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swstos
04-29-2003, 05:08 PM
Hi...

I am looking for a web development tool in order to create web pages.

I dont want to use notepad because it is time consuming.

I dont want to use frontpage because it is not good at all...

Can anyone give me any advice on what to use...?

PeOfEo
04-29-2003, 05:15 PM
I like notepad personally because you can just save it as an html file then open it in ie. Other good editors are coffee cup's html editor (its freeware for like 80 days) and dreamweaver. I would try out the coffee cup because if you want a legal version of dreamweaver it has a hefty price tag. I actually made my own html editor a while back, mainly with vb but my friend did a little c++ for it. It sucks but, heck i use it from time to time.

khalidali63
04-29-2003, 06:21 PM
I am hooked on to using Homesite....I think its next best thing after notepad..

Nedals
04-29-2003, 06:43 PM
I'll second khalidali63's vote for Homesite. Notepad is the next best thing after Homesite. :)

web-eagle
04-29-2003, 06:48 PM
Oh, boy, here we go again <big grin>
I could tell you, but then I’d have to…ah, you know…
There is an interesting discussion already in play at http://forums.webdeveloper.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7654
Just feel free to jump on in anywhere. :p

web-eagle
04-29-2003, 06:56 PM
PeOfEo
I actually made my own html editor a while back, mainly with vb but my friend did a little c++ for it. It sucks but, heck i use it from time to time.

I’ve been thinking about doing something similar. I have MS Word, and I don’t see any reason I couldn’t set up a list of macros with hotkeys to insert various tags. That basically all HotDog does, and I used it for quite a while. I guess I just need to get up off my lazy a…….:eek:

PeOfEo
04-29-2003, 07:54 PM
mine is full fledged, like you can open a file save a file and preview it and it has a data base for scripts, but it does not have intellitext to catch errors and it is basic. I will come back to it this summer when I have free time and use a rich text box and do a lot of string work and devise a system to catch the errors, then it will be decent. I would let you check out mine but it is just so embarrasing how basic it is lol, I can make something sooo much better then what I have now, But the site wizard I made is pretty cool, but the layout picker uses tables and that isnt cool, I would have to redo that to css.

pyro
04-29-2003, 08:31 PM
A question for Khalid or Nedals... Does Homesite have a javascript debugger, or at very least syntax highlighting? I currently use dreamweaver, as I have studio mx, but was thinking about getting Homesite... Talk me into it... ;)

khaki
04-29-2003, 10:55 PM
we-beagle ;) wrote: Oh, boy, here we go again <big grin>
I could tell you, but then I’d have to…ah, you know…
There is an interesting discussion already in play at http://forums.webdeveloper.com/show...=&threadid=7654
Just feel free to jump on in anywhere.Ah-HA!!!
What...?.... no one thought that I'd find this thread? :eek:

okay... here's the kicker:

swstos says,
"I am looking for a web development tool in order to create web pages".

...not a web design WYSIWYG crutch!!!

A great tool (although probably very co$tly - and maybe overkill for some people) is Visual InterDev. It has intuitive help, a great code-view toolbox (a shortcut code-writer which is NOT bloated and is everything that DW is... but better) and it has Design view (yuk!), Code view, and View view modes (but not the ridiculous kind that DW has... where it forces a split screen).

After that... I'd suggest... gulp...
DREAMWEAVER!!!!!!!!!!!! (as everyone faints. lol). It's proven to be a decent development tool (just stay away from the WYSIWYG... even though it is better than most).
Plus it validates your code pretty well (although it doesn't know sh*t about how ASP fits into the page and will throw yellow errors on most html/asp integrated lines).

Then comes.... my reliable workhorse ...
NOTEPAD!
It's impossible to make a bad page in Notepad... unless the deleloper him/herself is a bad scripter.

And just one point about Notepad being "too time consuming":
Just create little templates for yourself, and do some quick copy/pastes. It's just too easy.

well... as a developer :) (not a designer :( ) that is MY opinion.
I hope that helps you.

;) k

Nedals
04-30-2003, 01:04 AM
Does Homesite have a javascript debugger, or at very least syntax highlighting
No on the debugger; Yes on the syntax highlighting
It does have a 'limited' validator.

Also allows you to setup different syntax highlighting for javascipt, php, asp, coldfusion, Perl, and, I think, a couple more.

I started with notepad as did most of us in days of yor!, but once I found Homesite, I never looked back. (or forward, come to think of it :) )

web-eagle
04-30-2003, 02:29 AM
khaki
Ah-HA!!!
What...?.... no one thought that I'd find this thread?

BUSTED!!!


khaki
swstos says,
"I am looking for a web development tool in order to create web pages".
...not a web design WYSIWYG crutch!!!

Ah, but he said,
"I am looking for a web development tool in order to create web pages".
…not a web site…ah…never mind…:rolleyes:

psst, hey swstos, it’s really ok to use DreamWeaver, just don’t tell anybody. If they can spend that much time looking at your source, they’ve got too much time!:D

pyro
04-30-2003, 07:00 AM
Thanks Nedals. I downloaded the demo last night, and I'll play around with it a bit. From what I saw so far, DW has better syntax highlighting/support for PHP, which is a must in my book. How do you set up the different syntax highlighting?

Nedals
04-30-2003, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by pyro
...How do you set up the different syntax highlighting?

On Homesite 4.5.1, go to
Options :: settings :: editor :: color coding :: edit scheme

(I should think about upgrading :) )

DaveSW
04-30-2003, 12:42 PM
This is quite good as a more advanced version of notepad. well, that's what it's supposed to be anyways...

http://www.notetab.com/

dave