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Gerbs
05-31-2005, 07:21 PM
Hey all, I want to learn PHP, but I just don't know how to go from code to the actual page. What would I need to do this? Thanks.

P.S. And I have searched google, downloaded the windows binaries and installer, tried installing it, but still don't know what to do.
VernonK
05-31-2005, 07:43 PM
Best thing to do is download a package like AppServ (http://appservnetwork.com) or XAMPP (http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html) which will automatically install PHP, Apache, MySQL, etc. That's the easiest way to get that set up. You would then be able to access your local files from http://localhost/

Secondly, I would order the PHP Bible. That is what I learned from when I began programming in PHP. I know they have a newer PHP / MySQL Bible.
fozerator
06-01-2005, 05:59 PM
And never forget http://www.php.net/manual/en/
VernonK
06-01-2005, 06:39 PM
That's definitley key! Especially when it comes to finding a function that does what you need!
towerboy
06-01-2005, 11:28 PM
Best thing to do is download a package like AppServ (http://appservnetwork.com) or XAMPP (http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html) which will automatically install PHP, Apache, MySQL, etc. That's the easiest way to get that set up. You would then be able to access your local files from http://localhost/
I have already tried XAMPP but it would not work on Win95. AppServ doesn't seem to have a system requirements page. Does anyone know if it will run on Win95?
fozerator
06-02-2005, 03:48 AM
If you're running a Win95 system, you might want to think about your OS options for a minute... If your computer can handle it you might want to upgrade windows. If not, you should probably take a look at using Linux...

Personally I'm a linux guy. I use it for server applications and as a desktop solution, but I understand it's not necessarily the appropriate OS for everybody. Win95 (from what I understand) is no longer being updated, and you're bound to run into some security issues if you're connecting to the internet (especially if you don't have the proper firewall set up and are routing traffic to and from your PC for your server).

There's no substitute to learning PHP on a linux system. It opens up the use of all functions (there are several not available on windows), and it's a lot more straightforward to install.

I'm not posting this to start war... Windows and linux both have their upsides, and the choice is certainly up to the user.
LiLcRaZyFuZzY
06-02-2005, 06:14 AM
this site shows how to install the apache http server on windows 95 and +
http://www.thesitewizard.com/archive/apache.shtml
towerboy
06-02-2005, 08:35 AM
I use win95 as my OS of choice for my personal box (has anyone ever run it on a 1.6GHz box before? Man it's fast!). I grew up with it since I was 15. There is no Inet connection for this box either. No offense taken fozerator. :)

Thanks for the link LiLcRaZyFuZzY.
LiLcRaZyFuZzY
06-02-2005, 01:21 PM
;)
chrys
06-02-2005, 01:39 PM
Windows 95?! Oh lord. I'll just stop right there.
Shmohel
06-02-2005, 01:47 PM
Windows 95?! Oh lord. I'll just stop right there.

You probably don't want to know what my grandfather is using then.... He's got an old commodore, who knows what he's running on that, and has another computer still on Windows 3.1. And yes he actively uses these computers still.
LiLcRaZyFuZzY
06-03-2005, 07:07 AM
anyone still using morse or smoke signals to communicate?
VernonK
06-03-2005, 08:11 AM
I don't know... 3.1 might be a blast to boot up and use. It would at least give me a reason to stop complaining about how long Photoshop takes to open! ;)
towerboy
06-03-2005, 08:39 AM
anyone still using morse or smoke signals to communicate?
Accually, yes. In fact Morse code is the easiest way the communicate long distance traffic. Why? There are only two types of tones. Long and short. In weak signals and bad RF conditions, morse code always out performs voice or other digital modes.

Just a thought, but long and short tones are very similar to a "1" and "0" of binary. Hmmmm
Shmohel
06-03-2005, 08:48 AM
Accually, yes. In fact Morse code is the easiest way the communicate long distance traffic. Why? There are only two types of tones. Long and short. In weak signals and bad RF conditions, morse code always out performs voice or other digital modes.

Just a thought, but long and short tones are very similar to a "1" and "0" of binary. Hmmmm

Yea, and how many programmers still use binary. Didn't that end in the 60s.
rch10007
06-03-2005, 09:11 AM
Binary makes you invincible! I only wish there were people out there still teaching it! I guess they realized that if they kept teaching it they could never get rid of those darn hackers out there since writing in binary is the basis for any and all software programs and hardware functions. LEARN BINARY, it makes you a GOD!

BTW, lol!
towerboy
06-03-2005, 09:15 AM
Yea, and how many programmers still use binary. Didn't that end in the 60s.
I was talking about the heart of the proccessing. I know nobody programs in binary anymore. It's kind of like two people comunicating through a proccessor.... ah never mind.
LiLcRaZyFuZzY
06-03-2005, 10:41 AM
Yea, and how many programmers still use binary. Didn't that end in the 60s.

http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63983

hehe, that was a bit of fun!
Shmohel
06-03-2005, 10:46 AM
http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63983

hehe, that was a bit of fun!

glad i missed that one.
VernonK
06-03-2005, 11:51 AM
glad i missed that one.
me too! :eek:
LiLcRaZyFuZzY
06-04-2005, 04:42 AM
argh! no!