Problems Installing Linux SUSE

[Dark Dragon]

I have problems...and one of them entails installation issues of the SUSE Operating system.

We followed the instructions and put the CD in and rebooted the computer..so far it was okay..then we got a dialogue box saying "Cool Computer But..you are about to install a 32 Bit system on a 64 Bit computer."

So we hit "OK" and selected first the regular instalation..it loaded some Kernal stuff then the screen went dark...for a uncomfortably long time..so reboot we did and selected the "ACPI Disabled" thing..same thing...we tried all the options and we are no closer to salvation than we were before we got the software.

I had thought this could be installed on the 64 Bit computer..or so it seemed reading the manual.

To be honest I am not impressed at all with this.

Does anyone have an idea what we did wrong? It would be greatly appreciated.

[Dark Dragon]

Well..it looks like no one else knows either. That's ok.

After doing research for a couple of hours and getting nowhere fast I realized that the 5 CD's contain only the 32 Bit Installation.

This means that either I have to get a DVD Drive just to install SUSE or this thing goes back.

Here I foolishly thought this was going to be a breeze..I did much research and nowhere did I read anything about the CD'S containing just the 32 Bit Installation....what a rip-off!

[NogDog]

Well..it looks like no one else knows either. That's ok.
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Well, this is the "web developer" forum, not the "Linux experts" forum. :)

[Dark Dragon]

Funny. :rolleyes:

However it appears that many are familiar with Linux..which is why I asked..considering others seemed to know what I was referring to when I asked about the KDE or GNOME Desktop.

ALSO...This IS the Computer Issues Forum is it not???? :D

At any rate I am not sure what I will do..maybe I will get a DVD Drive and maybe I will just return the SUSE and reinstall the older version of XP on my fathers computer....we spent alot on these computers already..I am just not eager to fork over more money.

[NogDog]

I was just trying to suggest that some place like www.linuxforums.org or www.linuxquestions.org is a lot more likely to have someone view your question that has had the same experience and actually knows the answers you need.

[PeOfEo]

Well..it looks like no one else knows either. That's ok.

After doing research for a couple of hours and getting nowhere fast I realized that the 5 CD's contain only the 32 Bit Installation.

This means that either I have to get a DVD Drive just to install SUSE or this thing goes back.

Here I foolishly thought this was going to be a breeze..I did much research and nowhere did I read anything about the CD'S containing just the 32 Bit Installation....what a rip-off!
AFAIK suse doesn't have a 64bit version. Only 32. But I installed it on my amd64 turion laptop and it welll... it installed fine but linux doesn't usually agree with laptops and I still have bugs. I'm about to drop ubuntu on it.

[Dark Dragon]

Actually the SUSE I have has the 64 bit on the DVD. It is even stated on the DVD surface label.

At any rate I am returning the SUSE..I decided I have spent enough money on the computers....I will not get a DVD just to install SUSE. Even the manual is a pain to read.

I realize most Linux Operating Systems are more for developers and programmers but this....is not quite what I had in mind.

Oh well...I tried.

Thank You

[PeOfEo]

You should try Ubuntu... its very very friendly. I personally think Synaptic packet manager is better than Yast. Get it with the Gnome and you have a nice everyday system (gnome is the default). But if you need to develop synaptic can get you any ide you need.

[Dark Dragon]

Well..maybe I will someday..but right now I am done spending money on the computers.

Yes..I could download Ubuntu but I have Dial-Up so I am not too overly eager to tie up my phone lines to download it.

But I think I will research Ubuntu..sounds interesting.

Thanks PeOfEo

[David Harrison]

Ubuntu is free, check it out:
https://shipit.ubuntu.com/

[Dark Dragon]

Thanks for the link.

I read what they had to say about Ubunto and I admit it sounds very appealing...maybe I will try it someday.

Maybe because of my experience with SUSE I remain apprehensive. Ubunto is clamed to be fast and easy to install..yet SUSE claimed that you'd be up and running in little more than a half hour..(cough-cough).

Maybe I will test it out on my fathers computer first. ;)

[David Harrison]

I've used both SUSE and Ubuntu, they are both quick and easy to install, though SUSE gives you more eye candy during the install process.

[PeOfEo]

Yeah Ubuntu is a text based install, it is a pretty install, I must say that. But I like Ubuntu more, also because ubuntu liked my sound card :). With SuSE I had to go on a driver hunt, but it worked right on install with Ubuntu. Ubuntu just seems to support hardware better, I always hear about it playing nicer with laptops than SuSE. I installed SuSE on my laptop and its not stable at all. I need to try Ubuntu on it, and if that fails, in the summer when I have time compile Gentoo for it.

[LiLcRaZyFuZzY]

Thanks for the link.

I read what they had to say about Ubunto and I admit it sounds very appealing...maybe I will try it someday.

Maybe because of my experience with SUSE I remain apprehensive. Ubunto is clamed to be fast and easy to install..yet SUSE claimed that you'd be up and running in little more than a half hour..(cough-cough).

Maybe I will test it out on my fathers computer first. ;)
the ubuntu CD contains a "live version" which allows you to test the system without installing it

[PeOfEo]

the ubuntu CD contains a "live version" which allows you to test the system without installing it
Mine didn't, but then again I knew I wanted to install ubuntu and I didn't fiddle with downloading any of that. Knoppix is my live linux!

[Dark Dragon]

I do have to say I am pleased there are other companies out there who are willing to produce alternate Operating Systems other than MS...the challenge was trying to find one that was appropriate for the home user.

Mandrake sounded good too as did Red Hat but there are so many out there it made my head spin. I guess I am just not part of the "higly intelligent" league and much of the terminolgy used in the Linux SUSE manuals left me dizzy. I am not a programmer or a developer..just an average joe.

But I do appreciate that the manual is pretty thorough and tells you what to adjust and tweak...Windows Manuals don't do that....I suppose I just need to use better discernment before buying another OS....SUSE is going back unfortunately.

Ubunto sounds even better. :D

[LiLcRaZyFuZzY]

Operating Systems other than MS
MS is not an OS! :p hehe

and, yes, it is Ubuntu not Ubunto

[David Harrison]

You might also want to give Kubuntu a try, it's Ubuntu with the KDE GUI. KDE looks similar to Windows, but you can tweak the hell out of it and make it look however you want.

I've not had much experience with Gnome, but from what I've seen it looks good, though I've never taken the time to tweak it much.

[LiLcRaZyFuZzY]

heard great things about Kubuntu!

[PeOfEo]

Kubuntu... Ubuntu... same thing. I'm a fan of Gnome though, I mean KDE and Gnome will but do whatever you want them to do but from what Ive seen Gnome is the more user friendly, casual use environment and KDE is the one loaded up with all of the junk by default more geared for development. But picking up an environment isnt like selling your soul... or picking up a cell phone plan, its not a big deal to switch.

[Dark Dragon]

Well..for now I will stick with windows.

I have many programs I like using that work mostly on windows like Photoshop (Yes, I tried Gimp but didn't like it) DreamWeaver, HTML-Kit, Fireworks, Flash....things like that.

I am just not too eager to dump all that and spend more money trying to find programs that I want instead of relying on Linux to provide them in their OS.

Maybe I am hard-headed or something.

Maybe I'll just by an IMac. :rolleyes:

[PeOfEo]

If you buy a mac I will slauder you *. I will come to your house, kick your dog, and end you. Grrr.


Im not a fan of macs :P



* This is not a real death threat, just a joke. This is not intended to be a serious threat on another forum member's life.

[Dark Dragon]

Hey, hey, hey..don't make me charbroil you "pinky"!

Don't be messin' wit' da dragon now! ;)

[Dark Dragon]

But seriously..I do understand what you mean.

Macs aren't too bad but they suck when it comes to memory management..maybe things have changed.....actually..what really cheesed me off in college was when I downloaded something..like a animation or a sound file..the Mac OS downloads it automatically to the desktop....really hated that.

However I did kind of like being able to plug in my mouse into the USB ports on the keyboard..as well as other things....didn't like the one button mouse for the G4 Macs though.....

How come you dislike Macs so much?

[David Harrison]

Phew, good thing you added that footnote Nick, I almost banned you. :rolleyes:

[PeOfEo]

But seriously..I do understand what you mean.

How come you dislike Macs so much?
Lack of adoption of Industry wide standards... to use one is to be a masochist because it makes upgrading, customization, and just buying one a pain.

Phew, good thing you added that footnote Nick, I almost banned you. :rolleyes:
Just needed to cover my tracks... can never be to careful.

[Dark Dragon]

Hmm...I nevr really thought about that aspect. I was even considering assembling one..but I suppose only certain Motherboards can handle the Mac OS?

I just don't know.

[PeOfEo]

Uh, I don't know about that, Im fairly certain some forms of unix can be dropped on a mac, and I've heard of linux on macs before. Linux runs on pretty much everything.

[David Harrison]

Heh, oops (http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Administrator_root_password_readable_in_cleartext_on_Ubuntu_Breezy).

[LiLcRaZyFuZzY]

hahaha!

[Neczy]

I'm willing to pay more for a mac due to the amazing integration between the hardware/software, especially in the operating system. People that use macs understand that they won't be able to replace some parts, or upgrade some other parts, but instead like to focus on just using the computer, and using it until it dies (which in my experience takes quite a bit of effort/time). I'm not saying everyone should switch, but if you are doing major graphical work, or like the operating system I'd get one. Some people can't because of the lack of support for some programs but if that isn't a problem, then why not get a mac? Granted, if you love making computers and upgrading parts whenever a mac isn't for you, but if it doesn't matter much then macs are usually a good choice. Seriously.

[LiLcRaZyFuZzY]

I'll get one when i'm rich..or die tryin'
Just for the sake of having one, i love them!

[PeOfEo]

Heh, oops (http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Administrator_root_password_readable_in_cleartext_on_Ubuntu_Breezy). Well... dapper isn't even an official release yet... that's is all still beta. Gotta expect bugs and holes using beta software.

[PeOfEo]

I'm willing to pay more for a mac due to the amazing integration between the hardware/software, especially in the operating system. People that use macs understand that they won't be able to replace some parts, or upgrade some other parts, but instead like to focus on just using the computer, and using it until it dies (which in my experience takes quite a bit of effort/time). I'm not saying everyone should switch, but if you are doing major graphical work, or like the operating system I'd get one. Some people can't because of the lack of support for some programs but if that isn't a problem, then why not get a mac? Granted, if you love making computers and upgrading parts whenever a mac isn't for you, but if it doesn't matter much then macs are usually a good choice. Seriously.
I plan to get my hardware & software harmony by compiling gentoo this summer.