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onlinetv
11-10-2005, 06:36 AM
I have to admit that I have been out of the loop for some time. I found this forum searching for press on my old sites and came up with this:
http://www.webdeveloper.com/multimedia/multimedia_web/96/mw961002.html
So, I decided to look around at the stuff here and am very impressed. I have been almost two years in the mountains hiding and in that time much has changed. CSS has taken over and everyone streams like it was as natural as breathing. Ahh, back in the old daze it was not so easy.
Anyway, I am trying to update my brains as well as the antiquated sites. It is our 10th year anniversary on the Internet and I want to have all the sites back up, polished and providing entertainment. We have worked hard on the new MusicTV and OnlineTV sites to bring them upto date. While they are far from finished, perhaps they are not as embarassing as they were some months ago when they were just sitting without attention.
Since you all are the bleeding edge, I guess I will open myself to ridicule and torture in the hopes of making my sites top guns again. In that light, I invite you to visit the MusicTV (http://www.musictv.com) and OnlineTV (http://www.onlinetv.us) sites (movietv is far from done but if you want to tear me a new hole, go for it).
Rick
[MusicTV]
The color scheme is a little bright for my taste - seems to be geared for the "tween" set.
Some strange coding going on....
<td class="menu-mid">
<div style="padding-left:223px; padding-top:105px">
<a href="http://www.musictv.com/nuke/index.php">home</a>
<a href="http://www.musictv.com/nuke/index.php?module=PostWrap&page=lyrics/index.php&height=1000&width=100%">lyrics</a>
<a href="http://www.musictv.com/nuke/index.php?name=PNphpBB2">forum</a>
<a href="http://www.musictv.com/nuke/index.php?name=pnFlashGames">games</a></div></td>
What's with the plethora of " " ?
KDLA
Green-Beast
11-10-2005, 09:18 AM
KDLA, you need to break one of those non-breaking spaces lol. The side-scroll is wicked.
The site OnlineTV looks messed up in Firefox in that there is this...
OnlineTV
Network
Live
Television
and Video
on the
Web
All over the place, twice next to each entry, etc. Too much to look at so I stopped with that.
Mike
onlinetv
11-10-2005, 03:40 PM
I think the spaces are because the designer is not using css properly to drop the menu items over the graphics. I am beating the designer as we type. Thank you.
The "onlinetv network" thing is the alt tags in spacer gifs. A backlash from the programmers for having to get every graphic with an alt tag to get through the html verification. I take it this is not working? What would you show on firefox with alt="spacer.gif" instead? I will change them to something less oppressive, but just as repetitive I think. Why do you display the alt tags anyway? I am ready to work but what to do?
Why is firefox important? Can you explain why I should care? Please take no offence, I just do not know what it is being out of the loop for a while.
Thanks for the feedback guys.
baseiber
11-10-2005, 03:58 PM
for MusicTV there are two many colors and too many pictures. It's hard to look at and it takes awhile to load. The shadow image center column right side does not extend all the way down. There's an aweful lot of content on the page. Why do you have a login form in two spots?
Green-Beast
11-10-2005, 04:22 PM
I think the spaces are because the designer is not using css properly to drop the menu items over the graphics. I am beating the designer as we type. Thank you.
The "onlinetv network" thing is the alt tags in spacer gifs. A backlash from the programmers for having to get every graphic with an alt tag to get through the html verification. I take it this is not working? What would you show on firefox with alt="spacer.gif" instead? I will change them to something less oppressive, but just as repetitive I think. Why do you display the alt tags anyway? I am ready to work but what to do?
Why is firefox important? Can you explain why I should care? Please take no offence, I just do not know what it is being out of the loop for a while.
Thanks for the feedback guys.
Firefox isn't important at all, assuming you are willing to forgo supporting the second most common web browser out there. No offense taken, not by me, but if a Firefox user goes to your site they make tell it differently. As a web developer you should go to great lengths to ensure your site's visitors all have a decent experience. In fact I'd go so far as to say it's a responsibility.
Regarding spacer gifs, well, first it's a bad practice to use them, but if you must, supply the alt with a null value. This satisfies validation and uses some common sense. Example: alt="". Simple as that. Alt text is used to describe an image if the image is missing, (and if it's a long description you must use that), but for spacer gifs, leave the alt attribute empty as the visitor with images off or unsupported doesn't really need to know they missed a spacer gif.
I hope this clears things up a bit.
Mike
Hi -
IMHO, F-fox is crucial because it adhers to the web standards better - in other words, it won't forgive your coding errors.
IE tends to "fix" code - rendering it incorrectly and not giving you an accurate representation of what you've done. [But others WILL see the mess! ;-)]
So, my mantra #6 is:
Code for Firefox; Tweak for IE
Good luck,
El
onlinetv
11-11-2005, 03:29 AM
Thanks loads you guys. OK, give me a week and let me work on that stuff. I will come back for more abuse. I guess I have to find firefox and see how that looks. My log files do not show such an animal as this, what does a log entry for this browser looklike?
Once again, thanks for the time and effort. I take it all to heart and appreciate it greatly. If you like the band Keane from England I am going to let loose a great concert they did for me back in 1999 for free. You are invited, watch the home pages for the links on Sat morning. Boy is Virgin going to be pissed to find out I own the rights to 4 of their early concerts. As a producer I can return your favours with things I produced as a thanks, as I doubt my web design skills will ever be as good as those you all posess it is the only way I have to express my gratitude.
Thanks!
onlinetv
11-12-2005, 02:37 PM
for MusicTV there are two many colors and too many pictures. It's hard to look at and it takes awhile to load. The shadow image center column right side does not extend all the way down. There's an aweful lot of content on the page. Why do you have a login form in two spots?
Well taken mate. I think we got that shadow going all the way now. But we cant find the two login spots. Can you tell me what page and browser etc so I can get that?