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Hikari_07
11-21-2005, 06:37 PM
Ok, so I know how to change the colors on the scroll bars, but is there any way to make one or all of the colors transparent?
MstrBob
11-21-2005, 07:26 PM
Ok, so I know how to change the colors on the scroll bars, but is there any way to make one or all of the colors transparent?

This is why I'm glad I don't use IE (Internet Explorer). That is the only browser screwy enough to let websites manipulate the GUI and change the scrollbar colors.

It might be, I don't know since I've never tried. My best advice to you would be to drop the colored scrollbars. Besides being annoying, and only available in IE anyway, I've never seen a professional web designer use them. There's a reason for that.
Hikari_07
11-21-2005, 09:27 PM
Hmm, so much for making them blend into my xanga more...but then again even though it's massively popular with the layout makers for the html handicapped, it doesn't necessarily make it ok. Sweet, that'll cut down some more on my code.
Siddan
11-21-2005, 10:20 PM
... so they make a javascript scroll-bar instead to match the color of the content.

I canīt see the problem using different colors on the scrollbar as long as it is done properly, as anything else in the world
Kravvitz
11-22-2005, 01:50 AM
What happens if the user doesn't have JavaScript enabled?

JavaScript scrollbars don't usually work very well.
Siddan
11-22-2005, 10:30 PM
thatīs what I am saying,,, that is why there is no harm to color the scrollbars
Kravvitz
11-23-2005, 12:33 AM
Some people who are less technically inclined might be confused if the scrollbar suddenly looks different. Other people who suffer from some form of color-blindness might also have trouble.

I've used the scrollbar color properties before, but most of the sites that I used it on were gaming sites, where accessibility is not a high priority.
Mr Initial Man
11-23-2005, 12:54 PM
This is why I'm glad I don't use IE (Internet Explorer). That is the only browser screwy enough to let websites manipulate the GUI and change the scrollbar colors. ... only available in IE anyway ...

That's a fallacy, actually. Opera also allows it, though you can turn it off. *Hugs Opera*
MstrBob
11-23-2005, 03:47 PM
That's a fallacy, actually. Opera also allows it, though you can turn it off. *Hugs Opera*

Ah, I'd forgotten about that. But it's merely an attempt to capture the IE crowd. Gecko-based browsers and KHTML browsers don't, to my knowledge, support this.

Now yes, you technically could use Javascirpt to do this and have it accessibly degrade to a normal scrollbar without Javascript. But it's really just not, in my opinion, good design. The most important aspect is User Interface design is familiarity. If a scrollbar always looks like X everywhere in every app I use, and suddenly you have a scrollbar that looks like Y, how do I know that at first? As much as visual designers may hate it, it is good usability wise. Part of being a web designer is combining visuals, usability, and technology.
Siddan
11-23-2005, 04:13 PM
ok... I dont meant like changing any graphical concepts turning X to Y... I am talking about colors, colors which match the site. Kravvitz mentioned about color-blindness. But if they are colorblind and the scrollbar matches the color that are on the site, then the colorblinded man wouldnīt see any difference, except that those are not the original color,,, just colors that happens to match the site.