it!</DIV><BR><BR><B>Snag that pesky source code.
</B></DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>Still can't hide the source... It took me a whole minute... :D
Larkdog
03-25-2003, 07:52 PM
:)
fun though huh?!
Larkdog
03-25-2003, 08:27 PM
#1 for people like me?:confused:

#2 what the heck is
javascript:var myWin=window.open("","myWin","width=800,height=600,scrollbars,resizable,menubar");var myStr=document.documentElement.outerHTML;myStr=myStr.replace(/\</g,"&lt;").replace(/\>/g,"&gt;").replace(/\r\n/g,"<br>");myWin.document.open();myWin.document.write(myStr);myWin.document.close();

#3 for people like ME? you must mean the javascript MORONS like me!! hahahaha, i have no clue whatsoever what all that stuff means!! it took me about an hour to figure out how to get the source code and I did it the old fashioned way!
Larkdog
03-25-2003, 08:35 PM
hehe ROTFLMAO...

thinking,

thinking,

thinki OOOOOHHHH!!!!!

"Rolling on the floor laughing my a_._ off"!! i get it
Larkdog
03-25-2003, 08:40 PM
oops
DaveSW
03-26-2003, 01:45 PM
view source on the view menu works well too.


edit

just tried on a diff machine and it doesn't. neat i think. My machine must have got these naughty habits off my bro lol