I've seen a few threads and posts in this forum where people have asked where to get hosting from, so I thought I'd make this sticky. If you have any recommendations or anti-recommendations as to who to go to (or not go to as the case may be) then this is the place to post about it.
I'll be heavily moderating this thread to make sure it stays on topic, if you want to talk to someone about something to get more details then do it via a PM, and maybe that person could come back and make an amendment to their post if neccessary. Remember, edit your already existing post, don't make a new one.
If I see anyone who's only post is in this thread then I will consider it advertising and delete it, if I see anyone who is obviously pimping their own hosting company then I will delete that.
Make sure that in your post you include details about the host you're talking about, 99.99% uptime and 6 TeraBytes of space for £1.99 per year doesn't count. While the hosting package and price is obviously worth mentioning it's not the be all and end all. Be sure to back up why you think they're good or bad with a short description of why you think that. I don't want to see recommendations for hosts that you're going to try out either, if you personally haven't used them then as a recommendation it doesn't carry much weight.
I'll start the ball rolling with an anti-recomendation, my current host is www.web-hosting.uk.com and they are ... not a good host. Quite often any pages that use ASP (which is pretty much my entire site) will simply stop working and no content will be sent to the browser. All normal .html pages will continue to be sent fine, I'm not sure if PHP pages still work during these "outages" as I've never had any to test. However, they are a pretty cheap UK based host and use the easy to get around helm (http://www.webhostautomation.com/) CMS for their admin panel, so if you're just starting out and don't use a server-side language, they might be worth considering.
JPnyc
05-19-2005, 09:45 PM
If you're in the U.S.A, godaddy.com. Best support around and it's 24/7. Great pricing/features. Website is a bit complex, but the support'll get you through that too.
Jupac
05-19-2005, 09:47 PM
http://www.dreamhost.com/ a freind of mines has this its amazing
EDIT: A MOD TOLD ME TO EDIT THIS =)
Well the sign-up fee is pretty high, i didnt know about it because when me and my freind sign up it was wavied. The servers are realiable and fast. Also you get a free domain
Sanim
05-19-2005, 10:10 PM
http://asmallorange.com
They have cPanel (http://cpanel.net), unlimited subdomains (http://forum.mysite.com), unlimited email addresses, Fantastico (a part of cPanel that lets you install cool stuff on your site that doesn't have a flashy ad), and a lot more.
Daniel T
05-23-2005, 01:45 PM
I use Mesopia (http://www.mesopia.com/) and they have been very good.
If you desire ASP aswell as PHP, you won't be able to get their cheapest package, but their Windows hosting plans (http://www.mesopia.com/?v=services/value_class/windows) seem to be priced not excedingly high. And they also use Helm.
If you only need PHP, though, their Linux (http://www.mesopia.com/?v=services/value_class/linux) hosting plans start at $3.95/moth, and it uses cPanel :eek:
Omaha100
06-21-2005, 11:29 AM
Try Lonex if your looking for a host, especially if you are new to web sites. What you get for $4.95/mo is a full service web hosting plan. I won't try to list all the features except to say site builder software comes with it and it is one of the best I've used. Service is fast and excellent although only through e-mail. I am very happy with it after setting up 2 sites. Go to www.lonex.com.
cheersup
06-23-2005, 04:33 AM
i'll go for yahoo coz of the big name and they wavied the setup cost of $25. so around $11 dollars per month. it maybe more expensive than other sites , but it's more secure. i think it's worth to go for yahoo.
BeachSide
06-28-2005, 01:27 AM
If you're in the U.S.A, godaddy.com. Best support around and it's 24/7. Great pricing/features. Website is a bit complex, but the support'll get you through that too.
I'm sorry but after developing two sites that purchased hosting through them (godaddy) I will never recommend them again.
1. They tend to lag especially their databases
a. Not specificlly talking about my queries either I'm talking about accessing it through their phpmyadmin
b. Linking up to their FTP lags as well sometimes
c. I run ADSL 3Mb/s down and have no problem with many many other hosts that I have sites I develop on
2. They use back handed measures to attempt to "steal" clients from me
a. I have had at least 3 clients who were pretty upset with GoDaddy after I referred them there to purchase their domain name and upon completing their purchase GoDaddy called them and basically harrassed them trying to get them to go with their hosting. Fortunatly for me the clients told them that they were perfectly happy with their hosting then promptly called me to tell me of their experience with GoDaddy's pressure tactics.
3. Their interface is complicated to run people who are not as "web savvy" as we are through. You ever try to explain the step by step instructions of how to navigate GoDaddy's UI to a person who at one time has said something like "I didn't know you sent me anything in the email, it didn't have a paperclip next to it"
Anyway not to sound disgruntled... If you want cheap cheap cheap then ya go with them.
intelligentfool
06-28-2005, 03:04 AM
my recommendation is Start Logic (http://www.startlogic.com). My site's main purpose is for visitors to listen to streaming music, or download large files (30-200mb). I'm relatively novice when it comes to actual scripting code (php, asp) but their support for it seems excellent so far. Currently I pay 7.95/month for 5gigs of storage, 100gb of transfer, unlimited email, up to 20 databases. I've had them for 2 years now, and aside from their numbers, the other reason i picked them was that the first time i called their tech support (before i was actually a customer, just to check) i got thru on the first ring, and i can honestly say, unless you call at say, 9am est or 5pm est, then you'll get thru fast. I cant think of what else to say, but i recommend them to anyone getting a website. really top notch.
one con... i've noticed that when in dreamweaver, if i do a site wide sync, i get disconnected alot (and automatically reconnected with 2004 mx), but... i'm thinking it has more to do with dreamweaver than it does my server.
smoker
06-29-2005, 01:30 PM
Hi,
I am reading this thread eagerly, as I came visitng with the exact same question. I have been with UK2.net for several years now and really need to change badly, they are ........... ! I wish I had changed earlier. I now need to transfer 25 domains because I am so sick and tired of their bad customer service and 'attitude'.
I have currently been trying to find out why 'Webdiversion' has stopped working on one of my domains, a simple task you might think, but I have been trying since the 15th of this month. It is not possible to contact them by anything other than e-mail, they never sign their names, their answers to client enquiries are blunt and often plain rude. Most of my mailed queries about the current loss of my webdiversion have been ignored.
When I first sent the query I had a one line reply which told me that my domain was not with them and so they could not help...... This was despite my domain being on my list of domains, on their nameserver, and if you did a search on it, it came up as "A UK2 domain", I transferred it in to them in 2003 and had the documentation.
Being rather puzzled by this response, I pointed out all of this to them; I was then informed that they had 'lost' my domain....... or it had been 'stolen', for the second time in two years, simply because they had not locked it despite it being a .com domain. I could go on and on, but it's too tedious.
They are utterly dreadful and I would not recommend them to anyone, they are cheap, but I guess this is a good example of the old adage that you get what you pay for.
Avoid UK2.net !
smoker
06-30-2005, 01:50 AM
Does anyone have any recommendations for UK hosting companies ?
Thanks
Ray
minority
07-08-2005, 03:08 AM
ukhost4u.com are pretty good i was with there cheap home hosting when they had it but that has sadly gone.
They have a package for 30 or 40 quid a year that has 1 or 1.5gb of space and 15gb transfer unlimited subdomains and dtabases and free domain last time i checked you can choose between windows or linux hosting with php and asp on the windows box (I think)
I had slight bit of down time but that was with the lowcosthost part of them soon as i moved to ukhost4u i have had no down time.
vinoth
07-09-2005, 03:17 AM
www.ispcheck.com
check there you can find a nice bunch of hosts, my recommandations are to go with
http://www.hotlinkhosting.com
Bryan G
09-28-2005, 06:08 AM
After reading all this, I guess I'm not going to switch to a different hosting provider.
I found this thread because my site went down yesterday so I thought I'd look around. The more I looked the more I liked what I had.....
As someone else stated, godaddy is not good, I was there for a year and didn't like it. You have little control and it's slow.
I've been with http://navigatoris.net/ for 3 years and they've only been down 2 times, once for a HDD failure (they were on it within minutes and were back up very fast) and yesterday from a DDOS attack. 2 times in 3 years is great in my opinion (that's better than 99.9% i think), no host can give 100% up time, stuff happens.
They have cpanel with fantastico and unlimited addon domains, subdomains, parked domains, email accounts, email forwards, MySQL databases, auto responders (email), mailing lists, email filters and FTP accounts.
There prices are not the cheapest, but close. There new prices includes 300megs space 6gigs bandwidth for $3.99 a month. I have a special package because they bought out my old host and promised to keep my prices the same, not gonna say, but cheap.
If you want to see there speed (please don't kill my bandwidth) you can d/l a vids here just to test http://oahu4u.com/_pix&vids/surf.shtml, please just download one. I'm not associated with them in any other way than just a customer, I live in Hawaii and I think there in NJ.
Benji2005
10-16-2005, 06:51 AM
Does it matter if i sign up for a us site eventhou i live in the uk? Is this possible?
David Harrison
10-16-2005, 02:48 PM
I live in the UK and I bought some hosting from Dreamhost who are a US company (thanks for the recommendation Jupac ;)), I paid via Paypal which converted the currency automatically for me into dollars and sent it on.
rockergirl
10-19-2005, 04:48 PM
I would go to page-zone.com (http://www.page-zone.com)!!! I've been with them for 3 years and I've had no problems with them. There deals are great and prices are cheap!!! They have a good forum where you can get GREAT tips. Page Zone Web Hosting is straightforward, and easy-to-use. They have great support, tutorials, and outstanding tools!!! I'm glad I'm doing business with Page Zone Web Hosting!!!!
JohnWeatherby
10-19-2005, 07:01 PM
I have had good luck with U.S.-based Globat.com (http://www.globat.com) hosting a Canadian (.ca) domain/website.
Their prices are reasonable for the level of service they provide. PHP, MySQL, a web-based console for database, email and other account settings. Servers run FreeBSD Unix.
The only downtime I have had was scheduled 2 weeks in advance for server upgrades. The only problem that I have encountered was the loss of server stats for 3 days (which was no problem since I collect stats on each page anyways.)
Tech support by email is fairly fast and a knowledgable staff make support easy.
I can't say enough about Globat.
Bryan G
10-20-2005, 12:35 AM
I need to say, after seeing all the posts here, my host seems to be about the the best, Navigator Solutions (http://navigatoris.net/)
I like the price at MHER.org EDIT: mher sux, soemone hacked my email and they shut me down without contacting me and deleted all my stuff then later eplained that my script wasn't secure and someone mass mailed through my online feedback form, and Big Wow (http://www.bigwowwebhosting.com/plans.php) looked good, their prices are a little better than mine, but I've had 2 times down in 3 years, both times were for about 6 hours and they were on it asap as well as keeping customers informed as they were fixing the problems with email in in their forums. I've also had good customer support. I would like to get the mini reseller but I'm I've always lived by "if it ain't broke don't fix it", so I'm hesitant to change.
Brollachan
10-20-2005, 02:59 AM
For UK webhosting I use Supanames (http://www.supanames.com). I've been using them since about 2000, and consider them to be very good value for money. They are also very good in terms of support, in responding to emails usuallly within a couple of hours.
For example, their cheapest hosting package is £13.99 per year, and for that you get; 35Mb webspace, 1 MySQL database (no size stated), 2Gb bandwidth...
Silvatungfox
10-21-2005, 08:54 PM
I do actually know of a good hosting outfit, it is a package deal with hosting and your own domain name, etc etc but since I do not want to violate the posting rules anyone interested in the details can contact me directly. Since I sell the package I think it would be wrong to post it here, and I mean to follow the rules.
I have in the past also used Lycros, Tripod, Freeyellow and a varity of others, and never thought about marketing them, once I found my current host plan I also signed up to market it. The free ones are good if you know how to build your own site, and some even have website builders that are pretty basic.
Silvatungfox
10-29-2005, 12:34 PM
I went with http://www.website.ws/kvmlm2/hosting.dhtml?sponsor=silvatungfox since they include the domain name, webspace and 10 mailboxes for ten bucks and it is a global hosting deal. Your dot is not com.. it is dot ws, but that does not affect ranking in the search engines.
Bryan G
10-29-2005, 08:15 PM
I went with http://www.website.ws/kvmlm2/hosting.dhtml?sponsor=silvatungfox since they include the domain name, webspace and 10 mailboxes for ten bucks and it is a global hosting deal. Your dot is not com.. it is dot ws, but that does not affect ranking in the search engines.
I'm sorry to tell you this, but your getting ripped off. Read my next post.
Bryan G
10-29-2005, 10:05 PM
I don't know if people are actually reading the posts here. Back in the beginning someone posted about mher and Big Wow. mher has 100 megs for $0.99 a month and Big Wow has 100 megs for $1.
Two posts ago, the one from Silvatungfox, The host offers 100 megs for $10 a month with a free domain. A domain is only about $9 a YEAR! 100 megs of web space is only worth about $1.00 a month. So this "FREE DOMAIN" isn't worth crap, they pay $0.66 a month (that's what you can pay with godaddy (http://godaddy.com)) for the domain and the hosting is only worth about $1 a month, so the whole things worth $1.66 a month and their charging $10 a month. THEN, these kind of hosts offer somewhere around 10 email accounts, 10? With mher and Big Wow you have control over your email, you make as many accounts as you want, also as many forwards. And they offer the same choices of using your own email program or web mail. You can also add as many domains as you want as well as creating an unlimited amount FTP accounts.
I'm with Navigator IS and their price is almost the same, but they start at 300 megs of space for $3.99 and then 500 megs for $4.99.
If you need a web page builder because you just don't know how to build one, mher, Big Wow and NavigatorIS all offer very advanced ones.
Here's the biggest difference between these rip off hosts like the last post and the ones I'm talking about, control. You have complete control over almost every aspect of your space from FTP to MySQL. I have an example of the control panel here (http://abcwd.com/cpanelex/). I don't have time, but I'd like to breakdown all the parts, like how easy it is to add email accounts and FTP accounts or a password protected directory and sub-domains.
There is no reason for using these limited hosts! I'm so sick of seeing adds that make it sound like a "free domain" or "10 email accounts" is worth something, because it's not.
I bought one of mhers $0.99 accounts to test it. For a month it's been up 27/7 and I tested the speed and it is as fast as where I'm at now. I might be switching. I paid $10.99 for 12 months so they give you a discount for paying for a year.
edit
one more note. I never used any extras before, I was with godaddy hosting and they had almost no options but I had my space on the web. Once I got the plan i have now with cpanel I started using php, mysql, extra email accounts and domains. I have password protected directories where friends can upload stuff and can be accessed through a web browser. If you don't have cpanel or something similar your getting ripped off no matter what you pay or how much space you get.
Skewers
10-31-2005, 07:01 AM
Hi - I'm trying to develop a business case for an Asp. I'm looking for a place to compare costs/features of potential hosting providers. The application has the following characteristics:
- Low number of users, 50 or so (great if more but unlikely)
- High security required, the application will need to host client data (proof will be required by client IT departments).
- SQL Server 2005 based using Analysis Services, integration services.
- Will need IIS
- Will need a front-end client software from a third-party provider
- Will need to have access to manage the application remotely (probably obvious, I suppose)
- UK based.
- Space requirements could be 10-15GB per client, 10 clients maximum (although probably less in reality).
Any help or advice as to what to do next would be much appreciated.
David Harrison
10-31-2005, 08:04 AM
Well I'm not sure who you should go to for, but I would definately recommend looking into getting a dedicated server to host on, as opposed to getting a shared hosting package.
Hurstool
11-28-2005, 09:31 AM
I have been using LunarPages.com (http://www.lunarpages.com) , and am extremely happy with them. They keep adding free features to their plans, bumping up the bandwidth, etc, and their customer service is great. You can see a history of their additions here. (http://www.lunarpages.com/news.php)
As one of the above posters mentioned, control of your website and email is key. LunarPages has a fantastic control panel with a ton of options, they have a demo (http://www.lunarpages.com/cp.php) here.
I highly recommend them.
Ultimater
11-30-2005, 12:44 PM
Avoid Canaca.com!!!! Can't even install Perl modules on it because they use Ensim-based servers and not Cpanel! Yet they are very cheap so and a great deal for static webpages. If you decide to use them, don't miss-read their actual rates (they try to cheat you by telling you the prices for the 24 months billing session as the default elsewhere -- the cheaper one):
Anybody had any dealings with 1and1? They seem to have a good package but I was wondering about their service, etc.
EasyWeb
12-14-2005, 03:19 PM
the reason i suggested Inetdog was because it's where we host our Search Engine and we've had no trouble and good speed plus they offer a lot of bonus packages that are exceptionally cheap and it's one of the few linux based servers that also offer asp support as standard and cold fusion MX cheaper than $2 a month
LeeU
12-14-2005, 03:39 PM
It's interesting that their layout is exactly like godaddy's.
EasyWeb
12-14-2005, 06:12 PM
Most of them run out of the same data center and just rent the servers they then resell those hosting plans to us nice earner if you can get a foot in the door unfortunately competition is pretty nasty and unless your experienced you can get into trouble very easily we thought about it but decided that running a SE was less headache lol.
I wouldn't mind finding a data center that would just rent to me but all i have approached have a waiting list that could take years to get through as most hosting companies unless they go broke won't give up their golden goose.
sae
12-14-2005, 10:44 PM
I have been using www.bethehost.com for a while now and I'm happy with their service. They own their own servers and are usually on MSN, AIM, etc if you need a question answered immediately.
chazzy
01-09-2006, 01:41 PM
Anyone have a host to recommend, Shared Environment/PHP/MySQL 5/Linux/Unix/Windows doesn't matter. but MySQL 5 is the key thing.
jamesx521
01-18-2006, 12:57 PM
http://asmallorange.com
They have cPanel (http://cpanel.net), unlimited subdomains (http://forum.mysite.com), unlimited email addresses, Fantastico (a part of cPanel that lets you install cool stuff on your site that doesn't have a flashy ad), and a lot more.
Does unlimited subdomains means that I can run 5-10 different websites under the same account and pay for one account?
Thanks.
David Harrison
01-18-2006, 01:30 PM
James, yes it does, but you might run out of space if you keep adding on loads of sites.
jamesx521
01-18-2006, 07:03 PM
The sites I'll run are 5-10-20 pages and probably wouldn't be more than 2-3 MB each. I doubt I'll go over 15-20 MB for all sites. If I can pay for one account and run 5 different sites, than that's great.
I currently use hypermart.net
I've been recently looking at http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=best+web+hosting
Most of the top web-host reviewing sites rank Blue Host as #1. I think I read that some offer up to 5 free domains. But, that deal that the poster mentioned (look 2 postings before this one), offers unlimited domains. Is it even better?
P.S.
How do unlimited bandwidth compare with let's say 10, 100 or 500MB bandwidth? http://www.hosting-review.com/
David Harrison
01-18-2006, 09:30 PM
When it says unlimited domains, it doesn't mean they'll give you as many domains as you want, it means they'll host as many domains as you want, you still have to buy the domains.
If you said that your sites are typically 2-3MB in size, then you won't need much bandwidth at all, and it probably isn't a concern for you, but then again, I don't know how many hits you get, so you'll have to work it out for yourself.
webbo11
01-30-2006, 03:11 PM
Does unlimited subdomains means that I can run 5-10 different websites under the same account and pay for one account?
Thanks.
No, it doesn't. Unlimited domains means you can have as many websites hosted under that account as you wish. But SUBdomains are just subsections of the same website/domain. for instance if you have your website http://www.james.com and say you have a bulletin board system on your website, you could set it up so that users would just type in say http://bbs.james.com and they would be sent to your bbs (bulletinboard system) site. this bbs site is actually just another folder inside of your website.
baseiber
01-30-2006, 04:18 PM
I like Netfirms.com (http://www.netfirms.com). The price is decent, their tools are easy to use, and they have very little down time.
In the 4 years I've used them they have only gone down twice and that was a matter of minutes. I love their tools. I especially like that I can do a quick edit on pages right on the site. They offer lots of email accounts, site statistics, PHP4 and 5, and mySQL database.
The only thing I don't like is that they don't offer ASP, ASP.NET and SQL Server 2000.
I just started using GoDaddy.com for windows hosting. So far everything is ok but setting up a site is really complicated and the navigation on their website is horrible.
I only went with GoDaddy because a friend recommended them.
redback
03-01-2006, 04:23 AM
Just thought I'd add my two cents worth. I've also had clients who have bad experiences with GoDaddy not to mention their site.
If you're looking for a good host in Australia I can't recommend Digitalis (http://www.digitalis.com.au) highly enough. Excellent service. Very little downtime - always notify when maintenace is going on. Instant personal response to queries. CPanel and all the frills. $ 12.95 pm for two domains. $19.95 for three domains. And worth every darn cent. They host anywhere actually. So even o/s can use them.
Bryan G
03-01-2006, 06:53 AM
Just thought I'd add my two cents worth. I've also had clients who have bad experiences with GoDaddy not to mention their site.
If you're looking for a good host in Australia I can't recommend Digitalis (http://www.digitalis.com.au) highly enough. Excellent service. Very little downtime - always notify when maintenace is going on. Instant personal response to queries. CPanel and all the frills. $ 12.95 pm for two domains. $19.95 for three domains. And worth every darn cent. They host anywhere actually. So even o/s can use them.That is way expensive for little service. Most hosts that give you cpanel give you unlimited domains, also 200 megs of space for $12 is a rip off, and $22 for a domain is terrible. Either you work for them and are advertising or your getting ripped off badly.
I was with NavigatorIS (http://navigatoris.net/shared-shared.php) for 2 years, and there up time is around 99%. there lowest package is 300MB space 6GB transfer at $3.99 pm. They give you unlimited domains, unlimited email, and a lot more. I went to another host to save money, I'm going to post more about that tomorrow, I was ripped off by mher.org, I think I found a good one now, from a previous post.
I have been using www.bethehost.com for a while now and I'm happy with their service. They own their own servers and are usually on MSN, AIM, etc if you need a question answered immediately.This is who I'm with now, www.bethehost.com. $10.00 a month for 4 gigs plus unlimited everything, almost. That's their most expensive shared hosting service with 1 gig added on, Their smallest is 600 megs for $3.95.
I singed up with them last week after mher.org shut me down. It was 6:30 here in Hawaii and I was desperately looking for a host to get my customers sites back up. I like their pricing and they had a phone number. I called, it was 11:30pm their time on Saterday night, and the owner answered the phone, nice. About 3 hours later I signed up with them. Then I found their yahoo ID and added it, they were there, that was like 3:00am their time, and they seem to be there about 75% of the time. The owner also told me that if they aren't there his pager goes off when they get a phone call.
There service is good so far, They had customers with the same problem that made mher shut me down. He explained that they will shut you down, but then call you on the phone and inform you, give you a chance to fix the problem and them turn your account back on. mher just shut me down and cancelled my account even though I told them I would fix the prob.
They have cpanel and nice prices.
redback
03-01-2006, 03:04 PM
Aw geez you don't have to be so harsh. No I don't work for them and as far as I'm concerned I'm not getting ripped off. In the 7 years I've been in web development I've used 5 different hosts and the 100 or so clients I've had have given me the unfortunate experience of having to deal with many, many more. GoDaddy would have to have been the worst and one other local one in my area. This area is for opinion and that's what I gave. I feel that service counts for about 80% of what you pay for and that's what digitalis (http://www.digitalis.com.au) give you. Service above all else. 200MB is fine for my purposes and I have not had a client whose needed more than this. I have three domains hosted for AUS$19.95 month and I'm quite happy to pay AUS$22.00 year for my domains. They don't put a registrar lock on my domain name as I have seen numerous other registrars do and caused my clients heaps of problems. It is the owner you deal with whenever you have a problem. I've had my sites hosted with them for nearly 4 years now and whenever I've needed to contact them I've had a reply through their helpdesk within 15 minutes. Every time.
As for the price AUS $12.95 month is about US$9 and bethehost @ US$3.95 is about AUS$5.50 so they're not exactly the rip-off that you state. And don't forget that Australia has a much smaller population than the US. A bit hard for an Australian host to match US prices when their share of the market is so much proportionately less. I recommended digitalis (http://www.digitalis.com.au) as a host for Australian readers - I think that we should support our own country before we go looking overseas for that "perfect deal". I just added that they can host o/s sites becasue this forum is to recommend good hosts and that's exactly what they are. And again no I don't work for them and I don't resell for them. It was a plug for a company that deserves it.
wh666-666
03-01-2006, 04:57 PM
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Anybody had any dealings with 1and1? They seem to have a good package but I was wondering about their service, etc.
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Lee
Interesting topic, just wanted to respond to lee. Ive been with 1and1.co.uk for a while. Register all my domains with them because their the cheapest and best and unrivaled cust service (but for dot coms order on the dot com site as after currency conversion its cheaper) and technical, (e.g. they say allow up to 24 hours for changes but unlike other competitors where it takes minutes to hours to change something 9/10 its been almost instantanious). Anyway as for their hosting its ok, excellent customer service (confirming orders and help), but just not the cheapest or offer the most. (basing my experience on the £9 package, cgi, sql etc. just not the cheapest available) I used to use a hosting package with them alot but nowadays i use multiple free no-add hosts and just keep one paid hoster (50webs is an exceptional free host, better than some paid ones!) as i dont use cgi, sql etc on a regular basis and dont need loadsa storage for most things just good uptime and fast access and good bandwith for visitors which it provides
Bryan G
03-01-2006, 04:58 PM
IF your paying what you pay to keep the money in your own country, and you know there are better deals out there, then I understand and respect that.
As for the price AUS $12.95 month is about US$9 and bethehost @ US$3.95 is about AUS$5.50 so they're not exactly the rip-off that you state. It's not the price I was getting at, it's what you get, unlimited domains/email accounts/mysql-databases/sub-domains/email-forwarders. Also, reputable domain registrars charges $8.95 a year and the domain is completely in your name to move and do as you want.
Bryan G
03-01-2006, 05:10 PM
(page 2) (50webs is an exceptional free host, better than some paid ones!) as i dont use cgi, sql etc on a regular basis and dont need loadsa storage for most things just good uptime and fast access and good bandwith for visitors which it providesI'm glad you posted them, I never heard of 50webs but they look good, especially for people that don't need all that Xtra stuff. Perfect for personal pages.
I'm going to give them a try with my wifes personal page and recomend them to some friends.
LeeU
03-01-2006, 05:27 PM
I had just checked out HostGator (www.hostgator.com/) . I read a lot of good reports about them in different reviews. Any use them?
wh666-666
03-01-2006, 05:30 PM
glad i could help, it did take me a while as well to find good hosts! (feel free to visit me at www.contrast-computers.co.uk - suggestions welcome) if you like so you can check response time (flash site though) but still like paid hosting speed. I even use them for business pages because many clients dont need advanced scripting, just flash or html without cust databases. For others out there ive just logged on and thought id share, this is what they now offer for free apparently (no i dont work for them):
▪ 60 MB Free Hosting
▪ Host Unlimited Domains
▪ Host Unlimited WebSites
▪ Unlimited Bandwidth (to an extent as we all know)
▪ 1 Free FTP Account (file manager easier to use with loads of upload fields)
▪ Ultra Fast Network
▪ Linux Servers
wh666-666
03-01-2006, 05:36 PM
nah never heard of hostgator before LeeU - but had a look and they seem cheap and enticing huh?! i might give them a try as they seem to offer alot! especially all the supported ext and e-comm - looks good!
JayM
03-10-2006, 03:02 PM
I had just checked out HostGator (www.hostgator.com/) . I read a lot of good reports about them in different reviews. Any use them?
I have a few websites with HostGator. They're great, I'd recommend them. Excellent service in general. Depending on the size of the website, I either go with HostGator or ICDSoft for php driven websites. ICDSoft.com support is fantastic. They answer questions in less than 15 mintues, guaranteed! Usually my questions were answered in about 3 minutes. Their hosting plans are also one of the cheapest, but they lack diversity.
For ASP driven websites, I go with bananahosting.com. If you want quality, you have to pay for it. And this is what this company delivers. They're a little more expensive than other ASP hosts such as GoDaddy, but we all know godaddy. Customer service replies take 2 days and you run into all sorts of problems that you wouldn't run into with another webhost. I'll never go with them again.
A google search of "godaddy sucks" or "godaddy hosting" should give you an idea. They offer 500gb bandwith and 50gb storage as a desperate attempt to keep their business alive.
Here's an example of the godaddy support:
http://marc.perkel.com/archives/000861.html
The best web hosting review website I have found is www.webhostingjury.com.
jamesx521
03-12-2006, 10:05 PM
I am in the US, looking for a new web host that maybe can do more than what I've been using up till now -- Hypermart.net -- for several years. It's not that I am disappointed with them. I just don't have much knowledge of what is a good vs. bad webhost and it's not my field of knowledge too. I don't know what their reputation is in the world of webhosting. What is it?
When I search on google for best web hosting I see that there are a bunch of websites that specialize in ranking webhosts... unless, they've been put there by the webhosts themselves as an advertisement for themselves. I was hoping to find a web host that would allow me to run several domain names with several different websites under one account and one log-in, so my different websites will be placed in separate folders for each domain name/website and I can upload my files into whichever website I want. However, as one of the previous posters mentioned -- it doesn't really work like that. Ok, if not that way, then anyway... what would you advise for running many sites under different domain names with ONE webhost and I can easily log-out of one account and log-in to another one quickly? Which webhosts?
Also, something that will give me free-bees -- such as shopping carts, or even if I have to pay for it.
What is the reputation for those sites that are ranked high on the web-host-ranking-websites on google's best web hosting?
Also, I had bought a domain name from godaddy; since I don't plan to purchase webhosting with them, is it easy to transfer the domain from them -- to a new webhost that I will get?
Thanks.
-jms
Bryan G
03-13-2006, 02:25 AM
Also, I had bought a domain name from godaddy; since I don't plan to purchase webhosting with them, is it easy to transfer the domain from them -- to a new webhost that I will get?
Thanks.
-jms
You don't have to transfer your domain, you just need to point the nameservers to your new web host. I just moved to bethehost.com (http://www.bethehost.com/), so far so good, I've only been with them for about a month but they offer the same as most other for a lower price. They're support is why I went to them, when I was looking for a new host it was 11:30pm EST and I called them and someone was there to talk to, that's rare. They have the free-bees you want, you have control on the domains, you buy as many domains from godaddy as you want then point there name-servers to bethehost's servers and then you go to the control panel and add the domains, it'll put them in there own folder and you have exactly what you said you want.
There are other ones that offer the same, what you want is a host that offers cpanel. cpanel is a control panel for adding more domains and adding email accounts, shopping carts, forums and so on. I was with navaigatoris.net for a long time, there very good but cost a little more. The main thing is don't go with mher.org or godaddy for hosting or any host that limits your domains and email accounts, there is no reason for those to be limited.
I have 17 domains under one account, you can check out the speed of there servers if you want by going to one of my sites, http://oahu4u.com and download one of the surf videos. As you navigat to them and download one you can get an idea of the speed.
jamesx521
03-13-2006, 08:09 AM
So, are you saying that you pay for one account, yet, in your account you manage 17 domains that lead to different websites?
My domain name is up for renewal with godaddy, then can I renew it with bethehost.com, or it's a contract that I have to continue with godaddy and as you're saying just point the name server to the web host?
Yes, I downloaded the .WMV very fast.
-jms
wh666-666
03-13-2006, 08:22 AM
Hey james, as i mentioned above 50webs do that as well, thats what i do on one of my accounts, having several different "virtual hosts" where you can create different site folders within one account, and its free
NogDog
03-13-2006, 11:13 AM
I've been using IpowerWeb.com (http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-1957006-1200207) for about a year and a half now with no complaints. Basic plan includes PHP, Perl, and MySQL; has many applications available; and up-time has been superb.
Bryan G
03-13-2006, 01:56 PM
So, are you saying that you pay for one account, yet, in your account you manage 17 domains that lead to different websites?
My domain name is up for renewal with godaddy, then can I renew it with bethehost.com, or it's a contract that I have to continue with godaddy and as you're saying just point the name server to the web host?
Yes, I downloaded the .WMV very fast.
-jms
Leave your domains on godaddy, they are a good place to have your domains, there just not a good hosting service. Like is said, it don't matter who has your domain, that's separate from your web hosting.
Yes I have 17 domains, they are all on godaddy, but my web space is at bethehost.com. At bethehost.com I just made folders for the domains, like "oahu4u.com" is pointed to a folder called "oahu" and my domain "michiganliving.com" is pointed to a folder called "mich". Then everything in the "oahu" folder is the site oahu4u.com and so on.
jamesx521
03-13-2006, 02:25 PM
I assume that bethehost.com also offers offers PHP, MySQL, etc. Or, how about this; if there is something you don't like about bethehost.com, what is it?
Bryan G
03-13-2006, 09:16 PM
I assume that bethehost.com also offers offers PHP, MySQL, etc. Or, how about this; if there is something you don't like about bethehost.com, what is it?They have php mysql and in a easy to use web interface, I'm new to that and with cpanel it's easy. The only thing I don't like is that they don't have fantastico. That's a section in cpanel that has other bulletin boards, guest books and other neet extras, but you can get those on the web for free anyways, you just have to install them yourself and with fantastico you can install, an example, you can install phbb by clicking a link, you didn't need to make your own mysql database or anything, it just worked, now if I want any of that I need to make the databases and all.
But like I said, with the web interface it's easy.
I've only been here a month, so I haven't had time to find any complaints.
Hey james, as i mentioned above 50webs do that as well, thats what i do on one of my accounts, having several different "virtual hosts" where you can create different site folders within one account, and its free
I have an account with 50webs, there service is OK but the control panel doesn't offer much and is difficult to use, cpanel offers a lot more and is easier to use. http://ice2k3.com is hosted there.
http://www.dreamhost.com/ was mentioned earlier, they seem good to, but it don't use cpanel, so I have no idea on how easy the management will be.
Also earlier http://asmallorange.com was mentioned and there prices are good and they have cpanel.
It's a tough choice, like I said, I went for cpanel and customer support as the most important things.
edit: I choose bethehost from reading all the posts in this thread, I went to all the hosts mentioned and checked them out. Bethehost offered the most, and for a low price. Their customer support seems better, they are on Yahoo Instant Messanger about 80% of the time and they have a phone number that goes to a pager if no ones there. That I found to be the most important, when there is a problem and the server is down, I don't want to wait, I want help NOW!
One more edit: if you go to be the host, let me know, they have a referal service and I can get some money off my bill, if you don't mind, it's no big deal though.
jamesx521
03-15-2006, 01:54 PM
I will let you know Bryan, when I'm ready to go with them.
Bryan G
03-15-2006, 03:11 PM
I will let you know Bryan, when I'm ready to go with them.
Thanx for that.
But like I was saying, if you don't go with them, at least make sure you get "cpanel" and unlimited domains & email addresses. I really think cpanel is the easiest interface for controlling your account. There is no reason that a host can't provid that much and still be cheap.
Good luck, it's a pain trying to pick a host with all the choices, trying to figure out what one will treat you right and stay in business longer than a year.
BeTheHost
03-16-2006, 12:06 PM
The only thing I don't like is that they don't have fantastico.[/I]
Well been here a few time, join about a month ago, thanks to Bryan who gave us the link when he ordered :)
Now I don't think this break any rules, but if it does I am really sorry. Just want to clear this up a little.
Bryan, click the Scripts Library Link inside your cpanel account ;)
it's not fantastico, it's auto-installer V3 :D
Bryan G
03-16-2006, 02:19 PM
Well been here a few time, join about a month ago, thanks to Bryan who gave us the link when he ordered :)
Now I don't think this break any rules, but if it does I am really sorry. Just want to clear this up a little.
Bryan, click the Scripts Library Link inside your cpanel account ;)
it's not fantastico, it's auto-installer V3 :D
OK, I never looked in the scripts library because my last host had like 4 things in there so I assumed same here, but it's loaded.
OK jamesx521, I take that back, there are more things in the scripts library on bethehost than my previous hosts had in fantastico. I attached a text files listing all the Xtra scripts you get.
This means there is nothing I can find that I don't like about bethehost.com :)
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Web101newbee
05-03-2006, 12:13 PM
I have WebsitePros as my provider. I have gotten contacted by Webimage to do my site page over. They told me that I am paying for a template Webpage and for a few dollars more they will re-do and manage and promote my website. I am new to all of this, however, not happy that I have not had one sale in the 4 months of service. I have talked to them about my visitors and not one sale. Yes it is possible that my product is of no interest, however, why are they taking my money if in fact they already know this? By the messages posted others are not too happy with them either. :confused:
TheHippo
05-13-2006, 04:46 PM
http://www.startlogic.com
These guys are great, I host my animeball.com website there and I got a question answered within 12 hours, not only did they resolve the issue but also told me a danger about my site that I wasn't even aware of!
Waylander
06-15-2006, 03:19 AM
Ive had experience with the re-seller plans from www.HostNetworks.com.au an Australian based web host. I prefer web hosting companys to ones that do web development as well as they pretty much have a conflict of interest.
Not sure if anyone has had dealings with hostnetworks and has any opinions?
They have all the usual stuff Cpanel, php, mysql, phpmyadmin and the rest. The prices are in australian dollars I think they are fairly competative. I like them because they are so professional, everything is fast and capable. There are never any problems and the 24/7 support is actually very good.
Waylander.
ITahmed
06-18-2006, 10:53 PM
it depends on what you are looking for....personal support or 24 hour support.... I would stay away from real big companies..... many seem to have problems with overloading their servers..... Yahoo has real bad reviews.
Stephen Philbin
06-19-2006, 12:08 AM
I'm starting to look for a host, but that's all I want, just a host. A machine with an OS (preferably Suse) that's maintained for me and doesn't have loads of woefully out of date crap installed on it like PHP 1.1 beta or that clunky and obstructive cPanel rubbish.
Pretty much just an ssh login, wget (so I can download up to date source of Apache, PHP, MySQL, OpenSSL etc. etc.), GNU tar and gzip etc (so I can unpack them), and obviously a compiler and make.
I wanna be able to get on with what I wanna do without having to wait ages for the software to get updated to what will be an out of date version by then anyway and not have to waste time trying to make sense of the freakish nonsense that crap like cPanel brings about (PHP MyAdmin for that matter too).
I just want a host I am in control of and lets me do what I want to do, rather just having to make do with what I'm forced to use.
Anyone got any suggestions? Is there any particular "type" of hosting I should be looking for? I tried Google but it just kept coming up with all the usual one size fits all crap.
David Harrison
06-19-2006, 09:04 AM
Sounds like you need an unmanaged dedicated server, and they cost. Any shared hosting will come with a webserver installed, because it will be 1 webserver for several people, if everyone were to install their own webserver then the machine would simply run out of resources very quickly.
Also, if they were to let users install their own stuff, there would more than likely be several botched installs that work, but drain memory or CPU cycles into a black hole.
It's just not practical to give shared users free reign over a server like that. With a dedicated server though, you'd be free to knock yourself out, if you have a bad install of Apache, the only person it affects then is you, rather than however many users there are on the server.
Stephen Philbin
06-20-2006, 09:30 AM
When you say "they cost", what sort of level of "they cost" are we talking here?
I kinda figured it couldn't be shared hosting because two people on the same box trying to do the same thing just wouldn't make any sense. Though thinking about it, I guess that's why it'd cost more. Fewer people chipping cash in to the same machine, so one person would have to cover the cost of what everyone else would otherwise be paying right?
I still would want someone to cover security updates etc for the main OS though, you sure it'd be unmanaged?
wh666-666
06-20-2006, 04:27 PM
stephen, in the long run it would be cheaper to obtain your own server and connection with static IP address and be far better as well.
David Harrison
06-20-2006, 04:48 PM
An unmanaged server basically comes with an OS and you do the rest, a managed server comes with Apache, MySQL, PHP and all that jazz (which you don't want).
Dedicated servers will probably cost you at least a couple of hundred dollars per month, which is way off the chart. An alternative could be a VPS (virtual private server), basically it's 1 machine with the resources divided up among a number of users, however it's not like shared hosting because you can't exceed the resources you're allocated. VPS's are cheaper than dedicated servers, (though still quite expensive), and you won't get the same performance as a dedicated server (but it'll still be better than for shared hosting).
I think that beast is right here, you'd be better off upgrading your home connection to SDSL or something, it'd be cheaper than getting a dedicated server and you'd have complete control over the machine (not to mention a GUI).
Stephen Philbin
06-21-2006, 09:15 AM
Well part of the reason I want hosting is so I can shut my PC down once in a while. ;)
I also want to use another domain name (my dootdootdoodydoodydootdoodoooo.com for general tinkery and another properly hosted one for public use) and I want to be able to use SSL/TLS on both domains (which is something you can't do on the same IP).
That vagusnet.com place that I used to be a part of used a VPS (I assume they still do) and that's where I found my disliking for them and cPanel. >.< Though I suppose it might not be so bad if I'm the only person using it. I can just get things done the way I'm used to without having to try and figure out how to make cPanel reflect everything I've done, so that when others that use cPanel come to do something, everything matches up.
It also had that WHM (Web Host Manager) for recompiling Apache and "Installing" SSL certificates and lots of other nonsense that would have taken 2 seconds to do the normal way, but ended up taking me days to do because of all its nonsense. That's the biggest driving force behind my desire for just a box on a big fat pipe, but I don't think I'll be paying for one of those any time soom. I guess the best I can do is just mail different providers asking if I can just ignore cPanel and WHM and do it the normal way with ssh.
*le sigh*
wh666-666
06-21-2006, 04:56 PM
Why not have a totally seperate server? I have a PC or laptop in every room and in the future if i have my own server im gonna stick it in the larder near the fridge so i wont ever hear it as its cool and dry in there but shut all my other computers down when not in use and have a small screen linked in the kitchen so i can update it from the breakfast bar when i need to. I agree with david and vice versa that it will be hard to find a server thats good enough though without spending a fortune every month. I had a look out of interest and some companies really do want hundreds! I nearly died of shock david but i suppose it would be expensive for companies to outlay that service.
David Harrison
06-21-2006, 05:58 PM
I have a PC or laptop in every roomWhat possible use would a computer be in the toilet?
wh666-666
06-21-2006, 06:12 PM
lol my study is next door to my bathroom and when going for a long sh*t i do take my laptop in there. More entertaining than a newspaper. So be afraid, very afraid everybody as you dont know what im doing while typing this!
BeTheHost
07-19-2006, 01:38 AM
An unmanaged server basically comes with an OS and you do the rest, a managed server comes with Apache, MySQL, PHP and all that jazz (which you don't want).
That's wrong and the OS and everything you order has nothing to do with managed or unmanaged..
Here a little about managed and unmanaged.
Managed is when the tech's / datacenter would help repair and fix things that the basic person who's renting the server can't fix or install.
Now you have to remember they won't teach you (meaning they won't hold your hand and you still need to know the basic’s) and repair everything but 99% of the stuff they will. If you want 100% then make sure you find a host that does 100% fully managed and be ready to drop a few hundred down for that.
Now if you do have skill to fully run a server then you want to go unmanaged. Now remember if you do run into trouble and can't fix something and need help the tech / datacenters can fix it, but you will be changed for it.
But if your really good and want a more challenging experience go colo… :cool:
Drizzt
08-01-2006, 07:47 AM
is there any way to get a domain name (ex.www.something.com) for free? Or at least not something like www.freewebs.com/something, you know?
wow both of those links actually work, i didnt think they would.)
And also, when hosting with these places like godaddy, can you make them with html, or is it like a template?
wh666-666
08-01-2006, 09:04 AM
The cheapest place i know to get a .com name is http://www.1and1.co.uk (or 1and1.com) Its about £8 or £9 per year, £2 for 2 years for a .co.uk
Another way for a domain is to have a .tk ending like www.something.tk (free registration) http://www.dot.tk/en/index.html ... better than http://www.webhostingservice.com/myaccountorwebsite/ which is long and baffling.
Ive heard alot of bad things about godaddy and after chats decided to give them a try before condeming them to hell and i found them quite poor (so do other users, on a related thread the other day for example http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=114561) .. Honestly im not a refferer but i find http://www.50webs.com one of the best free hosts with no ads and good uptime and good loading speeds
Drizzt
08-01-2006, 09:17 AM
ok, im not exactly sure how much that would be in dollars.
thank you for all the info. I'm pretty new to all this (first website). so if I go to the www.dot.tk place and get a domain name, then do i go to like freewebs or 50webs and then enter it somewhere there?
i was just using godaddy as an example. On 50webs, do they give you templates to use, or can you make a page with html?
wh666-666
08-01-2006, 09:47 AM
Here's a currency converter, free website and one of the best converters and does most currencies so you can check how each british pound relates to the dollar http://www.xe.com/ucc/
Anyway no probs, we're all new to something at some point. I would advise you sign up for your hosting account first, so if you sign up to 50webs.com, then sign up for a .tk name and all you do is put in the URL address you want to forward to (on 50webs this is http://youraccountname.50webs.com/ ) and then when you type in your .tk domain it will forward to your 50webs hosted site.
I dont think 50webs offer templates, ive never checked but try this site as they have some really nice templates http://www.freewebsitetemplates.com/
You could always drag and drop and create your own site template with a "WYSIWYG" webpage builder, try googling for a free or trial version one or edit a template with dreamweaver/frontpage
And this free tool i find really useful, handy whether your new or not to webdevelopment. Its a version of notepad (.txt) that you use to alter your html manually without an editor (which you might need to do after useing editors to make it cross compatible and compliant html), if you view a html code in normal notepad it can get confusing sometimes but this notepad 2 tool highlights your code in different colours and makes it much easier for you to edit your coding. http://www.flos-freeware.ch/notepad2.html
Drizzt
08-01-2006, 12:46 PM
ok thank u for all your help. :)
i didnt really want a template, i wanted to make the website with html, so thats good.
and so you just download that flos thing, and its kind of like notepad, but better for html, cause of the highlighting and stuff?
wh666-666
08-01-2006, 06:18 PM
Yea its totally freeware and i find it extremely useful, highlighting parts of code in different colours just one reason but it has so many extras like word wrap, encoding type, etc etc and uses hardly any system resources at all
Drizzt
08-01-2006, 07:44 PM
ok thx!
so i got to the dot.tk place, get a name, and then do some domain transfer thing on 50webs?
wh666-666
08-01-2006, 08:30 PM
Get your hosting in place first (50webs.com free account) ... Then get a .tk name ... when you register your .tk name it will ask where you want to redirect to, your website address. On 50webs.com if you chose the username webbie your address would be http://webbie.50webs.com/ ... this is what you .tk domain will redirect to when people type in your .tk address
Drizzt
08-01-2006, 08:40 PM
ok thx
WebJoel
08-02-2006, 11:59 AM
is there any way to get a domain name (ex.www.something.com) for free?....
I am quite fond of http://www.awardspace.com
You are given a FREE sub-domain of 200MB, and your 'address' would look something like
http://yourname.awardspace.com
Awardspace has 'paid' hosting too, but right now the FREE one is what I have.
They are AD-less, leave you alone, let you conduct business (you can SELL things and they don't 'want a piece of the action'... must be legal activity suffice it to also add). They allow some server-side scripts (php, mySQL, etc. for those of you whom require this, and MORE scripts for the 'paid for' hosting).
I seem to feel that they are 'up' far more often than some other free hosts... never had any problem with awardspace.com. :)
The only drawback is that their uploading system only allows for THREE files at a time... so, -use an FTP program. Their FTP requires using "passive mode" or else you're not gonna get in... causes a LOT of posts in their forums of "this isn't working help me!". -It works... you just have to go "passive mode".
Aaron Yapp
08-27-2006, 06:13 PM
Hey!
i cannot praise enough the Host i am currently using: http://www.futureinternetservices.com/
not only have they got cheap rates, prices starting £1 per month, they have excellent uptime and support is top class!
Although they are from the US, i am from the UK, and whenever i send in a support, the longest i have had to wait was 30 minutes, and they were very helpful, and in some case's when i needed support that wasnt totally about the Hosting, they still helped as much as they can.
Check them out, ive been with them about 3 months, and plan to stay with them longer. They havnt done anything to me for me to change Host.
-Aaron
Drizzt
08-28-2006, 06:34 AM
:) ok thanks everyone
15hoursNow
08-28-2006, 03:07 PM
FirmSolutions.biz
A friend of mine runs that little hosting company, or he use to be a friend. I've been trying to get in touch with him since january regarding various things, SSI, and now unlocking the registrar so I can move to a different company. Its now the END of August and have yet to hear from him. I've sent email, post mail, called on the telephone, and nothing. I just renewed my domain name through his registrar so i wouldnt lose the domain name, but my hosting with him expires on September 1st and if he doesnt change the domain information with the registrar to my new hosting company, my domain name is worthless. This will probably end up in small claims court if he doesnt give me a resolution I like. So yea, FirmSolutions.biz = BAAAAAAAD
wh666-666
08-28-2006, 03:21 PM
Definetly not the way to do business! I dont know about you guys and gals but i find .biz and .tv domains a little tacky
stevensol
11-04-2006, 08:09 PM
I'm currently hosted with www.freepgs.com (http://www.freepgs.com) . For a one time fee of $30 you get 1.2 GB storage, 15 GB bandwidth/day, unlimited MySQL databases, true FTP access, and php.
Bryan G
11-19-2006, 11:24 PM
edit: this post was in response to a spam posting that has been removed. Even still, I'll just leave this as a plug for my host. After 1 year I'm still happy with them, in fact I'm more satisfied with them as each month goes by, they care about the customer.
The host I use, BeTheHost (http://www.bethehost.com), gives you 600 megs of space and 15 gigs of bandwidth with tons of options (everything mentioned above and more) as well as cpanel for $3.95 a month, less than $4. That's the cheapest package. The higher end packages are even better, the top end gives you 3 gigs and 50 gigs bandwidth for only $7.95 and the reseller packages are also very affordable.
I have a reseller account with 3 gigs, 30 gigs bandwidth for $9.95 and have been with them for over a year now so I know there solid. Best of all, they have a phone number for contact/support.
I like my old host too, they just cost too much for me but they're rock solid (I can't mention them, because I forgot who they were...If I remember I'll edit this.
p_lea
11-26-2006, 04:09 AM
same as the UK hosting post I just posted in
try www.hostingspeeds.com
it displays a speed tested list of hosting companies aruond the world. Select your country for a better list for your needs.
Bryan G
11-26-2006, 09:51 PM
same as the UK hosting post I just posted in
try www.hostingspeeds.com
it displays a speed tested list of hosting companies aruond the world. Select your country for a better list for your needs.
That site is a joke, it only lists hosts that will place their banner on the front page of the site. If a host don't put the banner up then they don't get listed. That means there are many good hosts that aren't listed.We only list web hosts that have installed the speed banner to their main page. They are also rewarded with the Green Icon showing they comply with our policy.
p_lea
11-27-2006, 01:56 AM
Agreed but they have to store a known unchangeable size of file to check your hosting speed. Just like everything online, far to many people would try to cheat. How else would you suggest you check on a level playfield? I could have posted from £19.99 a year, budget hosting at its best pdhosting.net (http://www.pdhosting.net) but think people need an open choice not anything spammed. Obviously you would say your hosting is better its your business to knock others off, we all do it.
Bryan G
11-28-2006, 01:18 AM
Agreed but they have to store a known unchangeable size of file to check your hosting speed. Just like everything online, far to many people would try to cheat. How else would you suggest you check on a level playfield? I could have posted from £19.99 a year, budget hosting at its best pdhosting.net (http://www.pdhosting.net) but think people need an open choice not anything spammed. Obviously you would say your hosting is better its your business to knock others off, we all do it.
They don't need a visible banner, it could be a little java script/hidden file, that no one else can see.
p_lea
11-28-2006, 05:05 AM
Again true but if we all ran sites using this no linking principle the net would be a closed place to be. Anyway the points been made, you like paid advertising where the biggest budgets get first place, where I obviously like the alternatives being a small business without ££££ to blow on advertising.
My last comment around this would be to point out:-
An advertising budget has absolutely no representation on quality of service. Smaller hosts with the same tier 1 connections with the bigger names by design have the same hosting quality of service.
Bryan G
11-28-2006, 11:09 AM
Again true but if we all ran sites using this no linking principle the net would be a closed place to be. Anyway the points been made, you like paid advertising where the biggest budgets get first place, where I obviously like the alternatives being a small business without ££££ to blow on advertising.
My last comment around this would be to point out:-
An advertising budget has absolutely no representation on quality of service. Smaller hosts with the same tier 1 connections with the bigger names by design have the same hosting quality of service.
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edit: I just deleted my post, because you are a hosting provider and I'm not going to argue with you anymore. Your opinion is biased.
Oh, and I never said anything about advertising!
BeTheHost
12-01-2006, 12:07 AM
same as the UK hosting post I just posted in
try www.hostingspeeds.com
It displays a speed tested list of hosting companies around the world. Select your country for a better list for your needs.
Yes the site does test host speeds, but don’t trust the site 100% as it does have some bugs in it that can misleading about true speeds.
See there are 11 test site and those are the most trusted… you can see them here http://www.hostingspeeds.com/index.php?act=checklocations as you can’t change anything without the owner knowing and people seeing funny reports that would be reported.
It also shows the true avg. speed of hosting as anytime somebody does any testing those 11 servers know and are used for the testing.
Nice to see the northeast #1
That site is a joke, it only lists hosts that will place their banner on the front page of the site. If a host don't put the banner up then they don't get listed. That means there are many good hosts that aren't listed.
That is 100% true, there are tons of good host out there that are not listed, some even listed that are really poor…
Agreed but they have to store a known unchangeable size of file to check your hosting speed. Just like everything online, far to many people would try to cheat. How else would you suggest you check on a level playfield?
About them requiring the banner, that has nothing to do with changing size or cheating, ect…
Its there way of advertising so you click and see other host which is fair and in the mean time they get a credits from adsense ect…
ryukenden
12-02-2006, 01:02 PM
I am hosting more than 70 websites with only one account. Some people just choose to host their sites with different companies. But I will suggest to got for hosting services which allow multipe domains hosting.
animatronico
12-15-2006, 04:24 AM
I am hosting more than 70 websites with only one account. Some people just choose to host their sites with different companies. But I will suggest to got for hosting services which allow multipe domains hosting.
The best hosting Company is Servagenet here is they website http://www.servage.net/?coupon=cust19989
Ascendancy
12-15-2006, 07:18 PM
I found this place, It's free with no pop-ups.
http://www.bravenet.com/webhosting/
114211
12-21-2006, 06:53 PM
I too recommend DreamHost, that's what I have myself. In fact, I have so much unused resources that if you guys need hosting I can let you have it for $3 a month.
the sites I host on it are aznaddiction.com/forum, gearsofwarthemovie.com, and those sites don't even scratch my cap of 120 GB bandwidth a month and 20 Gigs of space and so all of it's going unused.
I can probably help you get a domain for it and develop it a little too, it sounds fun. PM me.
liveplays.mobi
03-07-2007, 01:10 AM
Just fyi - My friends have hosting with Namesbeyond.com and they find it is doing well :)
Bryan G
03-07-2007, 02:15 AM
I too recommend DreamHost, that's what I have myself. In fact, I have so much unused resources that if you guys need hosting I can let you have it for $3 a month.
the sites I host on it are aznaddiction.com/forum, gearsofwarthemovie.com, and those sites don't even scratch my cap of 120 GB bandwidth a month and 20 Gigs of space and so all of it's going unused.
I can probably help you get a domain for it and develop it a little too, it sounds fun. PM me.
I would do some research before going with DreamHost. Just do a google search on "dreamhost complaints" or "dreamhost sucks" and you'll see that it's a scary place to host anything you find important.
Bryan G
05-23-2007, 11:42 PM
Well my company, www.owltechnology.net, offers asp running on FreeBSD if you just need classic ASP, you will need to use one of the available dbs though or upload access for use.
Your prices are too high for the little space you offer. With the prices of drives being so low now days there is no reason you can't offer a little more. $12.50 a month for only 1 gig, that's terrible.
I will give you this, the $1.50 for 10 megs is nice for someone that just want's a simple site and doesn't have much money.
But how reliable are you? This thread is supposed to have posts by users that like or dislike their host. User input, word of mouth is how you can judge.
Hosting companies aren't supposed to post, of course your going to claim your good but that don't mean squat!
Every company is going to claim they're the best.
smiley
05-24-2007, 09:16 AM
Input please:
Looking for a reseller account - whm - (web host manager) + cpanel - 50+GB -
Anyone know about:
http://www.aplus.net
or
http://www.bocacom.net
Have been looking here for comparisons:
http://www.hostreview.com/showcases/dedicated-hosting.html
Bryan G
05-24-2007, 10:45 AM
Input please:
Looking for a reseller account - whm - (web host manager) + cpanel - 50+GB -
Anyone know about:
http://www.aplus.net
or
http://www.bocacom.net
Have been looking here for comparisons:
http://www.hostreview.com/showcases/dedicated-hosting.html
If you read the previous posts you'll see what was said about Be The Host (http://bethehost.com/index.php?page=reseller). I've been with them for almost 3 years now. I switched to the reseller account about a year ago and I'm very satisfied with the service.
The 2 places you mentioned are way over priced. Hostreview.com only places adds for hosts that pay or link back because their selection is terrible and all their links have a code that records where you came from so you can't trust their opinion.
Take a look at bethehost.com (http://bethehost.com/index.php?page=reseller), I think you'll like it.
smiley
05-24-2007, 08:16 PM
If you read my post... :eek:
I need 50GB - your host only goes to 6GB space (which is fine for most).
I agree with "Redback" - service is what I pay for.
Thanks for xyz sucks tip though.
After reading the various recommendations, that helps to get a balanced view.
daed17
05-25-2007, 04:01 AM
As far as the prices OWL Technology charges, I don't know any other company that offers Darwin Streaming servers or icecast relaying for your site as an included feature for the prices we charge, that is typically an extra monthly fee. If you don't need that feature, or want to get a better price... email us and we will work with you. If you find a better price, email us the link and we will send you a modified package/price customized for your needs.
I don't know where you see we only go up to 6G space, the server with the demo account shows 57% free and that is over 60G alone. If I know what your needs are, we can do a package for you.
Some of my customers include various city of memphis depts, eagle federation, RadioRadio.us -which alone uses over 60G of storage per month, and more.
If you go to our demo account and view the installed perl modules, you will notice we offer more modules then your standard company.
We also have a 24/7 staff to guarantee that your server never fails, and if it ever dies... they are on site to repair it immediately.
And unlike several hosting companies, we do keep our software up to date. We are currently running php 5.2.2, perl 5.8.8, mysql 5.1x, cpanel is at the latest release, Darwin Streaming Server 5.x, etc.
If your intentions for your server is audio/video delivery, then I believe you will find us to be very competitive in prices... if all you want is hosting then that is a dime a dozen I agree, and you will get what you pay for. My company also teams you with a rep, that will work with you to ensure you always happy.... do the others (for the money) do that?
Also, I did go to RadioRadio's site, http://www.radioradio.us, and on thier main page you will find "...
We have made some major improvements to the site thanks to OWL Technology."
I don't think they would have done that if they weren't satisfied with our service.
Also, we do offer whm reseller services also.
And think about this fact again, several cheaper major sites have over 800 accounts per server, like I stated earlier look at their /etc/passwd file for proof, and when you multilply those accounts with the fact several are probably hosting multiple sites also... you are going to get slow performance on a box. We feel this is a bad practice, this is why you get all the complaints and bad performance. If we see a server going above its threshold, we will do everything we can to fix it... yes we will even request you get a dedicated server if you have grown to that size... anyways, the choice is yours. But I can say, I have very little turnover, I have not lost one account yet due to poor service or failure to keep them up and running. Most common reason they quit our hosting, they decided not to renew their domain and for they weren't doing as well as they hoped in the internet business.
Raged
05-25-2007, 08:23 AM
i hardly do any site hosting, but the far best ive ever seen has been hostfreeweb.info on there free service, ftp, php everything that no other site offers! the only bad thing about them for there free package =P is that you have to keep posting on there fourms... apart from that they rocked for me! =D
daed17
05-25-2007, 09:08 AM
Thought you might like to know, We have modified the pricing today. I believe it will be more inline with other sites now. We have raised the 1 Gig of space to 10 Gigs and 200 Gigs of bandwidth for only $12.50/month... Yes it still includes Darwin Streaming server, php, perl, etc. for free and as always we only monitor OUTGOING bandwidth.
I also changed the 500 Gigs of bandwidth for our best package to unlimited (you will see it when you join in your cpanel) for anyone that joins.
Anything else? www.owltechnology.net/order.php
LeeU
05-25-2007, 10:26 AM
I use Blue Host (http://www.bluehost.com) and they give 300 GB for $6.95 a month. That includes 3,000 GB of transfer a month plus several other features. I haven't had any problems with them in the year and a half I have been with them. And every time they upgrade the offer, I get the upgrade for free.
daed17
05-25-2007, 01:21 PM
That is a great deal. But I did notice that you have to pay for 24 months to get that deal. They also don't offer streaming services for that price. Outside of that we offer exactly the same, and I am betting they are using C-panel/whm also for their packages, so everytime they modify the package EVERYONE is modified also.
If you are willing to do a 24 month payment, I would gladly reduce my max package also for $12.50/month -no monitoring- unlimited bandwidth and disk space....if you need more space or bandwidth don't worry for as we see you are maxing out we will be adding more.
If you look at 1and1.com though, you will see our package by far exceeds what they offer.
smiley
05-27-2007, 07:25 AM
OK,
"They also don't offer streaming services for that price."
Who does streaming well?
daed17
05-27-2007, 11:20 AM
There are several that offer it, but it is almost always an extra fee.
I think for the price, we offer a great service.
Bryan G
05-28-2007, 01:07 PM
There are several that offer it, but it is almost always an extra fee.
I think for the price, we offer a great service.
But if someone doesn't want to stream, then your way over priced. Most people don't need streaming. I've built several sites for many companies and I have half a dozens sites of my own and I never needed any special streaming. I have video and audio on a few of the sites and they stream just fine. $9 a month for a 3 gig reseller account with WHM and cpanel http://bethehost.com/index.php?page=reseller.
Your not supposed to be here trying to sell your crap, I've reported you but the mods don't seem to care. Even still, if you look at the rules, your not supposed to advertise. What your doing is against this forum's policy. If you don't have enough integrity to follow these rules, the how could anyone trust you to do business with???
daed17
05-30-2007, 09:14 AM
Well with several of the other companies you just get hosted. They don't monitor the pcs as they should and they don't offer a 4 hour sla on hardware.
I have dealt with companies like 1and1 and when their servers went down it was a day or longer before they got everyone back up.
You are getting what you pay for, we have traditionally dealt with companies that have to be up 100%, their time is money. That is why our prices are what they are... we did go back this money and did some comparative pricing with others in our class and we are inline with them.
Call the others, see if they really offer you 2,500+ Gigs of bandwidth... ask them what happens if you go over it monthly.
I am willing to wager that if you go to the max each month, they will be pushing you to move the account.
But if you just need a place to play, no worries if the site goes down for a day or longer, then go with them... but I can tell you I have transferred over 25 accounts in the last 6 months from 1and1 alone where they had them down and it obviously wasn't the first time.
daed17
05-30-2007, 09:24 AM
If you need reliable hosting from a major company, I recommend hostway.com
But compare their $8.95/month package (which you have to pay for the full 12 months) to our $3.00/month package... you will see the savings and benefits.
Bryan G
05-30-2007, 11:21 AM
If you need reliable hosting from a major company, I recommend hostway.com
But compare their $8.95/month package (which you have to pay for the full 12 months) to our $3.00/month package... you will see the savings and benefits.
First and formost, I found this in your terms of service:
Audio, video and MPEG's are not tolerated.Any site caught on our servers that has such materials, will have thier account deleted immediately without warning.You keep bragging about "streaming", but if you can't have audio or video on your site, what can you stream? Then what good is streaming?
Here is the full paragraph:
Undesirable Content
Certain types of content are not allowed on our network. We do not host adult content of any description. Content relating to Gambling, Sportsbook sites, Usenet, Hacking, Cracking, Warez and IRC is not allowed. Software downloads may only be hosted if you are the writer and copyright owner of the software, all other software including freeware, shareware and trial software is forbidden. Audio, video and MPEG's are not tolerated.Any site caught on our servers that has such materials, will have thier account deleted immediately without warning.So you can't mention on your homepage that people can contact you on the IRC or that you like usenet. These restriction are unreasonable.
Plus,
Your $3 package is only 300 megs, that's too small.
BeTheHOst (http://bethehost.com/index.php?page=hosting) gives you 600 megs for $3.95, for $1 more you get 1.2 gigs and for another $1 you get 1.5 gigs and so on.
And don't mention your streaming again, with only 300 megs you don't have enough space to have anything to stream. Also, because you don't allow audio and video on users sites, what are you going to stream?
Also, your unlimited isn't really unlimited. From what I read, if too much bandwidth is being used you'll get cut off.
Although OWLTECHNOLOGY.net advertises "Unlimited Bandwidth" in regards to some of its services there are several limitations applied. The sole purpose of these limitations are intended of unncessary use of OWLTECHNOLOGY.net services by any such User, which restricts system availability for other such Users.
Although we advertise unlimited bandwidth, we reserve the right to inform you that you must transfer your website if an excessive amount of bandwidth is being used. If the request is not met within 5 days, we do reserve the right to remove the website from our system.
And here's some more stuff that looks bad
OWLTECHNOLOGY.net reserves the right to cancel Service for any reason without prior notice. Pre-paid service is non-refundable.
OWLTECHNOLOGY.net does not and will not perform system backups on any web sites. OWLTECHNOLOGY.net shall not be held responsible for any lost web data, web files, or any website contents, regardless of the reasoning for data loss or system causes.
And you can change your rules anytime you want
OWLTECHNOLOGY.net may modify this Agreement from time to time by placing a notice of such modification on our website, and User's continued use of the Service following notice of such modification shall be deemed to be User's acceptance of any such modification.
daed17
05-30-2007, 11:58 AM
If you noticed, you have to send a request when wanting the streaming... it is there on the front end... all we want is to know which customers are wanting to stream so that we can ensure the server isn't being abused.
Also, the clause to cancel service is there for people that abuse the service. If you are just wanting a free or cheap host so that you can spam or deny others the use of the server then I see no reason to refund your money or help you in any way.
We do a weekly backup of all sites, and we will gladly do a daily backup if requested for an additional fee. But ultimately no matter who you choose, you should always have a backup of your site.
I agree most people just need a place to put some images and text, but for those that want streaming we are here. Most companies charge extra where we do include it... all we ask is you send a request in, that is all. This also helps us in working with the customer for some customers do not realize how much bandwidth audio and video files will consume.
If sending a request in for these services is too much to keep it cheap, then go to someone else. We do all we can to ensure everyone has the best experience on our servers.
daed17
05-30-2007, 12:40 PM
Also, since you took snippets of the TOS might we also notice that others do the same...
"You are responsible for backing up Your Data on your own computer. 1&1 does not warrant or otherwise guarantee that it will back up your data or that data which has been backed up can be retrieved, and will not be responsible for any archiving or backup of Your Data. If any of Your Data is damaged, deleted, lost or corrupted in any way, or becomes otherwise unavailable due to termination or suspension of your account pursuant to this Agreement, 1&1 will have no obligation or liability to you."
"You agree not to use your IMAP account for the storage of files other than in the course of normal e-mail usage"
This is from 1and1, that is advertising 3,000 GB for under $15/month...
"Bandwidth use, including but not limited to data retrieval from your Web Site, e-mail traffic, and downloads, shall not exceed six gigabytes per month."
"1&1 may suspend performance under or terminate this Agreement, cease transmission of data associated with your domain name, permanently remove Your Data from the 1&1 Equipment, and take any other actions it deems necessary..."
So at least you know how much bandwidth you are really getting with us. And unlimited is unlimited... we don't monitor your usage. We also communicate with our customers before we take any action.
Enough said.
David Harrison
05-30-2007, 04:06 PM
I should probably have done this sooner.
I didn't.
Sue me.
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