Frontpage or Dreamweaver ?

[cyacomini]

Howdy.

I'm in the process of putting together a news/fan site - I have 2 options, Frontpage 2003 or Dreamweaver MX ?

It's not going to be a technical marvel or anything, just a simple layout with good navigation and a few images...

Look, theres a poll so you don't even need to type anything ;)

[Stephen Philbin]

Well I don't use either. Not going to use them. If you have to use one or the other though, I'd say use Dreamweaver. Personally I'd rather beat myself to death with a badger's arse than use Front Page, but I'm reasonably indifferent to Dreamweaver. Still airing on the side of disliking it though.

[Sunny G]

Whoops. I hit the Frontpage button when I meant to hit the Dreamweaver!
WHAAAAAAAA..... Can I change my vote???
I'm sad to say I use Frontpage 2003. I got it free from my robotics team, so I stuck with it. Go dreamweaver dude!

[David Harrison]

Well there was no option for Notepad, so I also voted for DW.

[JPnyc]

I'm with Dave, notepad.

[cyacomini]

....to change the poll and sitck Notepad up there, but I don't think I can ?

Taking Dreamweaver for a spin just now, having realy problems with image positioning though - things just won't stay put ! Trying to put an image on top of another, that's what layers are for isn't it ?

[JPnyc]

I can, if you want me to

[cyacomini]

Go for it...and any other of the major ones out there - for some reason i can't really think of any !

[hooloovoo24]

Dreamweaver is way better than frontpage. If you're just starting out and don't really know your way around html then you shouldn't try to use notepad. It probably won't turn out too well. Take your time to learn html, css, and the other basics first, while you're using dreamweaver. That's my opinion, anyway.

[Stephen Philbin]

I use JEdit.

[Ultimater]

I'm with the majority on this one. I was using Notepad++ in Sacramento while I was using one of my relative's computers but now I'm back in Los Angeles using regular Notepad. I should really find the download link again... Between the two poll options, Dreamweaver MX just simply Pawns Frontpage 2003.

[madddidley]

UltraEdit is a good one too.


www.maddDidley.com

[Jeff Mott]

Everybody brace yourselves.... Frongpage's WYSIWYG editor is now just as good (possibly better) than Dreamweaver. :eek:

See the thread Front Page 2003 vs. Dreamweaver MX or 2004 (http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23718) for the details.

[David Harrison]

But look at the code it puts out. Here's a screeny from the Flash animation promoting FP (http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/demo.mspx).

[Jeff Mott]

charset=windows-1252If you're working on a Windows machine then this is probably correct. You have to go out of your way to *not* save a text document as windows-1252. Dreamweaver doesn't seem to realize that the declared charset is suppose to *match* what the actual charset is. Despite saying that the document is iso-8859-1, DW in fact saves your document as windows-1252. I personally always restrict myself to ASCII to avoid that mess-up, but a person working in the design mode of DW relies on that editor to do it correctly for them, which it doesn't.

bgcolor="#333333"Are you seriously going to try and tell me that Dreamweaver is free of deprecated elements and attributes?! Choosing Text>Indent in DW results in a BLOCKQUOTE element being placed around your text, which is even worse than the bgcolor attribute. At least bgcolor was once valid. This method of indenting was *never* correct. If you read my small review that I had linked to you'd see that both programs fail at varying operations, but Frontpage actually appeared to do it the proper way more often than Dreamweaver.

[LJK]

Hi -
Avoid them both like the plague, itself.

If you're just starting out and don't really know your way around html then you shouldn't try to use notepad. It probably won't turn out too well.

Um, most first attempts don't turn out too well, but hey, at least you would understand what you were doing...and not have to clear out a ton of garbage once you did get better.

TSW Web Coder 5 would have my vote,
[Notepad for touch-ups only,]
El

[the tree]

HTML-Kit (http://chami.com/html-kit/) is the one for me, if I were forced to chose between DW and FP then DW for definate.

[dera]

is this going to become like the "Dell" vs. "HP" thread?
Dreamweaver is the clear leader here. If your using Frontpage to develop your just wasting your time.

[Sunny G]

is this going to become like the "Dell" vs. "HP" thread?
My masterwork...:)

Dreamweaver is the clear leader here. If your using Frontpage to develop your just wasting your time.
I'm sad to say I use Frontpage. I've been using it a few months now. I found it easy to learn because I know how to use Microsoft office software, and Frontpage's usability is simply a reflection of the Office Software. I'm using dreamweaver at school, taking webdesign class again. This time I'm learning Dreamweaver but my teacher is starting me out with the HTML rock bottom basics like using bgcolor and tables for layout (Its killing me!).

Dreamweaver is the best... Nobody wants to support Microsoft.

[cyacomini]

Ok, well i'm pretty settled with Dreamweaver now but i'm having major hassles with images and positioning.. It all looks fine in DW, but in the preview window all the buttons are missing..

I've posted a screen grab at www.xbox360wire.co.uk/images/sitedemo.jpg if you think you can help ?

[Maebhkj]

I'm fairly new to all this. I use a product called Antenna - its superb and only costs about $40. Its by a company called Stormdance and offers a 14 day free trial.

One of its best time-saving features is Include pages - you create a page and can then include that page in any other pages.

Support is excellent as well.