How the hell do I get rid of this...

[realIT]

First off, hi everybody. This is my first time on the forum, sorry it is a problem post, but I really need help. Here's the situation:

I've created a nested frameset with two rows and two nested columns. The top row and the left column contain flash elements which are set to have a transparent background, while the right cloumn (my main content window) contains css styled text in a table. Each frame has a non repeating css background image, but only the main frame is set to fixed since it is the only one that scrolls.

My problem is that when I scroll the main frame, the text becomes blured. The only way I can get any normal function from it is to remove the background image, which I do not want to do. The image is only 8.5 kb, but I have even tried with a 4kb gif and the same thing occurs. Here are some screen shots (001 shows what it looks like as normal, 004 shows the frameset and highlights the background image, and 003 shows the problem. The browser is 6.0, the problem does not exist in firefox.):

[realIT]

Well, since no one wants to help, I'll just post an update:

I have recreated the page using an iframe instead of a frame set and have gotten the exact same result. The contents of the ifram blur when scrolled. I noticed however that the text that actually passes over the image itself does not blur. So, I tried an experiment. Instead of setting the fixed attribute in the css, I set it in the body tag, unfortunately I couldn't get the background repeat attribute to work, but with the fixed background set in the body tag the issue wasn't present which leads me to believe that the problem lies with parsing of the css within a frame (the page and background work fine on its own).

My solution to this then is to bodge together a background image that extends the full width of my content window. Not ideal as this will increase the size of my file, but it should work.

Thanks again for all the help.

[BonRouge]

Hey there,
Erm... a tad impatient maybe...? Just because no-one's replied doesn't mean that no-one wants to help. I think there are lots of people who actually want to help. What you need to do to help people help you is provide something for them to work with. You've given a good explanation, but people work better when they can actually see things for themselves. If you could post a link to your problem page it would be easier to see what's going on. If, for some reason, you can't post a link, then maybe some code...

I have a question - why are you trying to use a frameset or an i-frame? Is there any good reason for that?

Post a link to your page and I'll see if I can help out. If I can't, then maybe someone else will be able to...

[realIT]

Bon rouge,

Yes actually, that is exactly what it means. I appreciate the feedback, but I don't think I was being impatient at all. I don't deserve to be helped, I certainly don't expect it like its my right, but when I see that other threads that were started after mine are being responded to with good helpful advice while mine doesn't even get views (which only means that people are mousing over it only to ignore it) then yes I get a little uptight. But to be honest I don't care, that much. My problem isn't huge and I'm skilled enough to deal with it eventually. I just think its pretty unfortunate that the tone on this forum seems to be one of begrudging support. Half of the posts all say the same thing, RTFM. Typical helpdesk geek elitism. I have been a member of many forums on many topics and I'll tell you right now, people are never as standoffish as they are on sites with techsupport forums.

The problem I have is an issue with the way IE6 interprets background style classes within frames. I have pointed it out, attached screen shots, described it in detail, and even described a very ugly work around. All I wanted to know is if there is any more sophisticated solution to the problem.

[BonRouge]

I'm not being funny, but did you read the rest of what I wrote - the part about providing more information? I seriously think that some people will have had a quick look and thought... "Hmm... I don't know..." and moved on, whereas if you actually show the page - not an image but the actual page - you have a better chance of being helped. Why not do that now? I said before that I'll see what I can do if you post a link...

[LiLcRaZyFuZzY]

oh you are so wrong realIT, many people are willing to help, and as bonrouge said, some times, people dont know, and it would be much simpler if you actually post the URI.

And, why not stay calm, relax and be nice?

[ray326]

Well I was asleep during both your first posts but I think the reason for low response was time of post and being a frameset problem. Most of us don't use frames. Many don't even use iframes. Many of us will not look at screen captures because the underlying code is the problem so it's a waste of time. I expected you to respond to BonRouge's questions, in particular why you're realizing this design in such a complex manner. You've got three big divs there, no frames required.

[gizmo]

Also bear in mind that people here are from all parts of the world. If I post in the morning, most of America are in bed asleep. :)

[Tweak4]

And of course, it was a holiday (at least in the US). I, and I expect many others as well, were gone for the weekend, and didn't check the boards for several days... much less the couple hours you left between 1st and 2nd posts...

[LiLcRaZyFuZzY]

twuz holiday here too, except for those who had to work! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[CarolW]

twuz holiday here too, except for those who had to work! :mad: :mad: :mad:


Right, and all the posts in reply have been as helpful as possible. Unlike the original poster, I came here last November with absolutely no knowledge and no skills, and I have had the most wonderful help from many, many people here.. Of course, I learned so much about what would make a web site work efficiently that I actually got a working web site that's quite consistent, in just about seven months.

Not posting my URL for the moment, because now I need to learn something else; which I'll post as a separate topic (how to avoid Google and other search engines for a test page!)

So, to the original poster - people really will help, very gladly, even if you got kind of snipey there for a bit [big grin]. But they have to have the time available, and I, too, experience long delays, and other topics answered first, largely because, the opposite of you, I know practically nothing, so find it hard to ask meaningful questions. Yet people STILL really work to help me!

It's great!

Have fun.

Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:59:22